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		<title>By: bluedancer</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-103000</link>
		<dc:creator>bluedancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps, pun not intended, heh.</description>
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		<title>By: bluedancer</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102999</link>
		<dc:creator>bluedancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’ve seen stories so mangled, I had absolutely no idea what they were about even when I’d just read the actual report&lt;/em&gt;

Seems to be a common theme. I&#039;m studying quantum information, and practically none of the popular news articles I&#039;ve seen have enough information for me to figure out what the heck new &quot;breakthrough&quot; they&#039;ve come up with this time. Usually I can at least guess which paper they&#039;re basing the story off of, but one time I couldn&#039;t even figure out &lt;em&gt;who&lt;/em&gt; had done the work in question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve seen stories so mangled, I had absolutely no idea what they were about even when I’d just read the actual report</em></p>
<p>Seems to be a common theme. I&#8217;m studying quantum information, and practically none of the popular news articles I&#8217;ve seen have enough information for me to figure out what the heck new &#8220;breakthrough&#8221; they&#8217;ve come up with this time. Usually I can at least guess which paper they&#8217;re basing the story off of, but one time I couldn&#8217;t even figure out <em>who</em> had done the work in question.</p>
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		<title>By: Eucritta</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102958</link>
		<dc:creator>Eucritta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>emmy, yes!

Health news often strikes me as akin to an ever-shifting maze, in which every few steps a new obstacle springs into place: yet another article urging me to PANIC! about this or that disease or condition or social phenomenon, none of them ever placed into context or even described adequately, and rarely providing any genuinely useful information.  I used to read the NYT&#039;s health section fairly regularly, and most of the time finished up feeling as though I&#039;d been smacked from pillar to post to no purpose whatsoever.

And all this, all this feeds into our distorted perception of what constitutes &lt;i&gt;wellness&lt;/i&gt;, not as simple good health but as an ever-retreating golden ring at the end of a race in which diseases chase after us like so many hell-hounds, zombies and bug-eyed monsters from outer space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>emmy, yes!</p>
<p>Health news often strikes me as akin to an ever-shifting maze, in which every few steps a new obstacle springs into place: yet another article urging me to PANIC! about this or that disease or condition or social phenomenon, none of them ever placed into context or even described adequately, and rarely providing any genuinely useful information.  I used to read the NYT&#8217;s health section fairly regularly, and most of the time finished up feeling as though I&#8217;d been smacked from pillar to post to no purpose whatsoever.</p>
<p>And all this, all this feeds into our distorted perception of what constitutes <i>wellness</i>, not as simple good health but as an ever-retreating golden ring at the end of a race in which diseases chase after us like so many hell-hounds, zombies and bug-eyed monsters from outer space.</p>
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		<title>By: emmy</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102928</link>
		<dc:creator>emmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;volcanista, my training is in archaeology, so believe me, I can feel your pain. I’ve seen stories so mangled, I had absolutely no idea what they were about even when I’d just read the actual report, and it doesn’t help at all that sometimes archaeologists themselves become so enamored of interpretations that they’ll bend time and space in their honor. (Or, My Ire Against the Interpretation of the Hols-Fels Venus, Let Me Show You It.)&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d just like to jump in here to mention that the shit they do to findings in bacteriology and epidemiology are utterly astounding as well. You know CA-MRSA is going to kill us all, right? Because it&#039;s, like, immune to all antibiotics! Everyone panic!!

Well, you know, except for the part where it&#039;s still susceptible to vancomycin and a couple of other newer antimicrobials, and it&#039;s not actually any worse than 15 other bacteria I could think of off the top of my head, and your chances of contracting any of them are actually pretty slim. But still, PANIC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>volcanista, my training is in archaeology, so believe me, I can feel your pain. I’ve seen stories so mangled, I had absolutely no idea what they were about even when I’d just read the actual report, and it doesn’t help at all that sometimes archaeologists themselves become so enamored of interpretations that they’ll bend time and space in their honor. (Or, My Ire Against the Interpretation of the Hols-Fels Venus, Let Me Show You It.)</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to jump in here to mention that the shit they do to findings in bacteriology and epidemiology are utterly astounding as well. You know CA-MRSA is going to kill us all, right? Because it&#8217;s, like, immune to all antibiotics! Everyone panic!!</p>
<p>Well, you know, except for the part where it&#8217;s still susceptible to vancomycin and a couple of other newer antimicrobials, and it&#8217;s not actually any worse than 15 other bacteria I could think of off the top of my head, and your chances of contracting any of them are actually pretty slim. But still, PANIC!</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Russell</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102893</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a while it seemed like every day there would be a new &quot;obesity linked to...&quot; story. I kept a file and started keeping track, but grew bored with it. But it was amazing... obesity causes halitosis and foot fungus and herpes and receding hairlines.

When will we see, &quot;Obesity linked to sweet, sweet lovin&#039;.&quot; Oh wait, that one is true.

http://jezebel.com/5072249/study-shows-overweight-women-have-the-most-sex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a while it seemed like every day there would be a new &#8220;obesity linked to&#8230;&#8221; story. I kept a file and started keeping track, but grew bored with it. But it was amazing&#8230; obesity causes halitosis and foot fungus and herpes and receding hairlines.</p>
<p>When will we see, &#8220;Obesity linked to sweet, sweet lovin&#8217;.&#8221; Oh wait, that one is true.</p>
<p><a href="http://jezebel.com/5072249/study-shows-overweight-women-have-the-most-sex" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/5072249/study-shows-overweight-women-have-the-most-sex</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Grrl In the Moon</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102892</link>
		<dc:creator>The Grrl In the Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like anything we read we need to take it with a grain of salt. We need to analyze our own feelings and beliefs as well as what we have heard around the topic already. Is it a shame that journalism like this exists? Yes. Is it a shame that student was misinterpreted for readership? Yes.

However we are all also human and the majority of the population will be more interested in fanatical scientific evidence, then what science truly found out. Again, a shame.

What I think we need to do is just remember that science is an evolving ever changing thing and just because its scientific doesn&#039;t mean it’s, true, a good idea, or from a reputable source. Wasn&#039;t shock therapy a fantastic scientific breakthrough?

So I love the fact this wasn’t blindingly revered as new science, that it was called into question. I don’t think journalism will ever be 100% honest, honesty doesn’t sell papers as well as a fantastic story. 

So thank you, thank you for reminding people to stop, and think about what they are reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like anything we read we need to take it with a grain of salt. We need to analyze our own feelings and beliefs as well as what we have heard around the topic already. Is it a shame that journalism like this exists? Yes. Is it a shame that student was misinterpreted for readership? Yes.</p>
<p>However we are all also human and the majority of the population will be more interested in fanatical scientific evidence, then what science truly found out. Again, a shame.</p>
<p>What I think we need to do is just remember that science is an evolving ever changing thing and just because its scientific doesn&#8217;t mean it’s, true, a good idea, or from a reputable source. Wasn&#8217;t shock therapy a fantastic scientific breakthrough?</p>
<p>So I love the fact this wasn’t blindingly revered as new science, that it was called into question. I don’t think journalism will ever be 100% honest, honesty doesn’t sell papers as well as a fantastic story. </p>
<p>So thank you, thank you for reminding people to stop, and think about what they are reading.</p>
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		<title>By: LilahMorgan</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102890</link>
		<dc:creator>LilahMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reporters tend to bungle their descriptions of legal issues, too, particularly judicial opinions.  I think there might be a similar problem to science reporting that what sounds like the most interesting thing to lay people is often not what is actually significant about a particular thing.  Which is how we get headlines like &quot;Nation&#039;s Second Highest Court Says Lead in Paint Not a Problem,&quot; when what was really going on was that the court said that an adminstrative agency regulation validly made a rule that prohibited lead to a certain concentration.  Or whatever.  

I actually don&#039;t think it&#039;s just searching for money through more interesting headlines, either.  I think journalists are searching for something that will connect with the reader and that leads to misrepresentations of the scope of that connection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reporters tend to bungle their descriptions of legal issues, too, particularly judicial opinions.  I think there might be a similar problem to science reporting that what sounds like the most interesting thing to lay people is often not what is actually significant about a particular thing.  Which is how we get headlines like &#8220;Nation&#8217;s Second Highest Court Says Lead in Paint Not a Problem,&#8221; when what was really going on was that the court said that an adminstrative agency regulation validly made a rule that prohibited lead to a certain concentration.  Or whatever.  </p>
<p>I actually don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s just searching for money through more interesting headlines, either.  I think journalists are searching for something that will connect with the reader and that leads to misrepresentations of the scope of that connection.</p>
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		<title>By: car</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/07/13/quote-of-the-day-4/#comment-102889</link>
		<dc:creator>car</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PZ references on Shapely Prose? Internet worlds colliding... can&#039;t cope...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PZ references on Shapely Prose? Internet worlds colliding&#8230; can&#8217;t cope&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m assuming people getting indignant about the editor rewriting the thing do not work in the writing field. :) That&#039;s more or less par for the course. But not running the finished, rewritten project past the original author OR a fact-checker? That&#039;s totally irresponsible. I&#039;ve certainly had articles go out under my name where I barely wrote a word, but I always see them and someone besides me or my editor always checks them before they get published.

Science writing can be particularly difficult because the technical words don&#039;t always sound like &quot;coefficient of performance&quot; -- sometimes they are words like &quot;work&quot; or &quot;stress,&quot; where you think you know what it means but there&#039;s a specific technical meaning that most people don&#039;t grasp. The different but overlapping vocabularies of &quot;technical lingo&quot; and &quot;normal speech&quot; mean that an apparently innocuous rephrasing into lay language can actually drastically change the claim being made, for instance by using words that are synonyms in normal English but not at all the same in science, or by assuming that words with different specific scientific meanings are actually synonyms because they might be in regular speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming people getting indignant about the editor rewriting the thing do not work in the writing field. :) That&#8217;s more or less par for the course. But not running the finished, rewritten project past the original author OR a fact-checker? That&#8217;s totally irresponsible. I&#8217;ve certainly had articles go out under my name where I barely wrote a word, but I always see them and someone besides me or my editor always checks them before they get published.</p>
<p>Science writing can be particularly difficult because the technical words don&#8217;t always sound like &#8220;coefficient of performance&#8221; &#8212; sometimes they are words like &#8220;work&#8221; or &#8220;stress,&#8221; where you think you know what it means but there&#8217;s a specific technical meaning that most people don&#8217;t grasp. The different but overlapping vocabularies of &#8220;technical lingo&#8221; and &#8220;normal speech&#8221; mean that an apparently innocuous rephrasing into lay language can actually drastically change the claim being made, for instance by using words that are synonyms in normal English but not at all the same in science, or by assuming that words with different specific scientific meanings are actually synonyms because they might be in regular speech.</p>
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		<title>By: Eucritta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eucritta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>volcanista, my training is in archaeology, so believe me, I can feel your pain.  I&#039;ve seen stories so mangled, I had absolutely no idea what they were about even when I&#039;d just read the actual report, and it doesn&#039;t help at all that sometimes archaeologists themselves become so enamored of interpretations that they&#039;ll bend time and space in their honor.  (Or, My Ire Against the Interpretation of the Hols-Fels Venus, Let Me Show You It.)

My own contention too is that almost anything can be made to be &#039;sexy&#039; - it&#039;s all in how well it&#039;s written.  Case in point: back when I made my living as a data and word processor operator, a paper on the history of shotcrete passed over my desk.  And it made what might well have been a snooze fest into such entertaining material, that 25 years later I remember it with tremendous fondness.  I just wish I&#039;d kept a copy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>volcanista, my training is in archaeology, so believe me, I can feel your pain.  I&#8217;ve seen stories so mangled, I had absolutely no idea what they were about even when I&#8217;d just read the actual report, and it doesn&#8217;t help at all that sometimes archaeologists themselves become so enamored of interpretations that they&#8217;ll bend time and space in their honor.  (Or, My Ire Against the Interpretation of the Hols-Fels Venus, Let Me Show You It.)</p>
<p>My own contention too is that almost anything can be made to be &#8217;sexy&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s all in how well it&#8217;s written.  Case in point: back when I made my living as a data and word processor operator, a paper on the history of shotcrete passed over my desk.  And it made what might well have been a snooze fest into such entertaining material, that 25 years later I remember it with tremendous fondness.  I just wish I&#8217;d kept a copy!</p>
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