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		<title>By: Ishtar</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ishtar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dammit FJ, don&#039;t use such big words. Now I is confuzed.

(The cats are grumbling too.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit FJ, don&#8217;t use such big words. Now I is confuzed.</p>
<p>(The cats are grumbling too.)</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fillyjonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, cats are so teleological.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, cats are so teleological.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishtar</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ishtar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ FJ

Ah but see, none of the usual rules apply to cats. So all your logic and science just doesn&#039;t cut it. 

Cats would be superior in any environment so when it seems like they&#039;re lacking, it&#039;s really because there&#039;s something wrong with the environment, not with the cats.

Cats are the evolutionary peak (ask any cat) and we mere mortals are put on this earth to cater to their needs. True fulfillment can only be attained when you&#039;ve made a cat happy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ FJ</p>
<p>Ah but see, none of the usual rules apply to cats. So all your logic and science just doesn&#8217;t cut it. </p>
<p>Cats would be superior in any environment so when it seems like they&#8217;re lacking, it&#8217;s really because there&#8217;s something wrong with the environment, not with the cats.</p>
<p>Cats are the evolutionary peak (ask any cat) and we mere mortals are put on this earth to cater to their needs. True fulfillment can only be attained when you&#8217;ve made a cat happy.</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fillyjonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Cats are obviously the superior species and evolution is supposed to improve a species. Right? &lt;/i&gt;

Well, not quite. Evolution improves a species with respect to its environment -- it doesn&#039;t just &quot;improve&quot; it, there being no objective assessment of what&#039;s &quot;better&quot; and no final goal to mark it against. Even the apparently perfect cat species could be ill-adapted to an environment where, say, devotion and passionate interest were critical for avoiding predators or attracting a mate.

THE FACT THAT CATS DON&#039;T GET THAT CLEARLY MEANS THEY&#039;RE INSUFFICIENTLY EVOLVED]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Cats are obviously the superior species and evolution is supposed to improve a species. Right? </i></p>
<p>Well, not quite. Evolution improves a species with respect to its environment &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t just &#8220;improve&#8221; it, there being no objective assessment of what&#8217;s &#8220;better&#8221; and no final goal to mark it against. Even the apparently perfect cat species could be ill-adapted to an environment where, say, devotion and passionate interest were critical for avoiding predators or attracting a mate.</p>
<p>THE FACT THAT CATS DON&#8217;T GET THAT CLEARLY MEANS THEY&#8217;RE INSUFFICIENTLY EVOLVED</p>
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		<title>By: volcanista</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92772</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[volcanista]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, it was that if you take the BMI of one cube of water that is 1m across, and a second one that is 2m across, you get drastically different results. It&#039;s a very extreme example!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it was that if you take the BMI of one cube of water that is 1m across, and a second one that is 2m across, you get drastically different results. It&#8217;s a very extreme example!</p>
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		<title>By: Ishtar</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ishtar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[

No, that&#039;s impossible. Cats are obviously the superior species and evolution is supposed to improve a species. Right? How do you improve on perfection? Cats everywhere are seriously miffed. Expect retribution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s impossible. Cats are obviously the superior species and evolution is supposed to improve a species. Right? How do you improve on perfection? Cats everywhere are seriously miffed. Expect retribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Ostara</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/04/21/how-to-succeed-in-research-without-really-trying/#comment-92561</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ostara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;and the rise was not corrected for an aging population OR increasing height. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Gahhhhh!! Seriously? Now that is just damn dishonest. Ok, the other stuff FJ was posting about is too (obviously), but seriously? Not adjusting for other factors like that is just irresponsible at best. Christ, I knew I was naive, but &lt;i&gt;dang&lt;/i&gt;.

And the BMI just makes me GAH all over again. I think I&#039;m remembering the same comment as you made by some smart person and it was a really good analogy they made that illustrated just how bogus the dang thing is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;and the rise was not corrected for an aging population OR increasing height. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Gahhhhh!! Seriously? Now that is just damn dishonest. Ok, the other stuff FJ was posting about is too (obviously), but seriously? Not adjusting for other factors like that is just irresponsible at best. Christ, I knew I was naive, but <i>dang</i>.</p>
<p>And the BMI just makes me GAH all over again. I think I&#8217;m remembering the same comment as you made by some smart person and it was a really good analogy they made that illustrated just how bogus the dang thing is.</p>
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		<title>By: volcanista</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[volcanista]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ostara, they did level off, like a decade ago (at least for women and children, I forget the numbers for men), and the rise was not corrected for an aging population OR increasing height. As someone smart pointed out on here a long time ago (who was that, anyway?), BMI does not scale correctly with height, so if you take two people with exactly the same height and width proportions, where one person is taller, the taller person has the higher BMI. That certainly wasn&#039;t corrected in the curves, either.

Everyone, all groups, are living longer than ever before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ostara, they did level off, like a decade ago (at least for women and children, I forget the numbers for men), and the rise was not corrected for an aging population OR increasing height. As someone smart pointed out on here a long time ago (who was that, anyway?), BMI does not scale correctly with height, so if you take two people with exactly the same height and width proportions, where one person is taller, the taller person has the higher BMI. That certainly wasn&#8217;t corrected in the curves, either.</p>
<p>Everyone, all groups, are living longer than ever before.</p>
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		<title>By: Ostara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ostara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[bigliberty, that&#039;s the first thing I thought of when I heard about the whole &quot;fat people consume more fuel&quot; bullshit (which by the way, makes me think they just assume we disgusting fatties are just drinking the petroleum straight up - which actually might not be too far off the mark come to that). My immediate thought I jumped to was &quot;these people can&#039;t have dieted once in their lives&quot; (but perhaps it&#039;s either that or their refusal to accept anything other than fat = bad, or they&#039;re motivated by companies who&#039;d make money off this ideology - combination of all the above?) because the cost of the prepackaged diet food is so much more expensive and is so much more wasteful than regular stuff you can buy and then mix together yourself. But of course I didn&#039;t care as much before because at least I would be THIN which of course trumped all else for a good 18 years of my life.

I think now with bogus shit like this there&#039;s come to be this conception of &quot;good&quot; skinnies and &quot;bad&quot; skinnies. And while, yeah, the world just fucking wants you to shut up and be thin already, doing it the &quot;good&quot; way, via Whole Foods and a zillion other yuppie-ised stores or brands/types of food is the new posh.

Also, spinsterwitch, YES that is also something blatantly obvious that no one ever seems to think about when talking about &quot;OMG food production and consumption is up!!11&quot; I mean really? We&#039;ve pretty much doubled as a species, what&#039;d you expect?

Also, this might be a little off topic or just the conspiracy theorist in me, but part of me wonders how much people take into consideration the rising obesity rate with like... I dunno, something that might put it in perspective like the rising amount of friggin people in the world today, not the amount of people in the world in the 70&#039;s. I know, I know &quot;the percentages!&quot; but.. I dunno, doesn&#039;t it seem logical that with more people in the world there would be more room for any particular group of people to increase? (dunno if this is making any sense - just something that&#039;s always bugged me)

Also, another thought just struck me. If obesity levels are constantly rising (which studies seem to be pointing to actually showing a leveling off in the last few years) then doesn&#039;t that indicate that more people who are obese are surviving? I can&#039;t believe that everyone who would pick up an article and see it say &quot;obesity rates have increased the past year by 5%!&quot; and really honestly think that all those who were obese for the percentage to be studied died of teh fatz and then another huge chunk of the population caught teh obese death plus 5% more. (dunno if that&#039;s making any sense either, just kinda the way I&#039;ve viewed this shit since I started looking at it with a more cynical eye)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bigliberty, that&#8217;s the first thing I thought of when I heard about the whole &#8220;fat people consume more fuel&#8221; bullshit (which by the way, makes me think they just assume we disgusting fatties are just drinking the petroleum straight up &#8211; which actually might not be too far off the mark come to that). My immediate thought I jumped to was &#8220;these people can&#8217;t have dieted once in their lives&#8221; (but perhaps it&#8217;s either that or their refusal to accept anything other than fat = bad, or they&#8217;re motivated by companies who&#8217;d make money off this ideology &#8211; combination of all the above?) because the cost of the prepackaged diet food is so much more expensive and is so much more wasteful than regular stuff you can buy and then mix together yourself. But of course I didn&#8217;t care as much before because at least I would be THIN which of course trumped all else for a good 18 years of my life.</p>
<p>I think now with bogus shit like this there&#8217;s come to be this conception of &#8220;good&#8221; skinnies and &#8220;bad&#8221; skinnies. And while, yeah, the world just fucking wants you to shut up and be thin already, doing it the &#8220;good&#8221; way, via Whole Foods and a zillion other yuppie-ised stores or brands/types of food is the new posh.</p>
<p>Also, spinsterwitch, YES that is also something blatantly obvious that no one ever seems to think about when talking about &#8220;OMG food production and consumption is up!!11&#8243; I mean really? We&#8217;ve pretty much doubled as a species, what&#8217;d you expect?</p>
<p>Also, this might be a little off topic or just the conspiracy theorist in me, but part of me wonders how much people take into consideration the rising obesity rate with like&#8230; I dunno, something that might put it in perspective like the rising amount of friggin people in the world today, not the amount of people in the world in the 70&#8242;s. I know, I know &#8220;the percentages!&#8221; but.. I dunno, doesn&#8217;t it seem logical that with more people in the world there would be more room for any particular group of people to increase? (dunno if this is making any sense &#8211; just something that&#8217;s always bugged me)</p>
<p>Also, another thought just struck me. If obesity levels are constantly rising (which studies seem to be pointing to actually showing a leveling off in the last few years) then doesn&#8217;t that indicate that more people who are obese are surviving? I can&#8217;t believe that everyone who would pick up an article and see it say &#8220;obesity rates have increased the past year by 5%!&#8221; and really honestly think that all those who were obese for the percentage to be studied died of teh fatz and then another huge chunk of the population caught teh obese death plus 5% more. (dunno if that&#8217;s making any sense either, just kinda the way I&#8217;ve viewed this shit since I started looking at it with a more cynical eye)</p>
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		<title>By: bigliberty</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigliberty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 13:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KellyK, I recall figuring out early in my dieting days that exercising made the cravings and hunger much, much worse (about three or four hours later). The way I lost the most weight the fastest was to starve and drive everywhere (or have my friends drive me). Later on I tried to mix dieting with exercising, but I started to exercise binge bigtime and the only way I could get my fix was to go to a gym, which was a 30 min drive away and cost a bunch of money to join.Then, since I needed to eat and making food from scratch was out of the question because I had no time, and plus I need to count calories and points very precisely, I would buy pre-packaged frozen meals, those single-serving chocolate crackers masquerading as cookies (btw, zah? r u srs?), and so forth. Hence the mountain of waste. 

And that&#039;s just the garbage. Think of all the extra processes that diet food goes through in order to be acceptably fake --- I mean, &quot;healthy&quot;. So diet food itself is much more expensive (and energy-wasting) to produce, and you get much less of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KellyK, I recall figuring out early in my dieting days that exercising made the cravings and hunger much, much worse (about three or four hours later). The way I lost the most weight the fastest was to starve and drive everywhere (or have my friends drive me). Later on I tried to mix dieting with exercising, but I started to exercise binge bigtime and the only way I could get my fix was to go to a gym, which was a 30 min drive away and cost a bunch of money to join.Then, since I needed to eat and making food from scratch was out of the question because I had no time, and plus I need to count calories and points very precisely, I would buy pre-packaged frozen meals, those single-serving chocolate crackers masquerading as cookies (btw, zah? r u srs?), and so forth. Hence the mountain of waste. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just the garbage. Think of all the extra processes that diet food goes through in order to be acceptably fake &#8212; I mean, &#8220;healthy&#8221;. So diet food itself is much more expensive (and energy-wasting) to produce, and you get much less of it.</p>
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