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	<title>Comments on: The New Yorker presents: bizarro fat acceptance!</title>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fillyjonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, holy shit. I did the math a billion times and I was sure this was how it worked out, but you are right! I should have called you the first time. RICHARD COHEN SAID I WOULD NEVER HAVE TO DO ALGEBRA

Esther has been willing to let people look at at least excerpts of the book for a long time. My writer friend pitched her article months ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, holy shit. I did the math a billion times and I was sure this was how it worked out, but you are right! I should have called you the first time. RICHARD COHEN SAID I WOULD NEVER HAVE TO DO ALGEBRA</p>
<p>Esther has been willing to let people look at at least excerpts of the book for a long time. My writer friend pitched her article months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: meowser</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103700</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meowser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;in ten years, Americans gained more than a billion pounds, or a gut-busting 3.3 pounds per person per year! &lt;/em&gt;

I just read this sentence again.  It&#039;s even sillier than that, FJ, it&#039;s 3.3 pounds per person &lt;em&gt;over ten years&lt;/em&gt;, or 0.33 pounds per person per year!  Thirty-three pounds in a decade would actually be well above average weight gain for most people, other than us lucky Remeron-swilling cusses, people who were under age 13 a decade ago, and maybe some women who have just been through menopause.

Also, the &lt;em&gt;Fat Studies Reader&lt;/em&gt; (not to be confused with &lt;em&gt;Fat Studies in the U.K.&lt;/em&gt;, which just came out) isn&#039;t being released until &lt;em&gt;November&lt;/em&gt;.  I would have to imagine that Kolbert filed her piece several weeks ago, which would put it back in &lt;em&gt;June&lt;/em&gt;.  How the hell did Kolbert score a copy this far in advance?  Were they even done &lt;em&gt;editing&lt;/em&gt; it yet?  Read the foreword, my bouncing bottom -- she&#039;s probably just guessing about even &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>in ten years, Americans gained more than a billion pounds, or a gut-busting 3.3 pounds per person per year! </em></p>
<p>I just read this sentence again.  It&#8217;s even sillier than that, FJ, it&#8217;s 3.3 pounds per person <em>over ten years</em>, or 0.33 pounds per person per year!  Thirty-three pounds in a decade would actually be well above average weight gain for most people, other than us lucky Remeron-swilling cusses, people who were under age 13 a decade ago, and maybe some women who have just been through menopause.</p>
<p>Also, the <em>Fat Studies Reader</em> (not to be confused with <em>Fat Studies in the U.K.</em>, which just came out) isn&#8217;t being released until <em>November</em>.  I would have to imagine that Kolbert filed her piece several weeks ago, which would put it back in <em>June</em>.  How the hell did Kolbert score a copy this far in advance?  Were they even done <em>editing</em> it yet?  Read the foreword, my bouncing bottom &#8212; she&#8217;s probably just guessing about even <em>that</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: sf</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, phew. I know I&#039;m new here, but I thought I might have been missing something. Guess not! :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, phew. I know I&#8217;m new here, but I thought I might have been missing something. Guess not! :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Machine</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sweet Machine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good lord. I guess we Professional Bloggers (where&#039;s my paycheck again?) really are falling down on the job if we didn&#039;t ban her ass ages ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord. I guess we Professional Bloggers (where&#8217;s my paycheck again?) really are falling down on the job if we didn&#8217;t ban her ass ages ago.</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fillyjonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should look at her comments history! She&#039;s been in for a while, and she&#039;s pissed us off &lt;i&gt;every single time&lt;/i&gt;, either with her constant diet commentary or her defense of people who make unsolicited comments on your &quot;health&quot; or whatever. The question isn&#039;t who let her in, it&#039;s why wasn&#039;t she out long ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should look at her comments history! She&#8217;s been in for a while, and she&#8217;s pissed us off <i>every single time</i>, either with her constant diet commentary or her defense of people who make unsolicited comments on your &#8220;health&#8221; or whatever. The question isn&#8217;t who let her in, it&#8217;s why wasn&#8217;t she out long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweet Machine</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sweet Machine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus. Who let you in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus. Who let you in?</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fillyjonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;You make sure to mention fatty food as if the fat-haters are right that fat people get fat because we eat fat.&lt;/i&gt;

What the hell is wrong with you? I mentioned fatty food because I AM OFFERING A SYNOPSIS OF AN ARTICLE THAT DEALS WITH BOOKS ABOUT WHY WE EAT FATTY FOOD. Maybe that&#039;s too many levels of complexity for you to handle, but it&#039;s what that &quot;the books she deals with&quot; part you quoted means. I really fail to understand how you read that as &quot;please insult my intelligence and then tell me about your awesome ketosis diet&quot; but I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s because you&#039;re a fucking lunatic.

This is well beyond your third strike so guess what: I&#039;m not giving you a chance to flounce. You&#039;re banned. If you don&#039;t understand why, please read the comments policy under the point &quot;don&#039;t care if you don&#039;t understand why&quot; and also, as a courtesy, the point &quot;do not come in here and talk about your fucking diet like you have in every single fucking post and I don&#039;t understand why we haven&#039;t banned you before.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You make sure to mention fatty food as if the fat-haters are right that fat people get fat because we eat fat.</i></p>
<p>What the hell is wrong with you? I mentioned fatty food because I AM OFFERING A SYNOPSIS OF AN ARTICLE THAT DEALS WITH BOOKS ABOUT WHY WE EAT FATTY FOOD. Maybe that&#8217;s too many levels of complexity for you to handle, but it&#8217;s what that &#8220;the books she deals with&#8221; part you quoted means. I really fail to understand how you read that as &#8220;please insult my intelligence and then tell me about your awesome ketosis diet&#8221; but I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re a fucking lunatic.</p>
<p>This is well beyond your third strike so guess what: I&#8217;m not giving you a chance to flounce. You&#8217;re banned. If you don&#8217;t understand why, please read the comments policy under the point &#8220;don&#8217;t care if you don&#8217;t understand why&#8221; and also, as a courtesy, the point &#8220;do not come in here and talk about your fucking diet like you have in every single fucking post and I don&#8217;t understand why we haven&#8217;t banned you before.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sf</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dana, wait, I&#039;m confused! Do you mean that ketosis is actually a beneficial state in some way? I&#039;m *definitely* not a scientist, but that doesn&#039;t sound right to me, based on my knowledge as a layperson. I don&#039;t want to be argumentative, but it would be great if you could clarify. 

(Though, in defense of the writers of this blog -- I think they *are* pretty well versed in &quot;actual nutritional science&quot;. At least, I&#039;m convinced!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, wait, I&#8217;m confused! Do you mean that ketosis is actually a beneficial state in some way? I&#8217;m *definitely* not a scientist, but that doesn&#8217;t sound right to me, based on my knowledge as a layperson. I don&#8217;t want to be argumentative, but it would be great if you could clarify. </p>
<p>(Though, in defense of the writers of this blog &#8212; I think they *are* pretty well versed in &#8220;actual nutritional science&#8221;. At least, I&#8217;m convinced!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Addendum to note about the brain&#039;s nutritional requirements:  It&#039;s repeated all over the nutritionosphere that the brain must have dietary sugar to function.  Not true.  There are a few areas of the brain that do require glucose, but they consist of cells that are short on mitochondria.  Every other area of the brain is more efficient on ketones than it is on glucose.  I read about those low-carbers who were fuzzyheaded, and I think I know why they were:  they were in the first part of &quot;induction phase&quot; and hadn&#039;t completely switched over metabolism yet.  I&#039;ve done that, and once I got through &quot;induction flu&quot; I was fine.  Thought more clearly than ever, to tell you the truth.

But even those parts of the brain that need glucose, you don&#039;t have to *eat* glucose to sustain them.  You can make glucose from protein.  And you still need dietary fat as building blocks for various structures in brain cells, and to create hormones which also affect brain health.  So those are some reasons we crave fat as a food.

I got so messed up from eating the wrong kinds of fats and not enough fats overall, plus not getting enough fat-soluble vitamins that I get pretty pissy now when I see misinformation spread around, especially by people who are supposed to be on my side or something.  I know professional bloggers are busy and stuff, but there&#039;s a reason blogs have a reputation as being mis-informative.  If you&#039;re in that much of a hurry, you will miss something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addendum to note about the brain&#8217;s nutritional requirements:  It&#8217;s repeated all over the nutritionosphere that the brain must have dietary sugar to function.  Not true.  There are a few areas of the brain that do require glucose, but they consist of cells that are short on mitochondria.  Every other area of the brain is more efficient on ketones than it is on glucose.  I read about those low-carbers who were fuzzyheaded, and I think I know why they were:  they were in the first part of &#8220;induction phase&#8221; and hadn&#8217;t completely switched over metabolism yet.  I&#8217;ve done that, and once I got through &#8220;induction flu&#8221; I was fine.  Thought more clearly than ever, to tell you the truth.</p>
<p>But even those parts of the brain that need glucose, you don&#8217;t have to *eat* glucose to sustain them.  You can make glucose from protein.  And you still need dietary fat as building blocks for various structures in brain cells, and to create hormones which also affect brain health.  So those are some reasons we crave fat as a food.</p>
<p>I got so messed up from eating the wrong kinds of fats and not enough fats overall, plus not getting enough fat-soluble vitamins that I get pretty pissy now when I see misinformation spread around, especially by people who are supposed to be on my side or something.  I know professional bloggers are busy and stuff, but there&#8217;s a reason blogs have a reputation as being mis-informative.  If you&#8217;re in that much of a hurry, you will miss something.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/15/the-new-yorker-presents-bizarro-fat-acceptance/#comment-103681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 02:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The books she looks at discuss the evolutionary, financial, psychological, and industry-driven reasons why the population as a whole might be eating food in larger portions, and might be inclined to eat fatty, salty, and calorie-dense foods.&quot;

We eat calorie-dense foods because it&#039;s more efficient than grazing all day, particularly as we&#039;re not cattle or rabbits.  We eat salty foods because salty taste parses on some instinctive level as &quot;mineral-rich,&quot; and because an inadequate salt intake will kill us.  And we eat fatty foods because we have large brains and must keep them fed, and because fat is a more reliable source of fuel to an omnivore or carnivore than starch is, since animals are available as food all year around but plants are not and, at least ever since we tamed fire, we do not hibernate in winter.

You make sure to mention fatty food as if the fat-haters are right that fat people get fat because we eat fat.  If you&#039;re going to stick up for fat people maybe you need to brush up on some actual nutritional science.  Only a suggestion.  If I may make another suggestion, Gary Taubes (Good Calories, Bad Calories) is a good place to start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The books she looks at discuss the evolutionary, financial, psychological, and industry-driven reasons why the population as a whole might be eating food in larger portions, and might be inclined to eat fatty, salty, and calorie-dense foods.&#8221;</p>
<p>We eat calorie-dense foods because it&#8217;s more efficient than grazing all day, particularly as we&#8217;re not cattle or rabbits.  We eat salty foods because salty taste parses on some instinctive level as &#8220;mineral-rich,&#8221; and because an inadequate salt intake will kill us.  And we eat fatty foods because we have large brains and must keep them fed, and because fat is a more reliable source of fuel to an omnivore or carnivore than starch is, since animals are available as food all year around but plants are not and, at least ever since we tamed fire, we do not hibernate in winter.</p>
<p>You make sure to mention fatty food as if the fat-haters are right that fat people get fat because we eat fat.  If you&#8217;re going to stick up for fat people maybe you need to brush up on some actual nutritional science.  Only a suggestion.  If I may make another suggestion, Gary Taubes (Good Calories, Bad Calories) is a good place to start.</p>
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