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		<title>By: maryheil</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-88735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maryheil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sharmax, 230 is a perfectly normal cholesterol reading.  730 is not.  

There is no non-random link between 230 cholesterol readings and any negative health measure, while 730 is a reading that nobody who has not inherited a familial type of extremely elevated cholesterol will have to worry about.  Trust me, you would KNOW if truly high cholesterol (above 500) runs in your family.  Furthermore, there&#039;s no good evidence that diet and exercise have much effect on cholesterol in most people.

Pharmaceutical company funded researchers drastically lowered several time tested &quot;health measures&quot; about a decade ago:  blood pressure, cholesterol, blood glucose levels and BMI.  The current ranges reflect the levels in healthy 18 year old men, not healthy middle aged men, and don&#039;t reflect women&#039;s numbers at all, healthy or not.  

All of these measure increase naturally with age.  What&#039;s more, the statins used to &quot;treat&quot; the 230 count cholesterol lowers the cholesterol but has no impact on actual medical outcomes such as heart disease and stroke.  Likely because a cholesterol of 230 has no relationship to the incidence of strokes and heart attacks.

Don&#039;t worry.  :)   And certainly think hard about whether to take a medication that will not decrease your risk of any disease, but does have potentially harmful side effects.  Let me know if you&#039;d like research findings.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharmax, 230 is a perfectly normal cholesterol reading.  730 is not.  </p>
<p>There is no non-random link between 230 cholesterol readings and any negative health measure, while 730 is a reading that nobody who has not inherited a familial type of extremely elevated cholesterol will have to worry about.  Trust me, you would KNOW if truly high cholesterol (above 500) runs in your family.  Furthermore, there&#8217;s no good evidence that diet and exercise have much effect on cholesterol in most people.</p>
<p>Pharmaceutical company funded researchers drastically lowered several time tested &#8220;health measures&#8221; about a decade ago:  blood pressure, cholesterol, blood glucose levels and BMI.  The current ranges reflect the levels in healthy 18 year old men, not healthy middle aged men, and don&#8217;t reflect women&#8217;s numbers at all, healthy or not.  </p>
<p>All of these measure increase naturally with age.  What&#8217;s more, the statins used to &#8220;treat&#8221; the 230 count cholesterol lowers the cholesterol but has no impact on actual medical outcomes such as heart disease and stroke.  Likely because a cholesterol of 230 has no relationship to the incidence of strokes and heart attacks.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry.  :)   And certainly think hard about whether to take a medication that will not decrease your risk of any disease, but does have potentially harmful side effects.  Let me know if you&#8217;d like research findings.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Curvygirl</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-87001</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curvygirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi queen_of_sheba  I&#039;m still struggling with HAES and the mad stuff in my head around weight and diet.  But going out and having fun definitely sounds like a good idea! x]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi queen_of_sheba  I&#8217;m still struggling with HAES and the mad stuff in my head around weight and diet.  But going out and having fun definitely sounds like a good idea! x</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Stardust</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacey Stardust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m very late in adding to the comment thread, because I didn&#039;t feel I had anything useful or new to say, but I just found out how the Dutch Center for Nutrition has reported on this study (translation below, but because I know this blog has some Dutch readers, I&#039;m also including the original text): 

&quot;Het maakt niet uit welk dieet je volgt om af te vallen. Het gaat erom dat je minder calorieën binnenkrijgt. Dit blijkt uit een onlangs verschenen onderzoek. Het Voedingscentrum onderschrijft dat het ook om gedragsverandering gaat. Mensen vallen met een dieet gemiddeld zes kilo af in een half jaar, maar worden in de tijd erna weer dikker. Je hebt doorzettingsvermogen, discipline en stimulans vanuit de omgeving nodig om op gezond gewicht te komen en te blijven.&quot;

or, 

&quot;It doesn&#039;t matter which diet you choose to lose weight - what matters is that you take in fewer calories, a recent study shows. The Center for Nutrition wants to emphasize that a change in behavior is equally important. Dieters tend to lose about six kilos in six months, but become fatter again afterwards. It takes determination, self-discipline and encouragement from the people around you to achieve and maintain a healthy weight.&quot;

Umm. What does the study say about behavioral changes? And does it actually say that &quot;determination, self-discipline and encouragement from the people around you&quot; will help avoid the dreaded re-gaining of weight? If not, then WTF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very late in adding to the comment thread, because I didn&#8217;t feel I had anything useful or new to say, but I just found out how the Dutch Center for Nutrition has reported on this study (translation below, but because I know this blog has some Dutch readers, I&#8217;m also including the original text): </p>
<p>&#8220;Het maakt niet uit welk dieet je volgt om af te vallen. Het gaat erom dat je minder calorieën binnenkrijgt. Dit blijkt uit een onlangs verschenen onderzoek. Het Voedingscentrum onderschrijft dat het ook om gedragsverandering gaat. Mensen vallen met een dieet gemiddeld zes kilo af in een half jaar, maar worden in de tijd erna weer dikker. Je hebt doorzettingsvermogen, discipline en stimulans vanuit de omgeving nodig om op gezond gewicht te komen en te blijven.&#8221;</p>
<p>or, </p>
<p>&#8220;It doesn&#8217;t matter which diet you choose to lose weight &#8211; what matters is that you take in fewer calories, a recent study shows. The Center for Nutrition wants to emphasize that a change in behavior is equally important. Dieters tend to lose about six kilos in six months, but become fatter again afterwards. It takes determination, self-discipline and encouragement from the people around you to achieve and maintain a healthy weight.&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm. What does the study say about behavioral changes? And does it actually say that &#8220;determination, self-discipline and encouragement from the people around you&#8221; will help avoid the dreaded re-gaining of weight? If not, then WTF.</p>
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		<title>By: Bluefish</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-86812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bluefish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ostara - I may need to make a sampler based on what you said above:

I have the same body I did 20 years ago.
It just looks a little different.


That totally speaks to me today!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ostara &#8211; I may need to make a sampler based on what you said above:</p>
<p>I have the same body I did 20 years ago.<br />
It just looks a little different.</p>
<p>That totally speaks to me today!</p>
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		<title>By: queen_of_sheba</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-86750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[queen_of_sheba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey curvygirl, I&#039;m getting married in August too!  Also trying to figure out if I want to lose weight (I am in the upper end of my range) and wondering, what would HAES say about being upper-end and not liking it?  Probably something like &quot;then get off your bum and go do something fun&quot;, yes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey curvygirl, I&#8217;m getting married in August too!  Also trying to figure out if I want to lose weight (I am in the upper end of my range) and wondering, what would HAES say about being upper-end and not liking it?  Probably something like &#8220;then get off your bum and go do something fun&#8221;, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: sharmax</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-86740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sharmax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I am new to this website but love it. I love the whole concept of the HAES and hope to become more comfortable with myself and size. I have struggled with an eating disorder of most of my life, and was severly anorexic as a teenager.  I am in my mid 40&#039;s now and weigh more then I ever have, in the over weight range, but have finally become comfortable at this weight range. I have maintained this size for the last 5 years.

I still struggle with the bad food and good food concept and when I&#039;m eating &quot;good food&quot;, seem to have more control of how much I eat. My cholesterol is a little high 230 and my Dr. keeps saying to continue to eat right and exercise, which I transelate into you need to lose some weight. He hasn&#039;t said this but has hinted at it. This has spiraled me backwards ,thinking I have to lose weight, trying to eat better and ended up binging on &quot;Bad food&quot; last week.  I don&#039;t really think my cholesterol level is high because of my weight but I do weigh more, I am older, and suddenly have high cholesterol. 
I do try to make healthier food choices, but do not believe in dieting! I am not invested in losing weight either, but should I be concerned over my cholesterol??

Thanks,
sharmax]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am new to this website but love it. I love the whole concept of the HAES and hope to become more comfortable with myself and size. I have struggled with an eating disorder of most of my life, and was severly anorexic as a teenager.  I am in my mid 40&#8242;s now and weigh more then I ever have, in the over weight range, but have finally become comfortable at this weight range. I have maintained this size for the last 5 years.</p>
<p>I still struggle with the bad food and good food concept and when I&#8217;m eating &#8220;good food&#8221;, seem to have more control of how much I eat. My cholesterol is a little high 230 and my Dr. keeps saying to continue to eat right and exercise, which I transelate into you need to lose some weight. He hasn&#8217;t said this but has hinted at it. This has spiraled me backwards ,thinking I have to lose weight, trying to eat better and ended up binging on &#8220;Bad food&#8221; last week.  I don&#8217;t really think my cholesterol level is high because of my weight but I do weigh more, I am older, and suddenly have high cholesterol.<br />
I do try to make healthier food choices, but do not believe in dieting! I am not invested in losing weight either, but should I be concerned over my cholesterol??</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
sharmax</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-86716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“White-coat hypertension” (the fact that some people get stressed around doctors so their blood pressure measures higher than it is in reality) is a recognised fucking concept in the medical community!&lt;/i&gt;

Our internist sent my stepfather home with a sphygmomanometer (I know i screwed that up - a blood pressure taking doowacky) because his BP was off the charts whenever he was in the office, after the drive and the being at the doctor.  Lo and behold, when he&#039;s home, it&#039;s perfect over perfect.

Mine&#039;s always elevated at the doctor&#039;s, &#039;cause I HATE the effing drive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“White-coat hypertension” (the fact that some people get stressed around doctors so their blood pressure measures higher than it is in reality) is a recognised fucking concept in the medical community!</i></p>
<p>Our internist sent my stepfather home with a sphygmomanometer (I know i screwed that up &#8211; a blood pressure taking doowacky) because his BP was off the charts whenever he was in the office, after the drive and the being at the doctor.  Lo and behold, when he&#8217;s home, it&#8217;s perfect over perfect.</p>
<p>Mine&#8217;s always elevated at the doctor&#8217;s, &#8217;cause I HATE the effing drive.</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-86714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fillyjonk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;UK 16-18 (US 20-22?)&lt;/i&gt;

More like US 14-16, maybe 12-14 -- it goes the other way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>UK 16-18 (US 20-22?)</i></p>
<p>More like US 14-16, maybe 12-14 &#8212; it goes the other way.</p>
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		<title>By: Curvygirl</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/26/all-diets-work-the-same-poorly/#comment-86694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curvygirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually love you guys.  This week, I have been obsessing about losing weight for my August wedding.  It should be the happiest time of my life, planning to marry the man of my love.  But my head tells me I need to get down from my current UK 16-18 (US 20-22?) at 5ft2 to something more &#039;acceptable&#039; to society, and so I can look good in an ivory frock.

I even considered spending thousands on a low-calorie diet &#039;that would work&#039;. 

Not because my hubby-to-be thinks I need to be thinner - but because of comments by others and this stupid society.  MIL last week - we were at a show.  Me &#039;Let&#039;s buy some sweets&#039;, her &#039;No, they&#039;re FATTENING.  She makes gibes about my weight from time to time, and it&#039;s very unpleasant and unhelpful.  And treating me like I can&#039;t choose what I eat because I am OMG FAT is horrible.  (Only thin people can be trusted to choose their own food - FACT)

Sorry, rambling on.  Fantine, I often fantasise about what I could say to people who mention my weight.  On this site I found &#039;How rude of you to say so.  Aren&#039;t you ashamed of yourself?&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually love you guys.  This week, I have been obsessing about losing weight for my August wedding.  It should be the happiest time of my life, planning to marry the man of my love.  But my head tells me I need to get down from my current UK 16-18 (US 20-22?) at 5ft2 to something more &#8216;acceptable&#8217; to society, and so I can look good in an ivory frock.</p>
<p>I even considered spending thousands on a low-calorie diet &#8216;that would work&#8217;. </p>
<p>Not because my hubby-to-be thinks I need to be thinner &#8211; but because of comments by others and this stupid society.  MIL last week &#8211; we were at a show.  Me &#8216;Let&#8217;s buy some sweets&#8217;, her &#8216;No, they&#8217;re FATTENING.  She makes gibes about my weight from time to time, and it&#8217;s very unpleasant and unhelpful.  And treating me like I can&#8217;t choose what I eat because I am OMG FAT is horrible.  (Only thin people can be trusted to choose their own food &#8211; FACT)</p>
<p>Sorry, rambling on.  Fantine, I often fantasise about what I could say to people who mention my weight.  On this site I found &#8216;How rude of you to say so.  Aren&#8217;t you ashamed of yourself?&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fantine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fantine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The friend I mentioned above was told, by an actual medical doctor, that “Even if you had a train rushing towards you, your blood pressure shouldn’t go up.” You cannot make that sort of idiocy up.&lt;/i&gt;

I have a little fantasy going on in my head about what I would say if a doctor said that to me.  It goes something like this: &quot;That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard, and you, sir (or madam), are fired.&quot;  Followed by a bright smile, walking out of the office, and refusing to pay any bill they dared send me.

I&#039;m constantly making up comebacks like that in my head now, hoping to avoid staircase wit, I guess.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The friend I mentioned above was told, by an actual medical doctor, that “Even if you had a train rushing towards you, your blood pressure shouldn’t go up.” You cannot make that sort of idiocy up.</i></p>
<p>I have a little fantasy going on in my head about what I would say if a doctor said that to me.  It goes something like this: &#8220;That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard, and you, sir (or madam), are fired.&#8221;  Followed by a bright smile, walking out of the office, and refusing to pay any bill they dared send me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m constantly making up comebacks like that in my head now, hoping to avoid staircase wit, I guess.</p>
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