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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72375</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marymette, this isn&#039;t a girl crush, but I am genuinely attracted more to men who are heavier

After noticing this guy I was already into has a belly, I began to dig him even more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marymette, this isn&#8217;t a girl crush, but I am genuinely attracted more to men who are heavier</p>
<p>After noticing this guy I was already into has a belly, I began to dig him even more.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72203</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, since this is an open thread...

I normally like the Office, if I can stand the awkward discomfort of watching people say the absolute wrong thing all the time. I&#039;m concerned I might not be able to take it tonight, though, since apparently the premiere is about a company-wide weight loss program.

Ugh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, since this is an open thread&#8230;</p>
<p>I normally like the Office, if I can stand the awkward discomfort of watching people say the absolute wrong thing all the time. I&#8217;m concerned I might not be able to take it tonight, though, since apparently the premiere is about a company-wide weight loss program.</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: mermaidfarts</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72113</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tina fey , along with jennifer aniston, also has been noted saying she hates her &#039;fat, greek ass&#039;. i guess bothof the actresses are of greek heritage &amp; they really seem to loath that part of themselves &amp; blame it for supposedly having wider hips?  i find this really ugly. you dont hear jennifer lopez speaking about her butt &amp; her heritage in that ugly way, &amp; right on for her.
and jesus, if aniston isnt the unattainable hollywood standard, who is? i doubt it has anything to do with being greek or not.

all in all, i really would like to be able to watch 30Rock &amp; not be smacked in the face with the dead fish that is the whole desperate-self-loathing-aging-woman trope. like someone said, it&#039;s the same old same-old, &amp; im sick of it.  there&#039;s plenty of humor to be mined without going there, yet again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tina fey , along with jennifer aniston, also has been noted saying she hates her &#8216;fat, greek ass&#8217;. i guess bothof the actresses are of greek heritage &amp; they really seem to loath that part of themselves &amp; blame it for supposedly having wider hips?  i find this really ugly. you dont hear jennifer lopez speaking about her butt &amp; her heritage in that ugly way, &amp; right on for her.<br />
and jesus, if aniston isnt the unattainable hollywood standard, who is? i doubt it has anything to do with being greek or not.</p>
<p>all in all, i really would like to be able to watch 30Rock &amp; not be smacked in the face with the dead fish that is the whole desperate-self-loathing-aging-woman trope. like someone said, it&#8217;s the same old same-old, &amp; im sick of it.  there&#8217;s plenty of humor to be mined without going there, yet again.</p>
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		<title>By: Inanna</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72097</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inanna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@marymette: I&#039;m bisexual, and I know one thing that helped my FA and body acceptance &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt; was realizing that the women I was attracted to were built an awful lot like me. 

Tina Fey did an interview for Bust magazine several years ago where she talked about having to lose weight in order to get screen time. She was quite self-aware about it, critical of the standard, and accepting of the irony that she bought into the standard so she could succeed in her chosen field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@marymette: I&#8217;m bisexual, and I know one thing that helped my FA and body acceptance <em>a lot</em> was realizing that the women I was attracted to were built an awful lot like me. </p>
<p>Tina Fey did an interview for Bust magazine several years ago where she talked about having to lose weight in order to get screen time. She was quite self-aware about it, critical of the standard, and accepting of the irony that she bought into the standard so she could succeed in her chosen field.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72088</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’ve learned to appreciate the way I look from the front, but every time I turn in the mirror and see my profile, I still feel shame and dismay and maybe even a little fear&lt;/i&gt;

I can totally relate to this! I seem to carry weight more in a front and back way and less in awidth way. So when I look in the mirror from the front, I think &quot;ya know, I look kind of thing and curvy&quot;. Then I turn to the side and it&#039;s like &quot;shit where did all &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; come from?
I&#039;m one of those women in cartoons fooling men by looking all hot from the back and then turning and- surprise! fat! (not that I really look skinny skinny from front of back, but I always think of those scenes when I catch a glimpse of myself from the side in a mirror)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve learned to appreciate the way I look from the front, but every time I turn in the mirror and see my profile, I still feel shame and dismay and maybe even a little fear</i></p>
<p>I can totally relate to this! I seem to carry weight more in a front and back way and less in awidth way. So when I look in the mirror from the front, I think &#8220;ya know, I look kind of thing and curvy&#8221;. Then I turn to the side and it&#8217;s like &#8220;shit where did all <i>that</i> come from?<br />
I&#8217;m one of those women in cartoons fooling men by looking all hot from the back and then turning and- surprise! fat! (not that I really look skinny skinny from front of back, but I always think of those scenes when I catch a glimpse of myself from the side in a mirror)</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72081</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve been picked up by Jezebel, Kate. Not sure if that&#039;s good or bad, but their blogger disagrees with you: http://jezebel.com/5054291/why-tina-feys-self+deprecation-is-good-for-women. The headline alone makes me wary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve been picked up by Jezebel, Kate. Not sure if that&#8217;s good or bad, but their blogger disagrees with you: <a href="http://jezebel.com/5054291/why-tina-feys-self+deprecation-is-good-for-women" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/5054291/why-tina-feys-self+deprecation-is-good-for-women</a>. The headline alone makes me wary.</p>
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		<title>By: MsFeasance</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72047</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MsFeasance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shapelings, this is depressing the hell out of me:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20080924.NE34841&amp;show_article=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Number of Websites Promoting Anorexia and Bulimia Increases 470% since 2006.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shapelings, this is depressing the hell out of me:<br />
<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20080924.NE34841&amp;show_article=1" rel="nofollow">Number of Websites Promoting Anorexia and Bulimia Increases 470% since 2006.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bree</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bree]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dawn French is all kinds of win. It&#039;s too bad she&#039;s experiencing the UK&#039;s current fat hate, being dropped as the spokeswoman for those chocolate oranges in favor of Leona Lewis, who is closer to the &quot;beauty ideal&quot; in terms of weight. We can&#039;t have truly fat people advertise food products you know, because it looks like we&#039;re encouraging obesity. 

There really aren&#039;t a whole lot of women as big as Dawn in the media to represent other super-sized gals like me. I remember when &lt;i&gt;What&#039;s Eating Gilbert Grape&lt;/i&gt; came out and the media was all over Darlene Cates, because of her size. Apparently this was her first acting role, and the media was astounded that a very fat unknown was casted as Gilbert&#039;s mom, instead of using a conventionally pretty actress and sticking her in a fat suit. And while Darlene did play a pretty pathetic character, you&#039;ve got to give some credit that they actually used a real fat woman in the movie. If WEGG were made today, they&#039;d probably stick Susan Sarandon in a fat suit, or go with a larger but not 3X and up actress, like Kathy Bates. 

There was one actress in the 80s who did quite a bit of TV shows, but she was usually casted as a mouthy secretary or a similar role. Her name was Susan Moretz, and she was, for the decade, a pretty big woman. I always liked her for some reason.  Roseanne, when she first started out, was awesome, until her show went downhill along with her brain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn French is all kinds of win. It&#8217;s too bad she&#8217;s experiencing the UK&#8217;s current fat hate, being dropped as the spokeswoman for those chocolate oranges in favor of Leona Lewis, who is closer to the &#8220;beauty ideal&#8221; in terms of weight. We can&#8217;t have truly fat people advertise food products you know, because it looks like we&#8217;re encouraging obesity. </p>
<p>There really aren&#8217;t a whole lot of women as big as Dawn in the media to represent other super-sized gals like me. I remember when <i>What&#8217;s Eating Gilbert Grape</i> came out and the media was all over Darlene Cates, because of her size. Apparently this was her first acting role, and the media was astounded that a very fat unknown was casted as Gilbert&#8217;s mom, instead of using a conventionally pretty actress and sticking her in a fat suit. And while Darlene did play a pretty pathetic character, you&#8217;ve got to give some credit that they actually used a real fat woman in the movie. If WEGG were made today, they&#8217;d probably stick Susan Sarandon in a fat suit, or go with a larger but not 3X and up actress, like Kathy Bates. </p>
<p>There was one actress in the 80s who did quite a bit of TV shows, but she was usually casted as a mouthy secretary or a similar role. Her name was Susan Moretz, and she was, for the decade, a pretty big woman. I always liked her for some reason.  Roseanne, when she first started out, was awesome, until her show went downhill along with her brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Viv</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always had a thing for Kevin James &quot;King of Queens&quot; and those dudes in the MetRx &quot;World &#039;sStrongest Man Competition&quot;. 
Bodybuilder physiques, they don&#039;t have but I really like that muscle with some meat look.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had a thing for Kevin James &#8220;King of Queens&#8221; and those dudes in the MetRx &#8220;World &#8216;sStrongest Man Competition&#8221;.<br />
Bodybuilder physiques, they don&#8217;t have but I really like that muscle with some meat look.</p>
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		<title>By: Viv</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/22/something-to-talk-about/#comment-72038</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Viv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly, if I read about Eva Longoria saying &quot;I&#039;m just fat and dumpy&quot; one more time when asked about her body or her haircut...I&#039;ll scream.

Oh, and add Gwhiney Paltrow to that list with her gems of &quot;When you&#039;re 35 you just can&#039;t eat and I love to eat so I workout 3 hours a day&quot; blah, blah.  You know some women find that inspirational? &quot;You gotta do what it takes&quot;.

Sorry, Gwen and others  I&#039;m not inspired I just find it sad. 

As for Tina, I wonder if she&#039;s fishing for compliments or affirmation. Sorry, if that&#039; s been mentioned before]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, if I read about Eva Longoria saying &#8220;I&#8217;m just fat and dumpy&#8221; one more time when asked about her body or her haircut&#8230;I&#8217;ll scream.</p>
<p>Oh, and add Gwhiney Paltrow to that list with her gems of &#8220;When you&#8217;re 35 you just can&#8217;t eat and I love to eat so I workout 3 hours a day&#8221; blah, blah.  You know some women find that inspirational? &#8220;You gotta do what it takes&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sorry, Gwen and others  I&#8217;m not inspired I just find it sad. </p>
<p>As for Tina, I wonder if she&#8217;s fishing for compliments or affirmation. Sorry, if that&#8217; s been mentioned before</p>
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