My aunt was the same when I came out to her. She’s 60+ years old, lived with her parents her whole life, comes from a conservative country where the social politics haven’t left the 16th century, didn’t know anyone who was gay, and is properly Catholic with all that entails. I told her first out of anyone in my family and her FIRST response was, “You know I love you anyway, right?” And I told her first BECAUSE I knew she would put her religion aside to accept me, because she loves me that much. It’s not like she’s thrilled about it, but it’s part of me so that’s it. And now gay marriage isn’t an issue she can automatically be against anymore, because it’s an issue that’s about me. This is how we change things.

OB fat acceptance: I’m the heaviest I’ve ever been, and I looked at myself in the mirror this morning and thought “Damn, I look good.” And I was looking at old photos where I was 30lb lighter and I was like, “I can see that I’m thinner, but…I don’t think I look any better than I do now?” I think I might actually look worse, because I hadn’t learned to dress myself or cut my hair right at that point. FA has infiltrated my braaaaain. And I love it.

And, as I read elsewhere, apparently in the opinion that legalised gay marriage in CA the judges said that there were two ways to bring the situation in California in line with the section of the constitution banning discrimination on the basis of sex, and allowing same-sex marriage was the least disruptive. Now that option’s (provisionally) gone they may have to do the other — getting rid of marriage altogther so EVERYONE’S on civil partnerships, and the straights can find out just how “separate but equal” actually works.

I would lol and lol, and lol and lol.

if we’re arguing over the label MARRIAGE being a religious term, then at the state level, all marriages should be civil unions, and your religious institution can call it Bob for all the law should care. As a nonthiest, by their logic, i shouldnt be allowed to get married either, even though i’m heterosexual.

ALSO? the propaganda on the pro-prop8 website is just rediculous:
[voting for prop8] protects our children from being taught in public schools that “same-sex marriage” is the same as traditional marriage, and prevents other consequences to Californians who will be forced to not just be tolerant of gay lifestyles, but face mandatory compliance regardless of their personal beliefs.

HOMG WE MIGHT HAVE TO ACCEPT TEH GHEYS AS PEOPLES INSTEAD OF MERELY TOLERATING THEIR EXISTANCE. we may have to teach our children that they exist! dogs and cats living together! MASS HYSTERIA.

that’s all i got >.< PEACE.

but this sounds like… painful madness. And the following is just a flight of fantasy: cannot the United Nations just declare it a universal human right… that anyone can marry the person of their choice… can’t we just make that true for all HUMANS, across the board?

They could try, yes, but most likely one of two things would happen: it would be vetoed by one of the five founding nations, or it would be promptly ignored by the more conservative parts of the USA, until such time as an amendment mandating such rights was made to the federal consitution.

And that would be a very big fish to fry, indeed.

2 or 3 amendments that had been slated for the ballot got struck down by FL’s Supreme Court in September for being unconstitutional. Amendment 2 made it through. I just don’t know. Maybe it can be appealed in higher court?

@Rotund: I just checked the Alachua county results, and yeah. Right in line with the state’s. Gobsmacked again.

My husband says that if folks are really concerned about the sanctity of marriage, they need to start by attacking those dirty, dirty divorcées. :-p