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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Douchehound of the day: Brevity is no longer the soul of wit by kateharding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/18/douchehound-of-the-day-brevity-is-no-longer-the-soul-of-wit/#comment-63581</link>
		<dc:creator>kateharding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ripley may be a “troll” from a SP standpoint, but she isn’t from a libertarian, fat liberation standpoint..&lt;/i&gt;

Then she should probably post on libertarian blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ripley may be a “troll” from a SP standpoint, but she isn’t from a libertarian, fat liberation standpoint..</i></p>
<p>Then she should probably post on libertarian blogs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Those lazy kids and their hours of exercise by lim</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/16/those-lazy-kids-and-their-hours-of-exercise/#comment-63572</link>
		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our school day was scheduled off-rush hour, because it reduces road accidents and transport congestion to have the kids travelling in lower-traffic times. And then quite apart from the pedestrians, we didn't have schoolbuses, we just used normal buses, and they would be packed at four thirty (university students) and five thirty (factory and office workers), so in general school ended at around three thirty. This is in Europe, however. I don't know how the logistics work in the US. My schools (various inner city comprehensives) coordinated their schedules with neighbouring institutions so the letting-out was staggered (eg, the girls' school let out twenty minutes before the boys' school; the poor school let out after the posh school). This was also to reduce road, er... well, fights basically.

I'm a kinetic learner. I think with my hands. Even when I'm sitting down and reading I unconsciously act out the text. These jokes about jumping forward and backwards for a test would have been GREAT for me, I could dance it out. Win! But I still hated PE, because we never learnt anything and it was no fun so I just never went.

My mum was a PE teacher back when it was still called games, and at home that's what did, played GAMES, and that was fun and taught me all sorts of mental (strategy, teamwork) and physical discipline. We always did practical or fun things: lifesavers, orienteering, sailing (island dweller). S'more practical and inclusive, too: you can play hotstove in a wheelchair, you can go rambling if you're blind, you can swim with mixed ages...

I've wandered. Uh. Oh, point being, PE clearly isn't about learning physical skills or fostering ability, it's about teaching you to surrender control of your body to authority. If it were it would be teaching practical, environment-focused things like the aforementioned orienteering, car-dodging for city kids, lifesavers for coastal kids, self-defense...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our school day was scheduled off-rush hour, because it reduces road accidents and transport congestion to have the kids travelling in lower-traffic times. And then quite apart from the pedestrians, we didn&#8217;t have schoolbuses, we just used normal buses, and they would be packed at four thirty (university students) and five thirty (factory and office workers), so in general school ended at around three thirty. This is in Europe, however. I don&#8217;t know how the logistics work in the US. My schools (various inner city comprehensives) coordinated their schedules with neighbouring institutions so the letting-out was staggered (eg, the girls&#8217; school let out twenty minutes before the boys&#8217; school; the poor school let out after the posh school). This was also to reduce road, er&#8230; well, fights basically.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a kinetic learner. I think with my hands. Even when I&#8217;m sitting down and reading I unconsciously act out the text. These jokes about jumping forward and backwards for a test would have been GREAT for me, I could dance it out. Win! But I still hated PE, because we never learnt anything and it was no fun so I just never went.</p>
<p>My mum was a PE teacher back when it was still called games, and at home that&#8217;s what did, played GAMES, and that was fun and taught me all sorts of mental (strategy, teamwork) and physical discipline. We always did practical or fun things: lifesavers, orienteering, sailing (island dweller). S&#8217;more practical and inclusive, too: you can play hotstove in a wheelchair, you can go rambling if you&#8217;re blind, you can swim with mixed ages&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve wandered. Uh. Oh, point being, PE clearly isn&#8217;t about learning physical skills or fostering ability, it&#8217;s about teaching you to surrender control of your body to authority. If it were it would be teaching practical, environment-focused things like the aforementioned orienteering, car-dodging for city kids, lifesavers for coastal kids, self-defense&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Blogger LilahCello: Yes, I&#8217;ve got facial hair by Tanya</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/16/guest-blogger-lilahcello-yes-ive-got-facial-hair/#comment-63569</link>
		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bald Soprano I could hug you.  I thought I was the only person in the world that had grown pubic hair by the time I was 7.  Periods and underarm hair came at 13, but the pubic hair for some reason came early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bald Soprano I could hug you.  I thought I was the only person in the world that had grown pubic hair by the time I was 7.  Periods and underarm hair came at 13, but the pubic hair for some reason came early.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Douchehound of the day: Brevity is no longer the soul of wit by AnnieMcPhee</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/18/douchehound-of-the-day-brevity-is-no-longer-the-soul-of-wit/#comment-63563</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieMcPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That may be, fillyjonk - I don't know from whence your trolls have been coming.  Ripley may be a "troll" from a SP standpoint, but she isn't from a libertarian, fat liberation standpoint..   My suspicion is something just pissed her off greatly.  I certainly thought "man" originally, but no.  Not so in this case.   She's just a pissed off dyke with a low tolerance level for certain things.  

And now I shall go enjoy some Funny Games US, which is a horrific movie, remade shot for shot from a superior horrific movie.  I do think it was better in the original Austrian.  They were scarier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be, fillyjonk - I don&#8217;t know from whence your trolls have been coming.  Ripley may be a &#8220;troll&#8221; from a SP standpoint, but she isn&#8217;t from a libertarian, fat liberation standpoint..   My suspicion is something just pissed her off greatly.  I certainly thought &#8220;man&#8221; originally, but no.  Not so in this case.   She&#8217;s just a pissed off dyke with a low tolerance level for certain things.  </p>
<p>And now I shall go enjoy some Funny Games US, which is a horrific movie, remade shot for shot from a superior horrific movie.  I do think it was better in the original Austrian.  They were scarier.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Douchehound of the day: Brevity is no longer the soul of wit by wellroundedtype2</title>
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		<dc:creator>wellroundedtype2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An All-Dr. Horrible edition mad-lib:
Just as I thought you humorless, Stalinist hags were collecting signatures for the Caring Hands Homeless Shelter building repurposement, you were really using your ipod to abscond with the Wonderflonium so you could join the Evil League of Evil. So then I scratched my spork-imbeded leg, and pulled my head out of my penis and exclaimed, "Evil Lurks Everywhere!" Put my hammer in my dimple and call me a thouroughbred of sin's third-cousin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An All-Dr. Horrible edition mad-lib:<br />
Just as I thought you humorless, Stalinist hags were collecting signatures for the Caring Hands Homeless Shelter building repurposement, you were really using your ipod to abscond with the Wonderflonium so you could join the Evil League of Evil. So then I scratched my spork-imbeded leg, and pulled my head out of my penis and exclaimed, &#8220;Evil Lurks Everywhere!&#8221; Put my hammer in my dimple and call me a thouroughbred of sin&#8217;s third-cousin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Douchehound of the day: Brevity is no longer the soul of wit by Bree</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/18/douchehound-of-the-day-brevity-is-no-longer-the-soul-of-wit/#comment-63559</link>
		<dc:creator>Bree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't do this, so here it goes:

“Just as I thought you humorless, Stalinist hags were getting up to make your fifth trip to the buffet, it turned out you were really telling me to go to hell because you refuse to be objectified so I can't wack off to pictures of you on the Internet in my grandma's basement. So then I scratched my butt and pulled my head out of my ear and exclaimed "Well surprise me cunt!"   Put my  Viagra (concrete noun) in my tampon collection and call me a baboon's mother."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t do this, so here it goes:</p>
<p>“Just as I thought you humorless, Stalinist hags were getting up to make your fifth trip to the buffet, it turned out you were really telling me to go to hell because you refuse to be objectified so I can&#8217;t wack off to pictures of you on the Internet in my grandma&#8217;s basement. So then I scratched my butt and pulled my head out of my ear and exclaimed &#8220;Well surprise me cunt!&#8221;   Put my  Viagra (concrete noun) in my tampon collection and call me a baboon&#8217;s mother.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Douchehound of the day: Brevity is no longer the soul of wit by fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/18/douchehound-of-the-day-brevity-is-no-longer-the-soul-of-wit/#comment-63558</link>
		<dc:creator>fillyjonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not all people who get hostile are “he”s of course.&lt;/i&gt;

Most people coming from the places our trolls have come from lately are men.  People who call women "humorless hags" are misogynists, and many misogynists are men.  It was a reasonable assumption, Sarah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not all people who get hostile are “he”s of course.</i></p>
<p>Most people coming from the places our trolls have come from lately are men.  People who call women &#8220;humorless hags&#8221; are misogynists, and many misogynists are men.  It was a reasonable assumption, Sarah.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Blogger LilahCello: Yes, I&#8217;ve got facial hair by amandaw</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/16/guest-blogger-lilahcello-yes-ive-got-facial-hair/#comment-63557</link>
		<dc:creator>amandaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, leaving the issue of hair aside.

You are not a wimp, you are not weak, you are not a baby, because you would prefer to avoid pain.

This is as a person with a disabling chronic pain condition.

Pain is not a bad thing, it is not a good thing, it does not prove a person's strength or weakness, their worth or worthlessness, their bravery or cowardliness.

It's just pain. It hurts. Most people don't like that feeling. That's that.

Don't beat yourself up because you don't like excessive pain. It's just how you roll. If you keep beating yourself like that, the dents are gonna make it a pretty bumpy roll. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, leaving the issue of hair aside.</p>
<p>You are not a wimp, you are not weak, you are not a baby, because you would prefer to avoid pain.</p>
<p>This is as a person with a disabling chronic pain condition.</p>
<p>Pain is not a bad thing, it is not a good thing, it does not prove a person&#8217;s strength or weakness, their worth or worthlessness, their bravery or cowardliness.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just pain. It hurts. Most people don&#8217;t like that feeling. That&#8217;s that.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t beat yourself up because you don&#8217;t like excessive pain. It&#8217;s just how you roll. If you keep beating yourself like that, the dents are gonna make it a pretty bumpy roll. :p</p>
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		<title>Comment on Douchehound of the day: Brevity is no longer the soul of wit by Genevieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Genevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the madlib with my sisters.  One of them is obsessed with &lt;i&gt;Dr. Who&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Torchwood&lt;/i&gt;.

"Just as I thought you humorless, Stalinist hags &lt;i&gt;were jumping&lt;/i&gt;, it turned out you were really just &lt;i&gt;smiling&lt;/i&gt;. So then I scratched my &lt;i&gt;leg&lt;/i&gt; and pulled my head out of my &lt;i&gt;foot&lt;/i&gt; and exclaimed ‘Well, &lt;i&gt;yay&lt;/i&gt;! Put my &lt;i&gt;balloon&lt;/i&gt;  in my &lt;i&gt;John Barrowman&lt;/i&gt; and call me a &lt;i&gt;Ilizard’s  aunt&lt;/i&gt;.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the madlib with my sisters.  One of them is obsessed with <i>Dr. Who</i> and <i>Torchwood</i>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just as I thought you humorless, Stalinist hags <i>were jumping</i>, it turned out you were really just <i>smiling</i>. So then I scratched my <i>leg</i> and pulled my head out of my <i>foot</i> and exclaimed ‘Well, <i>yay</i>! Put my <i>balloon</i>  in my <i>John Barrowman</i> and call me a <i>Ilizard’s  aunt</i>.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Letter to the Editor by celeloriel</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/18/letter-to-the-editor/#comment-63554</link>
		<dc:creator>celeloriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 02:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Naamah_Darling
I felt the Call of Cthulhu SAN reference to be UTTERLY appropriate.  Well said.</description>
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I felt the Call of Cthulhu SAN reference to be UTTERLY appropriate.  Well said.</p>
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