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		<title>By: Laving the Ginger</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/13/quick-hit-its-almost-as-if-fat-tastes-good/#comment-88736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laving the Ginger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, this is truly the most amazing example I&#039;ve ever seen of a case where literally &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; is wrong.

In other news, this blog is otherwise very sane and awesome. Keep it up!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is truly the most amazing example I&#8217;ve ever seen of a case where literally <i>everyone</i> is wrong.</p>
<p>In other news, this blog is otherwise very sane and awesome. Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: TropicalChrome</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jenny1144: &lt;i&gt;Relatedly, does anyone have a strong opinion on melting/not melting butter for chocolate chip cookies? &lt;/i&gt;

My only strong opinion on cookies is if they taste good to you :). So if what you&#039;re doing gives results you like, there&#039;s no reason to change.

Having said that, melting butter does change the texture of the cookies. Quoting from Cookwise by Shirley Corriher (I mentioned it previously, I love this book) in her cookies section: &quot;Butter is hard as a rock at one temperature. Then, only slightly warmer, it is soft and just a little warmer it melts. If you use a fat like butter that melts over a narrow temperature range, shortly after the cookies go into a hot oven the butter will melt and the cookies will spread.&quot;

So if you&#039;re melting the butter ahead of time you&#039;re doing this step outside the oven which would change the spreading characteristics.

When I make chocolate chip cookies, I use half butter and half Crisco for the fat. The Crisco melts over a wider spectrum so the cookies stay a little thicker, which is how I like them. (But there&#039;s still all the buttery goodness.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jenny1144: <i>Relatedly, does anyone have a strong opinion on melting/not melting butter for chocolate chip cookies? </i></p>
<p>My only strong opinion on cookies is if they taste good to you :). So if what you&#8217;re doing gives results you like, there&#8217;s no reason to change.</p>
<p>Having said that, melting butter does change the texture of the cookies. Quoting from Cookwise by Shirley Corriher (I mentioned it previously, I love this book) in her cookies section: &#8220;Butter is hard as a rock at one temperature. Then, only slightly warmer, it is soft and just a little warmer it melts. If you use a fat like butter that melts over a narrow temperature range, shortly after the cookies go into a hot oven the butter will melt and the cookies will spread.&#8221;</p>
<p>So if you&#8217;re melting the butter ahead of time you&#8217;re doing this step outside the oven which would change the spreading characteristics.</p>
<p>When I make chocolate chip cookies, I use half butter and half Crisco for the fat. The Crisco melts over a wider spectrum so the cookies stay a little thicker, which is how I like them. (But there&#8217;s still all the buttery goodness.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[High quality butter is actually a health food--it has fat soluable vitamins and selenium which boosts the immune system. I make sure and enjoy some everyday! I highly reccomend Kerrygold (from Trader Joe&#039;s)
&quot;Why Butter Is Better&quot;
http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High quality butter is actually a health food&#8211;it has fat soluable vitamins and selenium which boosts the immune system. I make sure and enjoy some everyday! I highly reccomend Kerrygold (from Trader Joe&#8217;s)<br />
&#8220;Why Butter Is Better&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/butter.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Coco</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coco]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Volcanista - phew, I&#039;m so glad I didn&#039;t offend b/c you&#039;re one of my favorite peeps to read comments from here. 

Also, totally seeing your point about natural/unnatural - I mean, cocaine is a plant-based drug. Poisonous mushrooms that can kill one in seconds are completely natural. Scorpion venom - 100% natural. None are generally thought of as good for you. Heh. 

Thanks for giving me some chemistry for thought. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volcanista &#8211; phew, I&#8217;m so glad I didn&#8217;t offend b/c you&#8217;re one of my favorite peeps to read comments from here. </p>
<p>Also, totally seeing your point about natural/unnatural &#8211; I mean, cocaine is a plant-based drug. Poisonous mushrooms that can kill one in seconds are completely natural. Scorpion venom &#8211; 100% natural. None are generally thought of as good for you. Heh. </p>
<p>Thanks for giving me some chemistry for thought. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Molly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though correlation hardly proves causation, I was thrilled to note that I only eat full-fat dairy when I saw this study:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6400171.stm

Also, full-fat dairy actually tends to be better for the lactose-intolerant than lowfat or fat-free.  Skim milk and low fat milk products are usually supplemented with additional milk solids, sugars and other derivatives to give them substance and make them more appealing. 

I&#039;ll take the real thing, please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though correlation hardly proves causation, I was thrilled to note that I only eat full-fat dairy when I saw this study:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6400171.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6400171.stm</a></p>
<p>Also, full-fat dairy actually tends to be better for the lactose-intolerant than lowfat or fat-free.  Skim milk and low fat milk products are usually supplemented with additional milk solids, sugars and other derivatives to give them substance and make them more appealing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take the real thing, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny1144</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny1144]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ChloeMireille, I never knew that about butter in cookies!  I always use butter in my cookies, and they&#039;re never dry, but maybe I compensate by deliciously undercooking them. :)

Relatedly, does anyone have a strong opinion on melting/not melting butter for chocolate chip cookies?  I always melt it all the way (i.e. to liquid state), which I find makes the dough taste way better (to me, anyway), but I&#039;m not sure it makes much of a difference to the final product.  Anyone else have a preference?  (I basically use the tollhouse recipe, fyi.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChloeMireille, I never knew that about butter in cookies!  I always use butter in my cookies, and they&#8217;re never dry, but maybe I compensate by deliciously undercooking them. :)</p>
<p>Relatedly, does anyone have a strong opinion on melting/not melting butter for chocolate chip cookies?  I always melt it all the way (i.e. to liquid state), which I find makes the dough taste way better (to me, anyway), but I&#8217;m not sure it makes much of a difference to the final product.  Anyone else have a preference?  (I basically use the tollhouse recipe, fyi.)</p>
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		<title>By: ChloeMireille</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/13/quick-hit-its-almost-as-if-fat-tastes-good/#comment-88496</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChloeMireille]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To answer the butter vs. margarine debacle in cookies....

Butter makes cookies spread and dry out more because of the high water content, so you have to use a fat that&#039;s more solid at room temperature.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer the butter vs. margarine debacle in cookies&#8230;.</p>
<p>Butter makes cookies spread and dry out more because of the high water content, so you have to use a fat that&#8217;s more solid at room temperature.</p>
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		<title>By: volcanista</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[volcanista]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha, Coco, I am not that sensitive. :) I maintain that the natural vs. unnatural categorization is a false dichotomy, but I did not take it personally! I&#039;m actually a geochemist, and the &quot;real&quot; chemists would totally look down on me.

hoshi, that&#039;s a really good thing to point out. No matter how &quot;natural&quot; the source of an ingredient, if it does bad things for you, it&#039;s totally valid to make that observation and avoid it! And there are certainly some preservatives and whatnot that have been used over the years that are pretty questionable (and unnecessary) in terms of safety. The FDA has been terrible historically about making sure these things are tested and regulated well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, Coco, I am not that sensitive. :) I maintain that the natural vs. unnatural categorization is a false dichotomy, but I did not take it personally! I&#8217;m actually a geochemist, and the &#8220;real&#8221; chemists would totally look down on me.</p>
<p>hoshi, that&#8217;s a really good thing to point out. No matter how &#8220;natural&#8221; the source of an ingredient, if it does bad things for you, it&#8217;s totally valid to make that observation and avoid it! And there are certainly some preservatives and whatnot that have been used over the years that are pretty questionable (and unnecessary) in terms of safety. The FDA has been terrible historically about making sure these things are tested and regulated well.</p>
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		<title>By: MsChilePepper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MsChilePepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, OF COURSE it&#039;s common courtesy to serve guests food they can eat, that&#039;s not in question.  Sweet Pete on a pogo stick, I&#039;m a &quot;good Midwest girl&quot;; I know how to do hospitality.  I&#039;ve had lots of dinner parties with a mixed guest list, and everyone left with happy tums.

That&#039;s what *should* happen, but it *isn&#039;t* happening.  I don&#039;t know why, clearly Vidya doesn&#039;t know why, either.  I&#039;m not saying it wouldn&#039;t be hurtful to be excluded, but they *know* she&#039;s a vegan.  The why doesn&#039;t really matter.

Really, what other solution is there?  A confrontation?  There&#039;s that minefield I mentioned.  They&#039;re breaking the social contract by excluding her, but that doesn&#039;t give her the right to break it, too, by imposing her dietary demands on others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, OF COURSE it&#8217;s common courtesy to serve guests food they can eat, that&#8217;s not in question.  Sweet Pete on a pogo stick, I&#8217;m a &#8220;good Midwest girl&#8221;; I know how to do hospitality.  I&#8217;ve had lots of dinner parties with a mixed guest list, and everyone left with happy tums.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what *should* happen, but it *isn&#8217;t* happening.  I don&#8217;t know why, clearly Vidya doesn&#8217;t know why, either.  I&#8217;m not saying it wouldn&#8217;t be hurtful to be excluded, but they *know* she&#8217;s a vegan.  The why doesn&#8217;t really matter.</p>
<p>Really, what other solution is there?  A confrontation?  There&#8217;s that minefield I mentioned.  They&#8217;re breaking the social contract by excluding her, but that doesn&#8217;t give her the right to break it, too, by imposing her dietary demands on others.</p>
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		<title>By: hoshi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hoshi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[short story: about a month ago my family gathered together to celebrate my nephew&#039;s birthday. my dad made these AWESOME cheeseburgers. i was loving every bite of it. ^_^

then my oldest sister surprised me. she asked if i was falling asleep. i told her no, that i was just enjoying the food. (i was closing my eyes and floating in a bliss of tastyness.) she looked at me like i was a bit odd. oh well. ^_^

among my family, i am currently the fattest. my parents have been on some diet or restriction for as long as i&#039;ve known them. my sisters are both dieting to lose &quot;preggers&quot; fat. i&#039;m the only one accepting my weight, and accepting that food is GOOD. it makes meals a little awkward at times, but i&#039;m derailing from my point.

it should not be &quot;shocking&quot; for someone to enjoy food. aside from pure nutrition, food is meant to be delicious! when i dieted, i used low-sugar and low-fat substitutions. it was rare for me to eat a meal and think, &quot;now THIS is satisfying.&quot; 

i don&#039;t count calories or fat grams anymore. unfortunately i still have to count carbs because of diabetes, but i keep my eyes on that number only.  i have found there is such *freedom* in eating what satisfies me. eating without worrying about weight is a difficult hurdle to leap, but well worth the struggle.

and as a note about processed foods and additives - i agree that a lot of it is bunk. to be honest i don&#039;t believe much research anymore, since it&#039;s all pretty dang biased. but i do know that i finally figured out that aspartame triggers depression for me. i don&#039;t know why or how, but it does. (i was having major depressive episodes and i couldn&#039;t figure out why. then i realized they were happening every time i consumed something with aspartame. even gum!) i cut out the aspartame, and the random depressive episodes stopped.

this could be a fluke with my body. i don&#039;t know. but i think it&#039;s more important to listen and pay attention to our internal cues than to leap at the latest &quot;research.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>short story: about a month ago my family gathered together to celebrate my nephew&#8217;s birthday. my dad made these AWESOME cheeseburgers. i was loving every bite of it. ^_^</p>
<p>then my oldest sister surprised me. she asked if i was falling asleep. i told her no, that i was just enjoying the food. (i was closing my eyes and floating in a bliss of tastyness.) she looked at me like i was a bit odd. oh well. ^_^</p>
<p>among my family, i am currently the fattest. my parents have been on some diet or restriction for as long as i&#8217;ve known them. my sisters are both dieting to lose &#8220;preggers&#8221; fat. i&#8217;m the only one accepting my weight, and accepting that food is GOOD. it makes meals a little awkward at times, but i&#8217;m derailing from my point.</p>
<p>it should not be &#8220;shocking&#8221; for someone to enjoy food. aside from pure nutrition, food is meant to be delicious! when i dieted, i used low-sugar and low-fat substitutions. it was rare for me to eat a meal and think, &#8220;now THIS is satisfying.&#8221; </p>
<p>i don&#8217;t count calories or fat grams anymore. unfortunately i still have to count carbs because of diabetes, but i keep my eyes on that number only.  i have found there is such *freedom* in eating what satisfies me. eating without worrying about weight is a difficult hurdle to leap, but well worth the struggle.</p>
<p>and as a note about processed foods and additives &#8211; i agree that a lot of it is bunk. to be honest i don&#8217;t believe much research anymore, since it&#8217;s all pretty dang biased. but i do know that i finally figured out that aspartame triggers depression for me. i don&#8217;t know why or how, but it does. (i was having major depressive episodes and i couldn&#8217;t figure out why. then i realized they were happening every time i consumed something with aspartame. even gum!) i cut out the aspartame, and the random depressive episodes stopped.</p>
<p>this could be a fluke with my body. i don&#8217;t know. but i think it&#8217;s more important to listen and pay attention to our internal cues than to leap at the latest &#8220;research.&#8221;</p>
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