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		<title>By: Brie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/12/24/holiday-meal-planning-shapely-prose-style/#comment-125779</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 05:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gotta love how the holidays bring out the neuroses in even the best of us. As for gravy, the best way I&#039;ve found is to heat your broth in a pan, and in a separate bowl, stir a 2-3 tablespoons of flour into half a cup of water until it&#039;s dissolved, add it to your broth, and stir the mixture while heating (it just don&#039;t boil it!) until it&#039;s thick enough for your liking. I love a good roux, but I&#039;d rather not bother with one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love how the holidays bring out the neuroses in even the best of us. As for gravy, the best way I&#8217;ve found is to heat your broth in a pan, and in a separate bowl, stir a 2-3 tablespoons of flour into half a cup of water until it&#8217;s dissolved, add it to your broth, and stir the mixture while heating (it just don&#8217;t boil it!) until it&#8217;s thick enough for your liking. I love a good roux, but I&#8217;d rather not bother with one.</p>
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		<title>By: bronislawa blumschaefter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bronislawa blumschaefter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why brine the turkey when you can just rub it all over with half a fresh orange? I schmear the orange half all over the turkey skin, then sprinkle poultry seasoning, tarragon, onion powder (anything that smells good, basically) onto the orange half, and stuff it inside the turkey cavity. The orange juice will help the skin brown w/out making it greasy, and the herby orange will help keep it moist without imparting little green bits into your gravy. Roast the turkey in a covered roaster, with an inch or water in the bottom, at a really high heat (400 F) for the first hour. After the first hour, remove the cover, turn the heat down to 375, and baste every 15 minutes till it&#039;s done. If it get brown before the meat thermometer sez it&#039;s done, put the cover back on. 

I came to this party a little late, but I know how to make really good, really easy gravy using the blender - yell if yuz want instructions. Happy New Year, everybody!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why brine the turkey when you can just rub it all over with half a fresh orange? I schmear the orange half all over the turkey skin, then sprinkle poultry seasoning, tarragon, onion powder (anything that smells good, basically) onto the orange half, and stuff it inside the turkey cavity. The orange juice will help the skin brown w/out making it greasy, and the herby orange will help keep it moist without imparting little green bits into your gravy. Roast the turkey in a covered roaster, with an inch or water in the bottom, at a really high heat (400 F) for the first hour. After the first hour, remove the cover, turn the heat down to 375, and baste every 15 minutes till it&#8217;s done. If it get brown before the meat thermometer sez it&#8217;s done, put the cover back on. </p>
<p>I came to this party a little late, but I know how to make really good, really easy gravy using the blender &#8211; yell if yuz want instructions. Happy New Year, everybody!</p>
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		<title>By: Grafton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grafton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Starling -- I hear that somebody&#039;s grandmother used, not a wine-bottle, but a wide-mouthed shorter-necked bottle filled with ice-water. I am eying a certain glass milk-bottle thoughtfully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starling &#8212; I hear that somebody&#8217;s grandmother used, not a wine-bottle, but a wide-mouthed shorter-necked bottle filled with ice-water. I am eying a certain glass milk-bottle thoughtfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 10:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do I keep getting behind reading SP? This is awesome. I hope you had a fab day in the end. 

The reasons I love our strong Christmas food traditions is that a) I don&#039;t have to plan the menu, b) I know I can cook all of it successfully, even if it includes instant gravy and c) lots of people who come can cook all of it successfully, so I can almost cede control of the kitchen to others if I try really hard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I keep getting behind reading SP? This is awesome. I hope you had a fab day in the end. </p>
<p>The reasons I love our strong Christmas food traditions is that a) I don&#8217;t have to plan the menu, b) I know I can cook all of it successfully, even if it includes instant gravy and c) lots of people who come can cook all of it successfully, so I can almost cede control of the kitchen to others if I try really hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ven Detta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ven Detta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My family is of a Very Traditonal sort, so holiday dinners have the typical formula of bird (turkey or duck or whatnot), meat of the four-legged variety (ham or beef), brussels sprouts, root vegetables, and Yorkshire puddings for Christmas. Imagine my delight and curiosity when visiting with my husband&#039;s family for Christmas and being served a homemade deep-dish lasagna! The pan is 6-8&quot; deep and filled with cheesy tomatoey bacon-y meaty pasta-y goodness.  The moral of the story, I suppose, is that holiday meals come in all different varieties. 

I once tried to make a sausage gravy to go over biscuits. It turned out quite horrid. Of course, I was also winging out a recipe, knowing that gravies consist of roux + flavoring + other things. I&#039;ll find a recipe to stick to next time! 

Pies have always been daunting to me, especially since my mother made a Legendary Peach Pie for my father that she was never able to replicate despite many valiant attempts. He would mock her attempts, then wonder why she never made him any pie. :-\ I&#039;ve read a bajillion books about pie crusts and this way to make pie crust and that way to make pie crust, and I&#039;ve determined the only way to conquer this phobia is to finally make one of the dratted things and get over it. 

Also, I&#039;m very sad to learn that bacon grease does have its culinary uses, since my parents kept oodles and oodles of cans and jars filled with the stuff (because they couldn&#039;t pour it down the sink else it&#039;d clog), but never did anything else with it except take up counter space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My family is of a Very Traditonal sort, so holiday dinners have the typical formula of bird (turkey or duck or whatnot), meat of the four-legged variety (ham or beef), brussels sprouts, root vegetables, and Yorkshire puddings for Christmas. Imagine my delight and curiosity when visiting with my husband&#8217;s family for Christmas and being served a homemade deep-dish lasagna! The pan is 6-8&#8243; deep and filled with cheesy tomatoey bacon-y meaty pasta-y goodness.  The moral of the story, I suppose, is that holiday meals come in all different varieties. </p>
<p>I once tried to make a sausage gravy to go over biscuits. It turned out quite horrid. Of course, I was also winging out a recipe, knowing that gravies consist of roux + flavoring + other things. I&#8217;ll find a recipe to stick to next time! </p>
<p>Pies have always been daunting to me, especially since my mother made a Legendary Peach Pie for my father that she was never able to replicate despite many valiant attempts. He would mock her attempts, then wonder why she never made him any pie. :-\ I&#8217;ve read a bajillion books about pie crusts and this way to make pie crust and that way to make pie crust, and I&#8217;ve determined the only way to conquer this phobia is to finally make one of the dratted things and get over it. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m very sad to learn that bacon grease does have its culinary uses, since my parents kept oodles and oodles of cans and jars filled with the stuff (because they couldn&#8217;t pour it down the sink else it&#8217;d clog), but never did anything else with it except take up counter space.</p>
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		<title>By: Starling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Starling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IrishUp, I like that humidity explanation.  Making pie crust in Boston was more difficult than usual, and usual for me is the arid mountain west.  (I don&#039;t cook in NYC.)  So there&#039;s another data point for you.

Grafton, I want to try the butter version when I make a savory pie next week, using your proportions for the butter to flour.  No wine bottle, though--I&#039;m visiting the parents, who are teetotal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IrishUp, I like that humidity explanation.  Making pie crust in Boston was more difficult than usual, and usual for me is the arid mountain west.  (I don&#8217;t cook in NYC.)  So there&#8217;s another data point for you.</p>
<p>Grafton, I want to try the butter version when I make a savory pie next week, using your proportions for the butter to flour.  No wine bottle, though&#8211;I&#8217;m visiting the parents, who are teetotal.</p>
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		<title>By: IrishUp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IrishUp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grafton - back in the day, Crisco was lard or had a lard version. My mom&#039;s people are from Appalachia, and I grew up hearing Crisco for lard, the way people say Vaseline for petroleum jelly or Kleenex for facial tissues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grafton &#8211; back in the day, Crisco was lard or had a lard version. My mom&#8217;s people are from Appalachia, and I grew up hearing Crisco for lard, the way people say Vaseline for petroleum jelly or Kleenex for facial tissues.</p>
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		<title>By: Grafton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grafton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah! That makes sense, Starling. I haven&#039;t tried using vegetable shortening for years, and the last time it was because I asked my wife to buy lard and she came home with Crisco, having been misinformed by a store worker, and that time I used half butter for better flavour.

I agree, &#039;bout doing it the way mother did. Sometimes one must follow tradition and damn the torpedoes, by funder.

Becky -- I think IrishUp&#039;s got it. Lard is pig fat, and if you tell people something is cooked with lard a large percentage of them will say, &quot;OH MY FUCKING GAAAAAWWWWD! GROSS! DEATH!&quot;  At least, in my experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! That makes sense, Starling. I haven&#8217;t tried using vegetable shortening for years, and the last time it was because I asked my wife to buy lard and she came home with Crisco, having been misinformed by a store worker, and that time I used half butter for better flavour.</p>
<p>I agree, &#8217;bout doing it the way mother did. Sometimes one must follow tradition and damn the torpedoes, by funder.</p>
<p>Becky &#8212; I think IrishUp&#8217;s got it. Lard is pig fat, and if you tell people something is cooked with lard a large percentage of them will say, &#8220;OH MY FUCKING GAAAAAWWWWD! GROSS! DEATH!&#8221;  At least, in my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: IrishUp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IrishUp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grafton - thank you for the recipe &amp; tip! I will add that to the grated butter tip and see how it works. Loved your explainations, too! I do understand the why&#039;s of piecrusts, but the execution has been the issue. 

I think I am also challenged by living on the ocean. Seriously, the Atlantic is maybe 100yds off my front porch, and the next body of land is Portugal, I think. Anyway, the air in my house is always super-humid (and we have a wood stove going this time of year), and I always have to muck around with the water content when I make bread/pasta/pastry doughs. If I add whatever amount of water a recipe calls for, it&#039;s inevitably too much, and any amount of time outside of a fridge gives said dough ample opportunity to suck up more water. 

At least, that&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking to it.

Becky, I think it&#039;s because lard is pigfat. As we all know, ANIMAL FATZ=ZOMGDEATHFATZ followed by DEATH! Pig fat has somehow become the zomgdeathfattiests of deathfatz. My mom always made her piecrusts with lard, and she is one super-duper confectioner, I must say. Her lattice cherry pie renders me one giant pile of gustatory joy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grafton &#8211; thank you for the recipe &amp; tip! I will add that to the grated butter tip and see how it works. Loved your explainations, too! I do understand the why&#8217;s of piecrusts, but the execution has been the issue. </p>
<p>I think I am also challenged by living on the ocean. Seriously, the Atlantic is maybe 100yds off my front porch, and the next body of land is Portugal, I think. Anyway, the air in my house is always super-humid (and we have a wood stove going this time of year), and I always have to muck around with the water content when I make bread/pasta/pastry doughs. If I add whatever amount of water a recipe calls for, it&#8217;s inevitably too much, and any amount of time outside of a fridge gives said dough ample opportunity to suck up more water. </p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it.</p>
<p>Becky, I think it&#8217;s because lard is pigfat. As we all know, ANIMAL FATZ=ZOMGDEATHFATZ followed by DEATH! Pig fat has somehow become the zomgdeathfattiests of deathfatz. My mom always made her piecrusts with lard, and she is one super-duper confectioner, I must say. Her lattice cherry pie renders me one giant pile of gustatory joy!</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Becky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grafton - I&#039;m loving your explanations.  Why is using lard bold?  My family has always made pie crust that way.  I didn&#039;t even know it was possible to make it using butter until a year or two ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grafton &#8211; I&#8217;m loving your explanations.  Why is using lard bold?  My family has always made pie crust that way.  I didn&#8217;t even know it was possible to make it using butter until a year or two ago.</p>
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