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		<title>By: Ailbhe</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-121189</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Caitlin, that&#039;s a great story! Woman is harrassed - nay, assaulted - in public, and SOMEONE CARES! I want to see more stories like that.

Well done you for getting up and getting the someone-in-a-position-to-act to act, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caitlin, that&#8217;s a great story! Woman is harrassed &#8211; nay, assaulted &#8211; in public, and SOMEONE CARES! I want to see more stories like that.</p>
<p>Well done you for getting up and getting the someone-in-a-position-to-act to act, too.</p>
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		<title>By: HappyHippie9</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-121161</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I know I am entirely too late on this &quot;open thread&quot;, but I just wanted to bring up a very offensive Halloween costume I saw this year. I know we were talking about fat suits earlier, which led me to think about black face, which reminded me of a white guy dressed as Kanye West that was walking around with a girl dressed as Taylor Swift. This guy was literally in black face, so much so that I thought he was black until I saw his hands. My friend and I just looked at each other, open-mouthed, unsure of what we could do, seeing as in we were at an In-N-Out and didn&#039;t want to say anything to this kid. The fact that he was most definitely a college student, at a good UC school, kind of freaked me out. Do people my age not have manners anymore?

I think my reaction this time satisfied me, because my senior year in high school (2 and a half years ago), two guys came dressed as black guys, and everybody, including me, much to my shame now, thought it was funny. I didn&#039;t go to an entirely white school, it was actually pretty racially diverse, and nobody seemed to have a problem with these two guys. But then again, a black girl came in white face, so I think my school altogether was either extraordinarily accepting, or just messed up. You decide.

I just had to get that off my chest and see if anybody else could recommend what I could have done in that Halloween situation, seeing as it was Halloween and people tend to let go of PC-ness at that point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I know I am entirely too late on this &#8220;open thread&#8221;, but I just wanted to bring up a very offensive Halloween costume I saw this year. I know we were talking about fat suits earlier, which led me to think about black face, which reminded me of a white guy dressed as Kanye West that was walking around with a girl dressed as Taylor Swift. This guy was literally in black face, so much so that I thought he was black until I saw his hands. My friend and I just looked at each other, open-mouthed, unsure of what we could do, seeing as in we were at an In-N-Out and didn&#8217;t want to say anything to this kid. The fact that he was most definitely a college student, at a good UC school, kind of freaked me out. Do people my age not have manners anymore?</p>
<p>I think my reaction this time satisfied me, because my senior year in high school (2 and a half years ago), two guys came dressed as black guys, and everybody, including me, much to my shame now, thought it was funny. I didn&#8217;t go to an entirely white school, it was actually pretty racially diverse, and nobody seemed to have a problem with these two guys. But then again, a black girl came in white face, so I think my school altogether was either extraordinarily accepting, or just messed up. You decide.</p>
<p>I just had to get that off my chest and see if anybody else could recommend what I could have done in that Halloween situation, seeing as it was Halloween and people tend to let go of PC-ness at that point.</p>
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		<title>By: ccihcdaa</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-121119</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MA</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120944</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow.  I was pissed about scuzzy guy in Caitlin&#039;s story and then it ended with them having Climb Every Mountain in the Karaoke and I laughed.  Excellent storytelling, Caitlin.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow.  I was pissed about scuzzy guy in Caitlin&#8217;s story and then it ended with them having Climb Every Mountain in the Karaoke and I laughed.  Excellent storytelling, Caitlin.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120918</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In feminist victory news, I went down the pub to meet some friends tonight and they were totally having that experience where some random drunnk guy has decided YOU are the person he&#039;s going to talk to/demand entertainment from tonight, no matter that you&#039;ve told him twice that you&#039;re gay and you&#039;re pointedly ignoring him (prompting &quot;What? What are you saying? You&#039;re ignoring me!&quot; til they gave in out of politeness and included him because he was making it impossible for them not to.)

I arrived when he was already firmly established at the table and tried pointedly ignoring him too, which wasn&#039;t working, and was wondering what the hell else to do because he seemed drunk enough to react any number of ways if we tried plainspeaking.

Fortunately he solved the problem for me by putting his arm round my friend and pulling her toward him, at which point she and I simultaneously went &quot;NO!&quot; and she pushed him away and he wouldn&#039;t stop touching her and trying to wrap his arm round her. I went straight the fuck to the bar and said to the lovely bar woman &quot;There&#039;s a guy harassing my friend, he&#039;s all over her, he won&#039;t stop touching her&quot; and she was like &quot;Where?&quot; so I pointed to where she was having to FIGHT HIM OFF and the woman was like &quot;Yeah, I&#039;m throwing him out&quot;, which she then totally did. It was great. GTFO, random fucking weird drunk guy. It was no fun meeting you.

This pub also has &quot;Climb Every Mountain&quot; from the Sound of Music in their karaoke selection. This pub is awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In feminist victory news, I went down the pub to meet some friends tonight and they were totally having that experience where some random drunnk guy has decided YOU are the person he&#8217;s going to talk to/demand entertainment from tonight, no matter that you&#8217;ve told him twice that you&#8217;re gay and you&#8217;re pointedly ignoring him (prompting &#8220;What? What are you saying? You&#8217;re ignoring me!&#8221; til they gave in out of politeness and included him because he was making it impossible for them not to.)</p>
<p>I arrived when he was already firmly established at the table and tried pointedly ignoring him too, which wasn&#8217;t working, and was wondering what the hell else to do because he seemed drunk enough to react any number of ways if we tried plainspeaking.</p>
<p>Fortunately he solved the problem for me by putting his arm round my friend and pulling her toward him, at which point she and I simultaneously went &#8220;NO!&#8221; and she pushed him away and he wouldn&#8217;t stop touching her and trying to wrap his arm round her. I went straight the fuck to the bar and said to the lovely bar woman &#8220;There&#8217;s a guy harassing my friend, he&#8217;s all over her, he won&#8217;t stop touching her&#8221; and she was like &#8220;Where?&#8221; so I pointed to where she was having to FIGHT HIM OFF and the woman was like &#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;m throwing him out&#8221;, which she then totally did. It was great. GTFO, random fucking weird drunk guy. It was no fun meeting you.</p>
<p>This pub also has &#8220;Climb Every Mountain&#8221; from the Sound of Music in their karaoke selection. This pub is awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: closetpuritan</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120791</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Random thought: I was just remembering how we had to read &quot;The Late Great Me&quot; in high school because it was supposed to make us not want to drink and/or be wary of developing alcoholism. (I doubt it worked--I thought it was stupid at the time, and I have always been a teetotaller.) 

One of the things the main character mentions is how she gained &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; much weight and became &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; fat, and now she weighed 140. My reaction at the time was something along the lines of &quot;WTF? &lt;i&gt;I&#039;m&lt;/i&gt; 140!&quot; [I think I was actually more like 160, but my scale routinely read 10 lbs lower than a doctor&#039;s scale would, plus I was in denial about my actual weight.] I did not think of myself as fat, though I did think of myself as on the heavy end of not-fat. The book did not change that, but it did make me wonder if the book would encourage eating disorders, and it also made me wonder if the main character was really short.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thought: I was just remembering how we had to read &#8220;The Late Great Me&#8221; in high school because it was supposed to make us not want to drink and/or be wary of developing alcoholism. (I doubt it worked&#8211;I thought it was stupid at the time, and I have always been a teetotaller.) </p>
<p>One of the things the main character mentions is how she gained <i>so</i> much weight and became <i>so</i> fat, and now she weighed 140. My reaction at the time was something along the lines of &#8220;WTF? <i>I&#8217;m</i> 140!&#8221; [I think I was actually more like 160, but my scale routinely read 10 lbs lower than a doctor's scale would, plus I was in denial about my actual weight.] I did not think of myself as fat, though I did think of myself as on the heavy end of not-fat. The book did not change that, but it did make me wonder if the book would encourage eating disorders, and it also made me wonder if the main character was really short.</p>
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		<title>By: Calbert</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120764</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like &#039;tramp stamp&#039; at all but I have heard the sort of celticy abstract design on someones lower back called &#039;arse antlers&#039; which I do find amusing. I have some tattoos myself and the great urge to get some more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like &#8216;tramp stamp&#8217; at all but I have heard the sort of celticy abstract design on someones lower back called &#8216;arse antlers&#8217; which I do find amusing. I have some tattoos myself and the great urge to get some more.</p>
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		<title>By: chip pan fire</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120746</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chip pan fire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have nothing against tattoos - I have one, my boyfriend has one.  But bus guy&#039;s tattoo was quite a distinguishing feature - &quot;DEATH LIVES&quot; right under his ear.  I can&#039;t even remember what he looked like now, just the tattoo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing against tattoos &#8211; I have one, my boyfriend has one.  But bus guy&#8217;s tattoo was quite a distinguishing feature &#8211; &#8220;DEATH LIVES&#8221; right under his ear.  I can&#8217;t even remember what he looked like now, just the tattoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to use &quot;pathetic&quot; now on the occasions when I used to use &quot;lame.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to use &#8220;pathetic&#8221; now on the occasions when I used to use &#8220;lame.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Meems</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/11/10/open-thread-5/#comment-120700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meems]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Sara NoH - Exactly!  I didn&#039;t misunderstand a damn thing; if he wasn&#039;t so invested in proving me wrong, he wouldn&#039;t have bothered writing in the first place - or continuing to respond.  Whatever.  I&#039;m not especially intimidated by a random man on the internet who can&#039;t actually write a sentence thinking he has something on me. :)

@Zenoodle - My grandfather was a merchant marine and had a bunch of tattoos, also.  My parents never took issue with me knowing about them (they were far more scared of allowing me in the car when he was driving...) and we have family stories about how he used to embarrass my aunt in front of dates by making the sailor on his upper arm &quot;dance.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sara NoH &#8211; Exactly!  I didn&#8217;t misunderstand a damn thing; if he wasn&#8217;t so invested in proving me wrong, he wouldn&#8217;t have bothered writing in the first place &#8211; or continuing to respond.  Whatever.  I&#8217;m not especially intimidated by a random man on the internet who can&#8217;t actually write a sentence thinking he has something on me. :)</p>
<p>@Zenoodle &#8211; My grandfather was a merchant marine and had a bunch of tattoos, also.  My parents never took issue with me knowing about them (they were far more scared of allowing me in the car when he was driving&#8230;) and we have family stories about how he used to embarrass my aunt in front of dates by making the sailor on his upper arm &#8220;dance.&#8221;</p>
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