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		<title>By: Godless Heathen</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Godless Heathen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was thinking about this, for those parents who wanted good shows that discuss disability in a real way, I recommend Clifford the Big Red Dog and George Shrinks.  Clifford has several disabled people in the show, and George Shrinks, being about a boy who is 6 inches tall, frequently deals with how environments have to be altered to accommodate different people.  Neither show beats kids over the head with &quot;special messages&quot;, both do a good job of showing differences in ability as normal parts of life.  (Though George Shrink&#039;s family is...atypical.  &quot;Well off&quot; might be another good way of putting it.  I honestly don&#039;t know where they get the money.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about this, for those parents who wanted good shows that discuss disability in a real way, I recommend Clifford the Big Red Dog and George Shrinks.  Clifford has several disabled people in the show, and George Shrinks, being about a boy who is 6 inches tall, frequently deals with how environments have to be altered to accommodate different people.  Neither show beats kids over the head with &#8220;special messages&#8221;, both do a good job of showing differences in ability as normal parts of life.  (Though George Shrink&#8217;s family is&#8230;atypical.  &#8220;Well off&#8221; might be another good way of putting it.  I honestly don&#8217;t know where they get the money.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ailbhe</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86628</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, don&#039;t worry, my kid will have nightmares. I make sure of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t worry, my kid will have nightmares. I make sure of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Harding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86622</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Harding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My god, Ailbhe, you mean she didn&#039;t FREAK OUT AND START CRYING INCONSOLABLY? She&#039;s not going to have NIGHTMARES until she&#039;s 40? How&#039;d you get such a jaded 4-year-old?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My god, Ailbhe, you mean she didn&#8217;t FREAK OUT AND START CRYING INCONSOLABLY? She&#8217;s not going to have NIGHTMARES until she&#8217;s 40? How&#8217;d you get such a jaded 4-year-old?</p>
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		<title>By: Ailbhe</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86621</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ailbhe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally gave up waiting for her to commentand asked my 4-year-old outright; &quot;See that lady? with one hand? Some grownups think she shouldn&#039;t be on telly because she might scare children. Is she scary?&quot;

She put on her best &quot;Duh-you&#039;re-an-idiot-stop-bugging-me&quot; voice and said &quot;No, she can still do things with her OTHER HAND. Get out of the way, I can&#039;t see.&quot;

I bet money those parents made that &quot;scary&quot; shit up from whole cloth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally gave up waiting for her to commentand asked my 4-year-old outright; &#8220;See that lady? with one hand? Some grownups think she shouldn&#8217;t be on telly because she might scare children. Is she scary?&#8221;</p>
<p>She put on her best &#8220;Duh-you&#8217;re-an-idiot-stop-bugging-me&#8221; voice and said &#8220;No, she can still do things with her OTHER HAND. Get out of the way, I can&#8217;t see.&#8221;</p>
<p>I bet money those parents made that &#8220;scary&#8221; shit up from whole cloth.</p>
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		<title>By: monkey</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Az, Yeah I do get that you weren&#039;t saying anything against people who &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; have impairments.  
I&#039;m just trying to get at something a bit more subtle in terms of the stigma that gets attached to having a disability.

FTR, I agree with most of the rest of your points, and I do think it&#039;s a really interesting perspective to look at this particular situation from, in terms of the fact that this is all about perception and looks, and really has absolutely nothing to do with what this particular person can or can&#039;t do or how she self-identifies (b/c maybe she does identify as &quot;disabled&quot;, I don&#039;t know).

&lt;i&gt;Maybe if we used a word that didn’t mean “lacking in ability” it would help with that stereotype.&lt;/i&gt;
I can see this as problematic, I personally take my cues from activists/writers/bloggers/etc. who are themselves disabled, and seem to prefer that term at current.  The thing is, though, that even if someone &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; &quot;lacking in ability&quot; in whatever form, that &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t give some stranger the right to assume that person needs help.

 But really, this is why I like the social model of disability, which puts the blame for the lack of being able to do something squarely on the physical and social environment that is not accommodating enough of people whose bodies or brains work in a variety of ways.  (MissPrism, upthread,  linked to a post on this for anyone who&#039;s reading this and has no clue what I&#039;m talking about.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Az, Yeah I do get that you weren&#8217;t saying anything against people who <i>do</i> have impairments.<br />
I&#8217;m just trying to get at something a bit more subtle in terms of the stigma that gets attached to having a disability.</p>
<p>FTR, I agree with most of the rest of your points, and I do think it&#8217;s a really interesting perspective to look at this particular situation from, in terms of the fact that this is all about perception and looks, and really has absolutely nothing to do with what this particular person can or can&#8217;t do or how she self-identifies (b/c maybe she does identify as &#8220;disabled&#8221;, I don&#8217;t know).</p>
<p><i>Maybe if we used a word that didn’t mean “lacking in ability” it would help with that stereotype.</i><br />
I can see this as problematic, I personally take my cues from activists/writers/bloggers/etc. who are themselves disabled, and seem to prefer that term at current.  The thing is, though, that even if someone <i>is</i> &#8220;lacking in ability&#8221; in whatever form, that <i>still</i> doesn&#8217;t give some stranger the right to assume that person needs help.</p>
<p> But really, this is why I like the social model of disability, which puts the blame for the lack of being able to do something squarely on the physical and social environment that is not accommodating enough of people whose bodies or brains work in a variety of ways.  (MissPrism, upthread,  linked to a post on this for anyone who&#8217;s reading this and has no clue what I&#8217;m talking about.)</p>
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		<title>By: Az</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86422</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Az]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;After all, the “disabled”=”needs help” association is still a negative one that goes beyond “we reject this label”, and enforces certain stereotypes.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe if we used a word that didn&#039;t mean &quot;lacking in ability&quot; it would help with that stereotype.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>After all, the “disabled”=”needs help” association is still a negative one that goes beyond “we reject this label”, and enforces certain stereotypes.</i></p>
<p>Maybe if we used a word that didn&#8217;t mean &#8220;lacking in ability&#8221; it would help with that stereotype.</p>
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		<title>By: Az</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86415</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Az]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monkey, I wasn&#039;t saying anything against people who have things they cannot do. I think it does not apply in this situation because what people are objecting to is what she looks like, not what she might be able to do or not do. 

I also think that telling people they cannot do the things people who might be built differently can do is limiting. It&#039;s sort of the same thing as telling a fat person that they cannot surf because they are fat. Maybe they can, but they won&#039;t try because of what they were told. 

I agree that if someone actually does not have the ability to surf (or anything else), they should not be thought any less of or discriminated against. But I don&#039;t think it applies in this particular situation, and I think it&#039;s damaging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkey, I wasn&#8217;t saying anything against people who have things they cannot do. I think it does not apply in this situation because what people are objecting to is what she looks like, not what she might be able to do or not do. </p>
<p>I also think that telling people they cannot do the things people who might be built differently can do is limiting. It&#8217;s sort of the same thing as telling a fat person that they cannot surf because they are fat. Maybe they can, but they won&#8217;t try because of what they were told. </p>
<p>I agree that if someone actually does not have the ability to surf (or anything else), they should not be thought any less of or discriminated against. But I don&#8217;t think it applies in this particular situation, and I think it&#8217;s damaging.</p>
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		<title>By: pacificyorkshirebird</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86374</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pacificyorkshirebird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi - Great post.  This is my first visit to your blog and I look forward to reading more.  I think I could learn a lot here.  

I agree with you that British people use &quot;properly&quot; much more casually than Americans.  I also think the British news headlines are even more sensational and insensitive than the American headlines.  

If you are interested in some further observations about the cultural differences between the USA and UK - we blog about this all the time.  We have even dabbled a bit in feminism and political correctness.  Like you, we are three gals blogging together.

http://shesnotfromyorkshire.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; Great post.  This is my first visit to your blog and I look forward to reading more.  I think I could learn a lot here.  </p>
<p>I agree with you that British people use &#8220;properly&#8221; much more casually than Americans.  I also think the British news headlines are even more sensational and insensitive than the American headlines.  </p>
<p>If you are interested in some further observations about the cultural differences between the USA and UK &#8211; we blog about this all the time.  We have even dabbled a bit in feminism and political correctness.  Like you, we are three gals blogging together.</p>
<p><a href="http://shesnotfromyorkshire.com/" rel="nofollow">http://shesnotfromyorkshire.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jln</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86364</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt; I don’t mean to speak for her, but I got the impression that her family was rejecting the label “disabled” as well as the in-person concern-trolling.&lt;/i&gt; 

Lee, I don&#039;t think that negates the point that monkey was making.  After all, the &quot;disabled&quot;=&quot;needs help&quot; association is still a negative one that goes beyond &quot;we reject this label&quot;, and enforces certain stereotypes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> I don’t mean to speak for her, but I got the impression that her family was rejecting the label “disabled” as well as the in-person concern-trolling.</i> </p>
<p>Lee, I don&#8217;t think that negates the point that monkey was making.  After all, the &#8220;disabled&#8221;=&#8221;needs help&#8221; association is still a negative one that goes beyond &#8220;we reject this label&#8221;, and enforces certain stereotypes.</p>
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		<title>By: Aurora B</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2009/02/24/whats-up-my-ass-today/#comment-86338</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aurora B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Sarah--I know this is a bit late, but hoping you see it.  In my experience, &quot;receiving services&quot; can also mean receiving mobile therapy and TSS (therapeutic staff specialist) help, based on what the child/teen needs.  Not sure if that was the case in the group you were talking about.  HTH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Sarah&#8211;I know this is a bit late, but hoping you see it.  In my experience, &#8220;receiving services&#8221; can also mean receiving mobile therapy and TSS (therapeutic staff specialist) help, based on what the child/teen needs.  Not sure if that was the case in the group you were talking about.  HTH.</p>
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