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		<title>By: Bunny Mazonas</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/06/spare-the-shame-spoil-the-child/#comment-88231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunny Mazonas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The funny thing is, people who shame you for eating nothing but nutritionless or nutrition-low convenient food probably wouldn&#039;t shame you for eating rabbit (at least not from a nutrition standpoint), despite the fact that game keepers used to die of malnutrition notoriously despite gorging themselves to joyful bloatation at every meal - because they ate nothing but the rabbits they cooked, which contain literally nothing but protein.

Although rabbit is damn tasty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funny thing is, people who shame you for eating nothing but nutritionless or nutrition-low convenient food probably wouldn&#8217;t shame you for eating rabbit (at least not from a nutrition standpoint), despite the fact that game keepers used to die of malnutrition notoriously despite gorging themselves to joyful bloatation at every meal &#8211; because they ate nothing but the rabbits they cooked, which contain literally nothing but protein.</p>
<p>Although rabbit is damn tasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Bunny Mazonas</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/06/spare-the-shame-spoil-the-child/#comment-88230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bunny Mazonas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gah!  Yes!  This!

I was fortunate enough to grow up with a relatively sane family.  But I still remember being a fat kid and being shamed about food.  And encouraged to diet.  And receiving unquestioning praise when I lost a stone in under a month.

I went through cycles:  The Good Girl, who doesn&#039;t eat breakfast or lunch, never eats sweets, only finishes half her dinner and lies to her mother that she is eating 1000 calories, not 650, and works out every day even when she is in pain and can&#039;t understand why she keeps getting headaches and dizzy spells and passes out if she tries to stand up too quickly.  The Failure, who sneaks bites of food from the fridge even when she isn&#039;t hungry, and scoffs several mouthfuls of whatever is in the fridge when she is &quot;making coffee&quot;, because she needs to get as much food in as possible without anyone knowing.  Even though she just had dinner and is genuinely full.

I became addicted to the sensation of hunger.  Now, I have to work at recognising hunger at all.  And am fat.

Seriously, learning to smooth the edges of a block of cheese down so no one can tell you&#039;ve bitten a chunk out of it is not part of a healthy lifestyle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah!  Yes!  This!</p>
<p>I was fortunate enough to grow up with a relatively sane family.  But I still remember being a fat kid and being shamed about food.  And encouraged to diet.  And receiving unquestioning praise when I lost a stone in under a month.</p>
<p>I went through cycles:  The Good Girl, who doesn&#8217;t eat breakfast or lunch, never eats sweets, only finishes half her dinner and lies to her mother that she is eating 1000 calories, not 650, and works out every day even when she is in pain and can&#8217;t understand why she keeps getting headaches and dizzy spells and passes out if she tries to stand up too quickly.  The Failure, who sneaks bites of food from the fridge even when she isn&#8217;t hungry, and scoffs several mouthfuls of whatever is in the fridge when she is &#8220;making coffee&#8221;, because she needs to get as much food in as possible without anyone knowing.  Even though she just had dinner and is genuinely full.</p>
<p>I became addicted to the sensation of hunger.  Now, I have to work at recognising hunger at all.  And am fat.</p>
<p>Seriously, learning to smooth the edges of a block of cheese down so no one can tell you&#8217;ve bitten a chunk out of it is not part of a healthy lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/06/spare-the-shame-spoil-the-child/#comment-87748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The image of being regarded with disgust is really powerful. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is sick or ignorant.
It was perceiving these looks of disgust that helped lead to an eating disorder that severely damaged my health for many years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The image of being regarded with disgust is really powerful. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is sick or ignorant.<br />
It was perceiving these looks of disgust that helped lead to an eating disorder that severely damaged my health for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: octopod</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/06/spare-the-shame-spoil-the-child/#comment-87614</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, Shannon, ramen does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; have any vitamins. I knew a guy in college who tried to live on the stuff and got scurvy. Actually scurvy. No kidding.

If you&#039;re going to live on ramen, add some kimchi so that it doesn&#039;t happen to you. ^_^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, Shannon, ramen does <i>not</i> have any vitamins. I knew a guy in college who tried to live on the stuff and got scurvy. Actually scurvy. No kidding.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to live on ramen, add some kimchi so that it doesn&#8217;t happen to you. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Marste</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marste]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just have to say that I am so grateful for my mom.  My eating disorders came years later, after trying my damndest to be a ballerina (turns out DDDDs can&#039;t be dieted/starved down below a full C, NO MATTER WHAT), but never from my mom.  I remember taking pineapple and cottage cheese to school, not because it was &quot;diet&quot; food, but because I LOVED it.  And I remember getting mocked mercilessly by my classmates for not having something &quot;normal,&quot; like Lunchables.  My poor mom.  She did her best.  Turned out in the end that society was stronger.  But she tried.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to say that I am so grateful for my mom.  My eating disorders came years later, after trying my damndest to be a ballerina (turns out DDDDs can&#8217;t be dieted/starved down below a full C, NO MATTER WHAT), but never from my mom.  I remember taking pineapple and cottage cheese to school, not because it was &#8220;diet&#8221; food, but because I LOVED it.  And I remember getting mocked mercilessly by my classmates for not having something &#8220;normal,&#8221; like Lunchables.  My poor mom.  She did her best.  Turned out in the end that society was stronger.  But she tried.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rosa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Sarah, you rock. I got away from those conversations by going back to work, I swear - the stay-at-home moms in my neighborhood all have more money than is good for them. Though I do hate the corollary working-mom conversation that goes &#039; &quot;I would love to be home with my kids but I just can&#039;t afford it&quot; - from women I know very well could. There shouldn&#039;t be any shame in saying &quot;I see my babies 14 hours a day and I am pretty damn grateful to have the other 10 away from them.&quot; 

These articles/discussion just make me think of two conversations I&#039;ve had with moms.

One was this formerly-homeless woman I met, who  told me her crowning achievement in her life was that she &amp; her girlfriend got custody of all their kids &amp; made them a home where nobody hit them and they could have seconds at dinner if they wanted. 

The other is my boyfriend&#039;s sister, the nurse, who said to me quite seriously, that it was OK for my (underweight) 3-year-old to have whole milk because &quot;it&#039;s not like you&#039;re going to still give it to him when he&#039;s *nine* or something.&quot; Because nine would be *way* outside the pale, apparently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Sarah, you rock. I got away from those conversations by going back to work, I swear &#8211; the stay-at-home moms in my neighborhood all have more money than is good for them. Though I do hate the corollary working-mom conversation that goes &#8216; &#8220;I would love to be home with my kids but I just can&#8217;t afford it&#8221; &#8211; from women I know very well could. There shouldn&#8217;t be any shame in saying &#8220;I see my babies 14 hours a day and I am pretty damn grateful to have the other 10 away from them.&#8221; </p>
<p>These articles/discussion just make me think of two conversations I&#8217;ve had with moms.</p>
<p>One was this formerly-homeless woman I met, who  told me her crowning achievement in her life was that she &amp; her girlfriend got custody of all their kids &amp; made them a home where nobody hit them and they could have seconds at dinner if they wanted. </p>
<p>The other is my boyfriend&#8217;s sister, the nurse, who said to me quite seriously, that it was OK for my (underweight) 3-year-old to have whole milk because &#8220;it&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re going to still give it to him when he&#8217;s *nine* or something.&#8221; Because nine would be *way* outside the pale, apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: Emerald</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/06/spare-the-shame-spoil-the-child/#comment-87456</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Grr.

OT, probably, although it is about kids and &#039;bad foods&#039;, but is anyone in the UK as outraged as me about Change4Life&#039;s latest attempt to scare parents?

Eat cake, die young...
http://www.bhf.org.uk/news_and_campaigning/press_office/latest_news__views/childrens_health.aspx

(...and there&#039;s a whole other can of worms about exactly what, now people are living so much longer anyway, constitutes a &#039;premature&#039; death, but I won&#039;t open it here...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grr.</p>
<p>OT, probably, although it is about kids and &#8216;bad foods&#8217;, but is anyone in the UK as outraged as me about Change4Life&#8217;s latest attempt to scare parents?</p>
<p>Eat cake, die young&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.bhf.org.uk/news_and_campaigning/press_office/latest_news__views/childrens_health.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.bhf.org.uk/news_and_campaigning/press_office/latest_news__views/childrens_health.aspx</a></p>
<p>(&#8230;and there&#8217;s a whole other can of worms about exactly what, now people are living so much longer anyway, constitutes a &#8216;premature&#8217; death, but I won&#8217;t open it here&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Orodemniades</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/06/spare-the-shame-spoil-the-child/#comment-87443</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orodemniades]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mother swears we never fought about my weight, ever.  I honestly think that she thinks it&#039;s all in my head...

...and can I just say that if one more person calls my just-turned-one year old last Sunday a &#039;big boy&#039; I&#039;m going to freak the fuck out?  I swear it&#039;s all I can do to mutter &#039;We like him healthy&#039;.  Seriously, he&#039;s a freakin&#039; baby - they&#039;re supposed to be fat!

Meh.

I fear for his future, what with the current hysteria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother swears we never fought about my weight, ever.  I honestly think that she thinks it&#8217;s all in my head&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and can I just say that if one more person calls my just-turned-one year old last Sunday a &#8216;big boy&#8217; I&#8217;m going to freak the fuck out?  I swear it&#8217;s all I can do to mutter &#8216;We like him healthy&#8217;.  Seriously, he&#8217;s a freakin&#8217; baby &#8211; they&#8217;re supposed to be fat!</p>
<p>Meh.</p>
<p>I fear for his future, what with the current hysteria.</p>
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		<title>By: LilahMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LilahMorgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I kind of love twinkies.  I mean, I only eat them every year or so and they are too sweet for me to finish a pack of two but something about the sponge cake and the cream filling totally calls me in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I kind of love twinkies.  I mean, I only eat them every year or so and they are too sweet for me to finish a pack of two but something about the sponge cake and the cream filling totally calls me in.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ack! Sorry! I hit &quot;submit&quot;, it told me there was something wrong with the server, so I wrote a little more, hit &quot;submit&quot; again and now both took. Sorry!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack! Sorry! I hit &#8220;submit&#8221;, it told me there was something wrong with the server, so I wrote a little more, hit &#8220;submit&#8221; again and now both took. Sorry!</p>
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