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	<title>Comments on: Guest blogger Rebecca Rabinowitz: Fat-positive children&#8217;s books, part two</title>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/04/guest-blogger-rebecca-rabinowitz-fat-positive-childrens-books-part-two/#comment-89779</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 08:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this thread is an old one, but since it&#039;s still visible and shows up in search, I&#039;m going to add to it.

The most wonderful fat-positive moment in a children&#039;s book is in the classic &quot;Understood Betsey&quot; by Dorothy Canfield Fisher. The main character is first introduced as &quot;Elizabeth Ann&quot; - thin, shrinking, frightened of the world. When her guardians (also the thin, nervous type) are struck by illness, she is sent to distant relatives on a farm, where she encounters many oddities and terrors - gruff Cousin Ann and taciturn Uncle Henry; the strange little one-room schoolhouse; the big black farm dog Shep - and Aunt Abigail, the fattest woman she has ever seen. Everything here is strange - even her name has changed; they call her &quot;Betsy&quot; - and nightfall finds Elizabeth Ann shivering in a big old fourposter bed, feeling more alone than she has ever felt and ready to cry in despair - and then Aunt Abigail comes in to bed down with her, and in a moment, everything changes. The language of this scene is gently marvelous. At first, Betsy &quot;felt just as cold inside as out, and never was more utterly miserable than in that strange, ugly little room, with that strange, queer, fat old woman.&quot; But snuggled up to Aunt Abigail, the thin, trembling, frightened child feels suddenly enveloped in warmth and protection. She &quot;began to feel a soft, pervasive warmth. Aunt Abigail&#039;s great body was like a stove.&quot; Betsy turns her head &quot;so that she could see the round, rosy old face, full of soft wrinkles, and the calm, steady old eyes which were fixed on the page. And as she lay there in the warm bed, watching that quiet face... She felt as though a tight knot inside her were slowly being untied.&quot; As Aunt Abigail crosses the room, &quot;The floor shook under her great bulk, and the peak of her nightcap made a long, grotesque shadow. But... Elizabeth Ann saw nothing funny in her looks... She blew the light out and moved over a little closer to Elizabeth Ann, who immediately was enveloped in that delicious warmth... Between her and the terrors of the dark room loomed the rampart of Aunt Abigail&#039;s great body.&quot; This lovely paragraph nearly makes me cry every time I read it. It deserves to be read again and again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this thread is an old one, but since it&#8217;s still visible and shows up in search, I&#8217;m going to add to it.</p>
<p>The most wonderful fat-positive moment in a children&#8217;s book is in the classic &#8220;Understood Betsey&#8221; by Dorothy Canfield Fisher. The main character is first introduced as &#8220;Elizabeth Ann&#8221; &#8211; thin, shrinking, frightened of the world. When her guardians (also the thin, nervous type) are struck by illness, she is sent to distant relatives on a farm, where she encounters many oddities and terrors &#8211; gruff Cousin Ann and taciturn Uncle Henry; the strange little one-room schoolhouse; the big black farm dog Shep &#8211; and Aunt Abigail, the fattest woman she has ever seen. Everything here is strange &#8211; even her name has changed; they call her &#8220;Betsy&#8221; &#8211; and nightfall finds Elizabeth Ann shivering in a big old fourposter bed, feeling more alone than she has ever felt and ready to cry in despair &#8211; and then Aunt Abigail comes in to bed down with her, and in a moment, everything changes. The language of this scene is gently marvelous. At first, Betsy &#8220;felt just as cold inside as out, and never was more utterly miserable than in that strange, ugly little room, with that strange, queer, fat old woman.&#8221; But snuggled up to Aunt Abigail, the thin, trembling, frightened child feels suddenly enveloped in warmth and protection. She &#8220;began to feel a soft, pervasive warmth. Aunt Abigail&#8217;s great body was like a stove.&#8221; Betsy turns her head &#8220;so that she could see the round, rosy old face, full of soft wrinkles, and the calm, steady old eyes which were fixed on the page. And as she lay there in the warm bed, watching that quiet face&#8230; She felt as though a tight knot inside her were slowly being untied.&#8221; As Aunt Abigail crosses the room, &#8220;The floor shook under her great bulk, and the peak of her nightcap made a long, grotesque shadow. But&#8230; Elizabeth Ann saw nothing funny in her looks&#8230; She blew the light out and moved over a little closer to Elizabeth Ann, who immediately was enveloped in that delicious warmth&#8230; Between her and the terrors of the dark room loomed the rampart of Aunt Abigail&#8217;s great body.&#8221; This lovely paragraph nearly makes me cry every time I read it. It deserves to be read again and again and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Alethea</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/04/guest-blogger-rebecca-rabinowitz-fat-positive-childrens-books-part-two/#comment-72112</link>
		<dc:creator>Alethea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Flora Segunda by Ysabeau Wilce? Flora is quite round and doesn&#039;t mind it, quite likes it, in fact, and is more grumpy when she is hungry and food is unavailable than when people tease her for her shape (if they even do), and her friend Udo is much more vain and careful of his looks than she.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Flora Segunda by Ysabeau Wilce? Flora is quite round and doesn&#8217;t mind it, quite likes it, in fact, and is more grumpy when she is hungry and food is unavailable than when people tease her for her shape (if they even do), and her friend Udo is much more vain and careful of his looks than she.</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trish: I&#039;ve not heard of those, thank you! I love when normatives are tinkered with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trish: I&#8217;ve not heard of those, thank you! I love when normatives are tinkered with.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/04/guest-blogger-rebecca-rabinowitz-fat-positive-childrens-books-part-two/#comment-71850</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Currently reading one of the Traces series - Framed, by Malcolm Rose. British forensic detection set in future in which the northern cities are well developed and the southern (incl. London) are slums. 

Haven&#039;t completed it, so I don&#039;t know how the race and body identity politics play out,  but indications are that thin is offensive and brown is normalised, eg: &#039;Her skin was slightly paler shade of the normal brown colouring and she was pleasantly plump&#039; (p.16). There is also (unsupported) racism against &#039;whites&#039; and criticism of being not &#039;shapely&#039; enough.

Nice to see this in a book that doesn&#039;t have &#039;fat&#039; or &#039;size&#039; or &#039;bum&#039;  in the title and is not specifically about body politics.

Cheers

Trish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Currently reading one of the Traces series &#8211; Framed, by Malcolm Rose. British forensic detection set in future in which the northern cities are well developed and the southern (incl. London) are slums. </p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t completed it, so I don&#8217;t know how the race and body identity politics play out,  but indications are that thin is offensive and brown is normalised, eg: &#8216;Her skin was slightly paler shade of the normal brown colouring and she was pleasantly plump&#8217; (p.16). There is also (unsupported) racism against &#8216;whites&#8217; and criticism of being not &#8217;shapely&#8217; enough.</p>
<p>Nice to see this in a book that doesn&#8217;t have &#8216;fat&#8217; or &#8217;size&#8217; or &#8216;bum&#8217;  in the title and is not specifically about body politics.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Trish</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/04/guest-blogger-rebecca-rabinowitz-fat-positive-childrens-books-part-two/#comment-71179</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t miss a great one called Artichoke&#039;s Heart by Suzanne Supplee. Great southern charm and humor, with some romance thrown in. Rosemary, the main character, tries to lose weight, and does lose a little, but ultimately comes to accept herself as she is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t miss a great one called Artichoke&#8217;s Heart by Suzanne Supplee. Great southern charm and humor, with some romance thrown in. Rosemary, the main character, tries to lose weight, and does lose a little, but ultimately comes to accept herself as she is.</p>
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		<title>By: LilahMorgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>LilahMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked those books, too, &lt;b&gt;infamousqbert.&lt;/b&gt;  They&#039;re not explicitly FA, and they do involve the insistence that the protagonist isn&#039;t fat, rather that they&#039;re nothing wrong with it if she is, but they&#039;re utterly charming and certainly body positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked those books, too, <b>infamousqbert.</b>  They&#8217;re not explicitly FA, and they do involve the insistence that the protagonist isn&#8217;t fat, rather that they&#8217;re nothing wrong with it if she is, but they&#8217;re utterly charming and certainly body positive.</p>
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		<title>By: infamousqbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>infamousqbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, i guess this falls in the YA/adult section. i think high-schoolers would dig it, but it might be a little mature for the middle-school group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, i guess this falls in the YA/adult section. i think high-schoolers would dig it, but it might be a little mature for the middle-school group.</p>
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		<title>By: infamousqbert</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/09/04/guest-blogger-rebecca-rabinowitz-fat-positive-childrens-books-part-two/#comment-70881</link>
		<dc:creator>infamousqbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just read &quot;Size 12 is NOT Fat!&quot; by Meg Cabot. LOVED IT!! the protagonist (whose next story is &quot;Size 14 isn&#039;t fat either&quot;) is a former teen pop-star whose waistline has increased as she&#039;s gotten older and who everyone keeps telling she would get her career back if she&#039;d just lose weight. that&#039;s not the whole story, but that&#039;s the fatpol side of it. she&#039;s always talking about how she just doesn&#039;t care to deprive herself just to be like &quot;those girls&quot;. anyways, i liked it. it&#039;s a mystery in chick-lit clothes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just read &#8220;Size 12 is NOT Fat!&#8221; by Meg Cabot. LOVED IT!! the protagonist (whose next story is &#8220;Size 14 isn&#8217;t fat either&#8221;) is a former teen pop-star whose waistline has increased as she&#8217;s gotten older and who everyone keeps telling she would get her career back if she&#8217;d just lose weight. that&#8217;s not the whole story, but that&#8217;s the fatpol side of it. she&#8217;s always talking about how she just doesn&#8217;t care to deprive herself just to be like &#8220;those girls&#8221;. anyways, i liked it. it&#8217;s a mystery in chick-lit clothes.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also recommend &#039;Girls Under Pressure&#039; by Jacqueline Wilson, which I think is probably targetted at early teens. The protagonist, Ellie, is fat, and the book deals with her becoming hugely insecure about her body and going on a self-destructive crash diet. The happy ending involves her realising that dieting is sapping all her individuality and also driving away her friends. Instead, she starts liking her body, exercising in a positive way (because she enjoys it rather than for any effect on her body), enjoying food, and discovering a talent for art. I read it a while ago, so I may be missing things, but I remember it as being totally fat positive, and well-written to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also recommend &#8216;Girls Under Pressure&#8217; by Jacqueline Wilson, which I think is probably targetted at early teens. The protagonist, Ellie, is fat, and the book deals with her becoming hugely insecure about her body and going on a self-destructive crash diet. The happy ending involves her realising that dieting is sapping all her individuality and also driving away her friends. Instead, she starts liking her body, exercising in a positive way (because she enjoys it rather than for any effect on her body), enjoying food, and discovering a talent for art. I read it a while ago, so I may be missing things, but I remember it as being totally fat positive, and well-written to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deanna -- 

Thanks for the suggestion!  It made me think of Peter S. Beagle&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Folk of the Air&lt;/i&gt;, which includes a fat goddess with whom the protagonist falls madly in love.  I don&#039;t remember whether she&#039;s described as physically beautiful, but she&#039;s certainly fat, and she&#039;s described as irresistible, holy, the impersonation of all that is worthy of love.  (Not a main character, exactly, though.)

Rebecca -- 

Thanks for the fabulous list!  I&#039;m going to start pushing these more at my library.  Since I teach at a girls&#039; school, we talk a lot about body image, but the books used to represent that are usually on the anorexia side of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deanna &#8212; </p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion!  It made me think of Peter S. Beagle&#8217;s <i>Folk of the Air</i>, which includes a fat goddess with whom the protagonist falls madly in love.  I don&#8217;t remember whether she&#8217;s described as physically beautiful, but she&#8217;s certainly fat, and she&#8217;s described as irresistible, holy, the impersonation of all that is worthy of love.  (Not a main character, exactly, though.)</p>
<p>Rebecca &#8212; </p>
<p>Thanks for the fabulous list!  I&#8217;m going to start pushing these more at my library.  Since I teach at a girls&#8217; school, we talk a lot about body image, but the books used to represent that are usually on the anorexia side of things.</p>
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