Comments on: Keith Fournier, Man Who Pronounces

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 21:06:59 +0000

And another Greta Christina link. (I'm a massive fan of Greta Christina.) KellyK:I’m okay with mocking stupidity said and done in the name of Christianity, as long as people show a modicum of respect to the actual beliefs. No. No. No. No. No. No. And, while looking for that, I found her essay "Is it okay to mock religion?", which is even more apt. (Have I mentioned that I'm a massive fan of Greta Christina?) TRiG.

By: Timothy (TRiG)

Timothy (TRiG) — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:18:17 +0000

Since this comment thread devolved into a general discussion of religion/atheism/LGBT-issues/feminism stuff I thought this link was apt: http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta_christinas_weblog/2008/12/being-an-atheist-in-the-queer-community.html

TRiG.

By: Daomadan

Daomadan — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:58:44 +0000

Regarding “Men Who Explain Things.” I actually found that brilliant article after becoming so frustrated with a male roommate at the time that I googled “men who explain things (without knowing what they’re talking about) to see if this phenomenon was just in my experience.

And I found Solnit’s brilliance. Still amuses me up to this day how I found it.

By: SunflowerP

SunflowerP — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:10:02 +0000

FillyJonk: I like “MWET”, because it calls to mind the old colloquialism “all wet”.

The Bald Soprano: The link to the longer version of the article is much appreciated!

Sunflower

By: Hasytacks

Hasytacks — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:19:08 +0000

Are the right to be thin, and the right for the Hetero people to marry consitered “special rights” now. I am so confused…what are normal rights? The right to breath? Is that still a normal right?

Why are these rights consitered special or unusual when people besides you want them?

By: fillyjonk

fillyjonk — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:32:20 +0000

Hitler saying he was using the same rationale as the Catholic Church does not equal the Church itself promoting the Holocaust.

Right, that’s like saying that the Beatles promoted the Manson murders. Denying the Holocaust and not speaking out against it sufficiently are also very different; whether the Catholic church is guilty of the latter is a matter of some debate, but it’s actually dismissive of the gravity of real Holocaust denial to call that Holocaust denial.

By: DRST

DRST — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:22:29 +0000

The Church also had a large role in promoting the Holocaust. In fact, Hitler defended his abuse on the Jews by stating he was only reflecting the treatment they have received at the hands of the Church for thousands of years. Sadly, he was right.

Sarah, Hitler saying he was using the same rationale as the Catholic Church does not equal the Church itself promoting the Holocaust. The response of the Church during the war was deeply wrong in many ways, but the Vatican was hardly alone in failing to speak out enough against the Nazis to satisfy those of us with the clarity of hindsight.

A multitude of books have been written on the subject of the Church and the Holocaust, largely without any concrete conclusions. Given that, I’m not sure this thread is a good place to debate such a potentially explosive topic.

DRST

By: fillyjonk

fillyjonk — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:05:02 +0000

…Wait, that doesn’t sound right. Well, genetic traits are strongly correlated with eventual death.

By: Sarah

Sarah — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:02:14 +0000

I actually did find this offensive: ” If the Catholic church can deny the Holocaust, are any of us even fractionally surprised that they can dehumanise fat people so sweepingly?” That’s not true and never has been.

A simple Google search would prove that statement wrong. Even the Chancellor of Germany (Angela Merkel) has criticized the Church for not speaking out against Holocaust denial.

By: E

Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:17:38 +0000

“A very good argument can be made that obesity also has a genetic predisposition. However, I will fight it my whole life because it is unhealthy.”

Fat, being a genetic trait, IS unhealthy. Just like all other genetic traits, i.e. hair colour and texture, eye colour and shape, skin pigment, predisposition to acne, height, having a big or small nose, mouth or ears, being able to roll your tongue, or being double-jointed are unhealthy.

…Wait, that doesn’t sound right.