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		<title>By: Shawnie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/04/forever-21-launching-plus-size-line/#comment-90333</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, When I first heard the news I was a tad bit excited, I wear a 22, while my small(heh) group of friends on the average wears a size 9 or 11. I thought hey, even though most of the stuff in F21 is garbage, I would be able to at least browse with them instead of standing around looking like a big retarded mule dodging the rest of the skinny heffas while they attack the sale racks. But then I saw Juniors 1x and 2x and gave up. I thought I was actually going to be able to go out shopping again on which I gave up on.

I seriously doubt this would do well, I see their competition(or brand mate maybe) Wetseal(.com, of course) has done the same but their sizes go up to a 24, if memory serves. Im a broke 22 year old college student, I have the absolute HARDEST time finding trendy clothing that doesnt break my bank. (side-eye @ Torrid) Yes, there are stores like Dots and Rainbow, but most of the clothing in there is &quot;clubwear&quot;. What the hell. 

Lets just hope more retailers open their eyes and expand their sizing, as well as combine them as well...Im fat remember, why the hell do I have to walk to the back of the store?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, When I first heard the news I was a tad bit excited, I wear a 22, while my small(heh) group of friends on the average wears a size 9 or 11. I thought hey, even though most of the stuff in F21 is garbage, I would be able to at least browse with them instead of standing around looking like a big retarded mule dodging the rest of the skinny heffas while they attack the sale racks. But then I saw Juniors 1x and 2x and gave up. I thought I was actually going to be able to go out shopping again on which I gave up on.</p>
<p>I seriously doubt this would do well, I see their competition(or brand mate maybe) Wetseal(.com, of course) has done the same but their sizes go up to a 24, if memory serves. Im a broke 22 year old college student, I have the absolute HARDEST time finding trendy clothing that doesnt break my bank. (side-eye @ Torrid) Yes, there are stores like Dots and Rainbow, but most of the clothing in there is &#8220;clubwear&#8221;. What the hell. </p>
<p>Lets just hope more retailers open their eyes and expand their sizing, as well as combine them as well&#8230;Im fat remember, why the hell do I have to walk to the back of the store?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Beattie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/04/forever-21-launching-plus-size-line/#comment-89017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amanda Beattie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First time commenter--I am so glad to discover I am not the only woman stuck in the &#039;tweens. I remember being in a department store one time and trying on a size 16 blazer that made me look like a sausage. So I crossed the aisle into the plus department. I found the same jacket, IN THE SAME BRAND, in 16W--it made me look like a baggy sack of potatoes.

I think I ran home in despair immediately afterwards, pretty convinced my frame was just impossible to fit. (I have since gained some more perspective on the whole thing.)

Short story: I am all for making more overlap in sizing, or perhaps more accurately, more variety in shape within the sizes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First time commenter&#8211;I am so glad to discover I am not the only woman stuck in the &#8216;tweens. I remember being in a department store one time and trying on a size 16 blazer that made me look like a sausage. So I crossed the aisle into the plus department. I found the same jacket, IN THE SAME BRAND, in 16W&#8211;it made me look like a baggy sack of potatoes.</p>
<p>I think I ran home in despair immediately afterwards, pretty convinced my frame was just impossible to fit. (I have since gained some more perspective on the whole thing.)</p>
<p>Short story: I am all for making more overlap in sizing, or perhaps more accurately, more variety in shape within the sizes.</p>
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		<title>By: liska02</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG, Sharn:

&quot;God, me too. I remember going shopping for a prom dress with my mom and having a crying-kicking-and-screaming breakdown in the formal wear department of the 10th store that didn’t have a single dress that would FIT MY BODY, much less anything fashionable or flattering. Oh, the joy of being a short fat teenager. &quot;


That was my experience exactly.  Somehow I managed to go to FOUR high school dress-up dances.  I don&#039;t know how my mom lived through it - I remember just dissolving into tears six or seven hours into the process, trying to decide between a spaghetti strap sheath in a size two or a size 22 mother-of-the-bride dress...  At the time I was between a 12 and a 14, very conscious of my arms, and 5&#039;3&quot;.  It was the most depressing thing...

Because of that experience, I started having mini-panic attacks when I got engaged, anticipating wedding dress shopping as a repeat of prom dress shopping...  Luckily I found that there were a lot more options in wedding dresses than prom dresses, but I still had to spend as much in alterations as I did on the dress (the fit model is supposedly 5&#039;9&quot;...  ARGH!).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Sharn:</p>
<p>&#8220;God, me too. I remember going shopping for a prom dress with my mom and having a crying-kicking-and-screaming breakdown in the formal wear department of the 10th store that didn’t have a single dress that would FIT MY BODY, much less anything fashionable or flattering. Oh, the joy of being a short fat teenager. &#8221;</p>
<p>That was my experience exactly.  Somehow I managed to go to FOUR high school dress-up dances.  I don&#8217;t know how my mom lived through it &#8211; I remember just dissolving into tears six or seven hours into the process, trying to decide between a spaghetti strap sheath in a size two or a size 22 mother-of-the-bride dress&#8230;  At the time I was between a 12 and a 14, very conscious of my arms, and 5&#8217;3&#8243;.  It was the most depressing thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Because of that experience, I started having mini-panic attacks when I got engaged, anticipating wedding dress shopping as a repeat of prom dress shopping&#8230;  Luckily I found that there were a lot more options in wedding dresses than prom dresses, but I still had to spend as much in alterations as I did on the dress (the fit model is supposedly 5&#8217;9&#8243;&#8230;  ARGH!).</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/03/04/forever-21-launching-plus-size-line/#comment-87553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to say, on the subject of clothing. I got Apple Bottom brand jeans for my birthday, which was on March 7th. When I tried them on I was like &quot;OMG, THEY FIT! THEY ACTUALLY FIT!!!&quot; None of that cutting into my gut, I get from other jeans. 

I&#039;m so happy! I&#039;ve been literally wearing sweatpants for years, cause I got so tired of trying to find fitting jeans, and was never able to find them. Well okay I also dislike shopping, it bores me. So I imagine that didn&#039;t help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say, on the subject of clothing. I got Apple Bottom brand jeans for my birthday, which was on March 7th. When I tried them on I was like &#8220;OMG, THEY FIT! THEY ACTUALLY FIT!!!&#8221; None of that cutting into my gut, I get from other jeans. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so happy! I&#8217;ve been literally wearing sweatpants for years, cause I got so tired of trying to find fitting jeans, and was never able to find them. Well okay I also dislike shopping, it bores me. So I imagine that didn&#8217;t help.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh THANK YOU for describing so clearly the in-betweenie issue! 

I&#039;m a 16-ish on the bottom and a 14-ish on top (narrow shoulders, small arms, but a 36D/DD rack).  Add in &quot;short-waisted&quot; and &quot;34&quot; inseam&quot; and its a recipe for years of tears when clothing shopping.  

For a long time I could order pants from Lands End, but in their efforts to Get With Teh Trendy, they&#039;ve changed their fit and I&#039;ve been awfully disappointed with my last few orders.  Then this fall I discovered through a friend that LB&#039;s Right Fit stuff fits like I am the fit model it was based on.

Now I tell my mom I can&#039;t lose any weight because I&#039;ll be stuck shopping in those gorram stores where I&#039;m the Fat Chick again.  I know LB has its faults, but going into one for the first time in years and finding things that fit me and were flattering and attractive was .... really, really, nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh THANK YOU for describing so clearly the in-betweenie issue! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a 16-ish on the bottom and a 14-ish on top (narrow shoulders, small arms, but a 36D/DD rack).  Add in &#8220;short-waisted&#8221; and &#8220;34&#8243; inseam&#8221; and its a recipe for years of tears when clothing shopping.  </p>
<p>For a long time I could order pants from Lands End, but in their efforts to Get With Teh Trendy, they&#8217;ve changed their fit and I&#8217;ve been awfully disappointed with my last few orders.  Then this fall I discovered through a friend that LB&#8217;s Right Fit stuff fits like I am the fit model it was based on.</p>
<p>Now I tell my mom I can&#8217;t lose any weight because I&#8217;ll be stuck shopping in those gorram stores where I&#8217;m the Fat Chick again.  I know LB has its faults, but going into one for the first time in years and finding things that fit me and were flattering and attractive was &#8230;. really, really, nice.</p>
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		<title>By: CassandraSays</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Argh, the candy colored petite section! Whose brilliant idea was it to attempt to make all short women dress like Strawberry Shortcake?

And yep, Tropical Chrome, that&#039;s exactly what I meant. Suits are relatively easy to find (though not so much for anyone over a size 18 I think), but where are the clothes that are stylish and dressy but not in a business sense? I mean they exist, but why do they only exist at the really high end designer level? Why do most manufacturers seem to think that &quot;dressing up&quot; means dressing like a teenager going clubbing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh, the candy colored petite section! Whose brilliant idea was it to attempt to make all short women dress like Strawberry Shortcake?</p>
<p>And yep, Tropical Chrome, that&#8217;s exactly what I meant. Suits are relatively easy to find (though not so much for anyone over a size 18 I think), but where are the clothes that are stylish and dressy but not in a business sense? I mean they exist, but why do they only exist at the really high end designer level? Why do most manufacturers seem to think that &#8220;dressing up&#8221; means dressing like a teenager going clubbing?</p>
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		<title>By: TropicalChrome</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TropicalChrome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CassandraSays, yes, I am in the US. I can find ultra-casual clothes, and I can find business formal clothes, but there seems to be precious little in between for when I want to dress up a little socially, but not completely formal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CassandraSays, yes, I am in the US. I can find ultra-casual clothes, and I can find business formal clothes, but there seems to be precious little in between for when I want to dress up a little socially, but not completely formal.</p>
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		<title>By: Aimee_Darling</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aimee_Darling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll *me too* Cassandra and Tropical Chrome.  Adult professional clothing is very difficult to find, but almost impossible if you are short and fat.  I&#039;m 5&#039;2, and I usually wear about a size 18.  And I&#039;m stacked.  Even before I wore plus sizes, it was hard to find suits that were not candy colored and had long sleeves.  Last year, I spent 6 hours in Woodfield mall, which is one of the biggest malls in America, looking for a plain skirted suit suitable for a job interview or formal business occasion.  I finally found one, but it&#039;s not &quot;petite&quot; so I should have the sleeves taken up, but they are acceptable.  

I have recently had good luck finding professional clothing at Lord and Taylor and Carson&#039;s.  Jones New York now has a plus line, and Evan Picone has one too, with suiting separates.  I&#039;ve been able to find pretty cocktail dresses at Nordstrom online, but on the suit expedition, I used the personal shopper there.  Either they didn&#039;t have Jack, or the shopper missed the concept of a Suit suitable for an interview.    There were only badly fitting separates in styles that were not at all acceptable.  

Maybe it&#039;s time to start a regular letter writing campaign to stores demanding  1) uniform sizing and 2)a greater range of clothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll *me too* Cassandra and Tropical Chrome.  Adult professional clothing is very difficult to find, but almost impossible if you are short and fat.  I&#8217;m 5&#8217;2, and I usually wear about a size 18.  And I&#8217;m stacked.  Even before I wore plus sizes, it was hard to find suits that were not candy colored and had long sleeves.  Last year, I spent 6 hours in Woodfield mall, which is one of the biggest malls in America, looking for a plain skirted suit suitable for a job interview or formal business occasion.  I finally found one, but it&#8217;s not &#8220;petite&#8221; so I should have the sleeves taken up, but they are acceptable.  </p>
<p>I have recently had good luck finding professional clothing at Lord and Taylor and Carson&#8217;s.  Jones New York now has a plus line, and Evan Picone has one too, with suiting separates.  I&#8217;ve been able to find pretty cocktail dresses at Nordstrom online, but on the suit expedition, I used the personal shopper there.  Either they didn&#8217;t have Jack, or the shopper missed the concept of a Suit suitable for an interview.    There were only badly fitting separates in styles that were not at all acceptable.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time to start a regular letter writing campaign to stores demanding  1) uniform sizing and 2)a greater range of clothing.</p>
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		<title>By: slythwolf</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on their size chart, I project the following for the &quot;plus&quot; sizes:

XL: 39-40&quot; bust, 31-32&quot; waist, 41-42&quot; hip
1X: 41-42&quot; bust, 33-34&quot; waist, 43-44&quot; hip
2X: 43-44&quot; bust, 35-36&quot; waist, 45-46&quot; hip

Well, it looks like my tall skinny ass* might be able to shop at Forever 21 again. Maybe. If my hips don&#039;t get much bigger. I wear between an 8 and a 12 at places like JCPenney and Fashion Bug, which usually translates to a M or L, depending on the brand. Junior sizes usually put me an an L on the top and an XL on the bottom. At Forever 21 I will be in an XL on the top and a 1X on the bottom. These are not &quot;plus&quot; sizes.

*For some reason a skinny person at 5&#039;8&quot; is wider than a skinny person at 5&#039;2&quot;. Go figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on their size chart, I project the following for the &#8220;plus&#8221; sizes:</p>
<p>XL: 39-40&#8243; bust, 31-32&#8243; waist, 41-42&#8243; hip<br />
1X: 41-42&#8243; bust, 33-34&#8243; waist, 43-44&#8243; hip<br />
2X: 43-44&#8243; bust, 35-36&#8243; waist, 45-46&#8243; hip</p>
<p>Well, it looks like my tall skinny ass* might be able to shop at Forever 21 again. Maybe. If my hips don&#8217;t get much bigger. I wear between an 8 and a 12 at places like JCPenney and Fashion Bug, which usually translates to a M or L, depending on the brand. Junior sizes usually put me an an L on the top and an XL on the bottom. At Forever 21 I will be in an XL on the top and a 1X on the bottom. These are not &#8220;plus&#8221; sizes.</p>
<p>*For some reason a skinny person at 5&#8217;8&#8243; is wider than a skinny person at 5&#8217;2&#8243;. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel as if short and fat are not allowed to exist together.  As if by being 5&#039;0&quot; tall I have some extra need to be petite, tiny and &quot;feminine&quot;.   I just feel sometimes if the world is shouting &quot;If you were supposed to be big, you would not be so fucking short.&quot;  

I find the whole plus-size petite to be ridiculously named.  I am not &quot;petite&quot; I am short; if being called fat does not offend me then labeling the length of my pants short really is not going to drive me away.  Also &quot;petite&quot; length is not nearly short enough for my 24&quot; inseam.  I find myself buying cropped pants just to get away without hemming.  

My shopping fantasy is a store with a section labeled SHORT and FAT.  Not a single item of clothing would be hung above my head.  The racks would be far enough apart for my ample ass and hips.  And there would be attractive black slacks made for my short, fat legs. Long sleeves would not come past the tips of my fingers and short sleeve would not be down to my elbow.  I could on and on...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel as if short and fat are not allowed to exist together.  As if by being 5&#8217;0&#8243; tall I have some extra need to be petite, tiny and &#8220;feminine&#8221;.   I just feel sometimes if the world is shouting &#8220;If you were supposed to be big, you would not be so fucking short.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I find the whole plus-size petite to be ridiculously named.  I am not &#8220;petite&#8221; I am short; if being called fat does not offend me then labeling the length of my pants short really is not going to drive me away.  Also &#8220;petite&#8221; length is not nearly short enough for my 24&#8243; inseam.  I find myself buying cropped pants just to get away without hemming.  </p>
<p>My shopping fantasy is a store with a section labeled SHORT and FAT.  Not a single item of clothing would be hung above my head.  The racks would be far enough apart for my ample ass and hips.  And there would be attractive black slacks made for my short, fat legs. Long sleeves would not come past the tips of my fingers and short sleeve would not be down to my elbow.  I could on and on&#8230;</p>
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