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		<title>By: C.T.</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-100270</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C.T.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
I&#039;ve been reading this blog for a while but never commented before. But the stupid comment by Ms. Marks (which I thank you for highlighting) pissed me off so much that I have to say something. 

Ok, I was a fat adolescent. There were times in my adolescence that I was unhappy. There were times in my adolescence that I was extremely happy. There was (as is) absolutely zero correlation between my body shape/size and my own measure of happiness.

Really, we&#039;re talking about teen girls here. Teen freakin&#039; girls!  Look at the flipside of saying that a fat girl can never REALLY be happy with herself (she&#039;s only being DEFIANT or RESIGNED.) About the thin girls: does Ms. Marks think, &quot;Of course she looks great so she MUST be happy? If she&#039;s miserable she must be so only because she is being DEFIANT or RESIGNED&quot; Besides being the stupidest thing I&#039;ve ever heard...how twisted is that? Only skinny chicks in high school are granted enough deference by mental health &quot;professionals&quot; to be viewed as  human beings that experience a gamut of emotions? Dude...WHAT?

I was friends with a thin, pretty girl in high school. One minute people were nice to her, inviting her to parties and the like. The next minute people called her a &quot;slut&quot; and &quot;whore&quot; and all varieties of things because she was thin and pretty.  Sometimes it really hurt her. But she would go to the parties, often with me, who also dealt with weight comments that were hurtful..and imagine this, we would have a GREAT time. She and I would oscillate between happy and miserable...just like literally any and every other adolescent in the history of American adolescence. And not just because of nasty comments about her body/character. Sometimes ( like every other adolescent) she had family problems, or boyfriend problems, or felt stressed, overwhelmed and over scheduled. She was thin and pretty, and I was fat and kind of frumpy...but guess what, we were JUST ALIKE!

Anyone who equates the &quot;sadness&quot; of a fat teen ONLY with the &quot;fat&quot; and not with the &quot;teen&quot; doesn&#039;t understand the concept of either and shouldn&#039;t be commenting on anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I&#8217;ve been reading this blog for a while but never commented before. But the stupid comment by Ms. Marks (which I thank you for highlighting) pissed me off so much that I have to say something. </p>
<p>Ok, I was a fat adolescent. There were times in my adolescence that I was unhappy. There were times in my adolescence that I was extremely happy. There was (as is) absolutely zero correlation between my body shape/size and my own measure of happiness.</p>
<p>Really, we&#8217;re talking about teen girls here. Teen freakin&#8217; girls!  Look at the flipside of saying that a fat girl can never REALLY be happy with herself (she&#8217;s only being DEFIANT or RESIGNED.) About the thin girls: does Ms. Marks think, &#8220;Of course she looks great so she MUST be happy? If she&#8217;s miserable she must be so only because she is being DEFIANT or RESIGNED&#8221; Besides being the stupidest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard&#8230;how twisted is that? Only skinny chicks in high school are granted enough deference by mental health &#8220;professionals&#8221; to be viewed as  human beings that experience a gamut of emotions? Dude&#8230;WHAT?</p>
<p>I was friends with a thin, pretty girl in high school. One minute people were nice to her, inviting her to parties and the like. The next minute people called her a &#8220;slut&#8221; and &#8220;whore&#8221; and all varieties of things because she was thin and pretty.  Sometimes it really hurt her. But she would go to the parties, often with me, who also dealt with weight comments that were hurtful..and imagine this, we would have a GREAT time. She and I would oscillate between happy and miserable&#8230;just like literally any and every other adolescent in the history of American adolescence. And not just because of nasty comments about her body/character. Sometimes ( like every other adolescent) she had family problems, or boyfriend problems, or felt stressed, overwhelmed and over scheduled. She was thin and pretty, and I was fat and kind of frumpy&#8230;but guess what, we were JUST ALIKE!</p>
<p>Anyone who equates the &#8220;sadness&#8221; of a fat teen ONLY with the &#8220;fat&#8221; and not with the &#8220;teen&#8221; doesn&#8217;t understand the concept of either and shouldn&#8217;t be commenting on anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlin</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-100232</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaitlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, sorry, I didn&#039;t know. I&#039;ll make a note of that. =)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, sorry, I didn&#8217;t know. I&#8217;ll make a note of that. =)</p>
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		<title>By: O.C.</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-100161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[O.C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kaitlin, welcome!   It&#039;s wonderful that you&#039;ve found that perspective so young.  For many of us it took decades!

But a note:  We don&#039;t use &quot;retarded&quot; as an insult/joke around here.  It&#039;s ableist and can be hurtful.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaitlin, welcome!   It&#8217;s wonderful that you&#8217;ve found that perspective so young.  For many of us it took decades!</p>
<p>But a note:  We don&#8217;t use &#8220;retarded&#8221; as an insult/joke around here.  It&#8217;s ableist and can be hurtful.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlin</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-100159</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaitlin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a fat teen that loves herself. Even my parents can&#039;t wrap their heads around it! I remember asking my parents when I was younger:

&quot;Am I pretty?&quot;

&quot;Yes, Kaitlin, you&#039;re one of the most beautiful girls I know. But, you could stand to lose a little weight.&quot;

I&#039;ve spent the good portion of 15 years being ashamed of being fat. After I first found out about FA, I realized that I&#039;m okay as who I am. Sure, I need to be more active and need to eat less junk (Don&#039;t we all? ;) ), but I&#039;m not a burden on anyone because I&#039;m me!

@aebhel:

I have the same problem! I don&#039;t understand the way that many girls in my school organize their boundaries. I&#039;m socially retarded. XD]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fat teen that loves herself. Even my parents can&#8217;t wrap their heads around it! I remember asking my parents when I was younger:</p>
<p>&#8220;Am I pretty?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, Kaitlin, you&#8217;re one of the most beautiful girls I know. But, you could stand to lose a little weight.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent the good portion of 15 years being ashamed of being fat. After I first found out about FA, I realized that I&#8217;m okay as who I am. Sure, I need to be more active and need to eat less junk (Don&#8217;t we all? ;) ), but I&#8217;m not a burden on anyone because I&#8217;m me!</p>
<p>@aebhel:</p>
<p>I have the same problem! I don&#8217;t understand the way that many girls in my school organize their boundaries. I&#8217;m socially retarded. XD</p>
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		<title>By: friendly daughter</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-100113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[friendly daughter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember coming into the Army at age 17; at five foot four I weighed 127 pounds, and I felt SHAME about that horrid number. 

A fatter and more blubbery cow had surely never walked the planet! 127!!! That&#039;s almost.... 130! 

Now, fat girls surely face much more overt difficulty, but any doc who implies &quot;normal&quot; BMI girls are in any way immune from self-loathing derived from totally impossible beauty standards ought not be writing advice columns for the general public.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember coming into the Army at age 17; at five foot four I weighed 127 pounds, and I felt SHAME about that horrid number. </p>
<p>A fatter and more blubbery cow had surely never walked the planet! 127!!! That&#8217;s almost&#8230;. 130! </p>
<p>Now, fat girls surely face much more overt difficulty, but any doc who implies &#8220;normal&#8221; BMI girls are in any way immune from self-loathing derived from totally impossible beauty standards ought not be writing advice columns for the general public.</p>
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		<title>By: Kath</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-100017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A woman with confidence is &quot;aggressive&quot; or &quot;needs to get a grip on herself&quot;.  Or an old Australian saying &quot;has tickets on herself&quot;.  In other words, it&#039;s a fallacy for a woman to be confident or have strong self esteem.

A man with confidence is a &quot;go getter&quot; or &quot;dynamic&quot; - and good on him!

My heart aches for the teenager I once was (and young woman too for that matter) and for those coming after me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A woman with confidence is &#8220;aggressive&#8221; or &#8220;needs to get a grip on herself&#8221;.  Or an old Australian saying &#8220;has tickets on herself&#8221;.  In other words, it&#8217;s a fallacy for a woman to be confident or have strong self esteem.</p>
<p>A man with confidence is a &#8220;go getter&#8221; or &#8220;dynamic&#8221; &#8211; and good on him!</p>
<p>My heart aches for the teenager I once was (and young woman too for that matter) and for those coming after me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexie Di</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-99929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lexie Di]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh! And  part of my nightly self-love is to look at myself in the mirror and name off what I love about myself. It&#039;s a great practice for me. Soon, you&#039;ll be naming all that you can see. ^___^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! And  part of my nightly self-love is to look at myself in the mirror and name off what I love about myself. It&#8217;s a great practice for me. Soon, you&#8217;ll be naming all that you can see. ^___^</p>
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		<title>By: Lexie Di</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-99928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lexie Di]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was picked on a lot as a child and my mom did everything she could to help me loose weight because that was the only way to keep kids from messing with me day after day. I never lost the weight. I was a very sad and scared person until around my sophmore year in high school. I stared looking people in the eye, smiling and being DEFIANT towards people who wanted me to keep looking at the floor until I was thin.

Once, in English, we were given an assignment to read a play. I went to the book store and picked up a thin book... a play called Fat Pig. As I walked out of the store, book in hand, my mom sad: &quot;Lexie, I&#039;m so proud of you. I would have never had the courage to do that when I was your age.&quot; I know I&#039;m fat. I want to read and learn and love people like me! I wanted literature that made me mad about the injustices that came with being fat. I want to be mad so that I can try to change the world. I have self-esteem and someone telling me I don&#039;t just makes me puff my chest out more, smile wider, and toss my hair about in flagrant, oh-so self-esteem-enhancing, delicious defiance!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was picked on a lot as a child and my mom did everything she could to help me loose weight because that was the only way to keep kids from messing with me day after day. I never lost the weight. I was a very sad and scared person until around my sophmore year in high school. I stared looking people in the eye, smiling and being DEFIANT towards people who wanted me to keep looking at the floor until I was thin.</p>
<p>Once, in English, we were given an assignment to read a play. I went to the book store and picked up a thin book&#8230; a play called Fat Pig. As I walked out of the store, book in hand, my mom sad: &#8220;Lexie, I&#8217;m so proud of you. I would have never had the courage to do that when I was your age.&#8221; I know I&#8217;m fat. I want to read and learn and love people like me! I wanted literature that made me mad about the injustices that came with being fat. I want to be mad so that I can try to change the world. I have self-esteem and someone telling me I don&#8217;t just makes me puff my chest out more, smile wider, and toss my hair about in flagrant, oh-so self-esteem-enhancing, delicious defiance!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-99797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Women are expected to list things they hate about themselves, it’s part of our socialisation (and, sadly, often a bonding ritual).&quot;

So very true. I have a solid self-image, but I find myself falling into this more often than I would like..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Women are expected to list things they hate about themselves, it’s part of our socialisation (and, sadly, often a bonding ritual).&#8221;</p>
<p>So very true. I have a solid self-image, but I find myself falling into this more often than I would like..</p>
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		<title>By: Chickfactor</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/06/18/you-think-you-have-self-esteem-thats-so-cute-you-poor-thing/#comment-99793</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chickfactor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heather and Eleanor Blair- word.]]></description>
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