Comments on: Must-reads on fat visibility, fashion, and racist imagery

By: Julia

Julia — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:43:55 +0000

Oh and yes the Julia on Fatshionista is the same Julia here.

By: Yorke

Yorke — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:45:31 +0000

I just read an enlightening post by Julia on Fatshionista that if anyone is still paying attention, Rhonwyn may want to read. I thought of this discussion as I was reading it.

http://www.fatshionista.com/cms/index.php?option=com_mojo&Itemid=69&p=64

By: Sweet Machine

Sweet Machine — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:11:26 +0000

lee, do you mean the fact that many people refer to her as “the maid” or “the housekeeper”? I took that to be shorthand for “the maid figure” or “the model dressed as a housekeeper” — since we don’t know her name as we do Beth Ditto’s — and not as a sign that people actually believe she is a maid or housekeeper.

By: lee

lee — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:30:20 +0000

many comments on this thread seem to suggest or infer that the model in the maid’s outfit is in fact a maid IRL.

none of the comments here suggest that beth ditto is in fact a geisha IRL.

what’s that about?

*relurks*

By: Meowser

Meowser — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:20:42 +0000

Rhonwyn, some of the Fatosphere blogs are by WOC. (And at least one by a MOC, too, although he's not fat.) Here is a master list of all blogs on the feed. But I see several just glancing at the current feed on the sidebar here. Also, Davita Cuttita of Pregnant Drug-Dealing Prostitutes has written some great stuff about both race and fat. (Also, it should go without saying, but if you've not heard of Mo'Nique, Google her and find out about everything she's done.) As for the subject of the OP, I can't begin to get it unpacked at the moment. I might never get it unpacked completely, but I'm pretty sure I have at least one post in me where I'll give it a whack, as soon as I'm done with all my blogbreak tasks (a couple of days, probably). But for the time being, all I can say is...yuck.

By: atiton

atiton — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:04:42 +0000

emilymorgan, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH. I'm really freaked out by your link. Leaving aside the fact that what we should be talking about here are baby-flavored donuts, why is this company "sorry" that "Per the Vendor's Request Contact Information is Not Available" for the baby donuts? I mean, if you're selling goods and/or services, why wouldn't they want to be contacted? Are these really, real baby donuts? Or are they just small donuts that the vendor doesn't actually want to sell. Too creepy.

By: Rhonwyyn

Rhonwyyn — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:28:49 +0000

Oh, and not just the black voices, but all the other nonwhite voices, too.

By: Rhonwyyn

Rhonwyyn — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:28:21 +0000

Kate and Julia,

What I posted is what I felt as a child. At both school and home, we were taught not to talk to strangers, so approaching the fat black girls I saw on my way to or from the bus stop never entered my mind. I just observed the way they carried themselves and the way they were treated and came to the conclusion that they were treated as people of worth, treatment that I sorely lacked.

Even now, I wouldn’t know how to broach the subject with a fat woman of color. There’s the whole “is she actually okay with being fat” thing combined with the “I know nothing about her culture except for what I’ve seen in the media and read online.” I don’t want to say something that seems perfectly reasonable to me yet turns out to be extremely offensive to her. How do you start a dialog? Where ARE the black voices in the fat acceptance movement?

By: Lynne

Lynne — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:21:07 +0000

I realize that might have been obscure. Sorry!

(There was a crappy email thing one million years ago. It was literally my instant reaction upon reading the phrase to shiver and then correct it in my head to “GroupStupid,” though.)

By: Lynne

Lynne — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:16:09 +0000

I agree, Tari!

Though at the phrase, “group-wise,” I got these involuntary shudders. It was unpleasant. ;-)