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	<title>Comments on: Big, Sloppy Kisses for Daniel Engber, and Some Other Stuff</title>
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		<title>By: Savagewoman</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-91516</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Commenting on an old thread, which is annoying I know, but I canot help it... I think it&#039;s actually the Bursar in Reaper Man who thinks he&#039;s anorexic because he sees a fat man in the mirror. Who is actually the Archchancellor, shouting at him.

Archcahncellor Ridcully is actually a good fat-positive character, because he&#039;s a fat person who is very active.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting on an old thread, which is annoying I know, but I canot help it&#8230; I think it&#8217;s actually the Bursar in Reaper Man who thinks he&#8217;s anorexic because he sees a fat man in the mirror. Who is actually the Archchancellor, shouting at him.</p>
<p>Archcahncellor Ridcully is actually a good fat-positive character, because he&#8217;s a fat person who is very active.</p>
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		<title>By: mels</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-76421</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...I don’t assume fat people can’t be anorexic?&quot;

actually... you can be heavy and have an eating disorder, but technically you can&#039;t be overweight and anorexic. one of the diagnostic criteria for anorexia is life-threatening weight loss: &quot;refusal to maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal weight for age and height (eg, weight loss leading to maintenance of body weight less than 85% of that expected...).&quot;

and yeah, we can argue about what a &quot;minimally normal weight&quot; is, but i think the intent is pretty clear. i think it&#039;s to separate cases of disordered eating based on whether physical health is severely compromised, because that has an effect on treatment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I don’t assume fat people can’t be anorexic?&#8221;</p>
<p>actually&#8230; you can be heavy and have an eating disorder, but technically you can&#8217;t be overweight and anorexic. one of the diagnostic criteria for anorexia is life-threatening weight loss: &#8220;refusal to maintain body weight at or above a minimally normal weight for age and height (eg, weight loss leading to maintenance of body weight less than 85% of that expected&#8230;).&#8221;</p>
<p>and yeah, we can argue about what a &#8220;minimally normal weight&#8221; is, but i think the intent is pretty clear. i think it&#8217;s to separate cases of disordered eating based on whether physical health is severely compromised, because that has an effect on treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: Maia</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-72533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article reads like the author must have been in the &quot;fatosphere&quot; once in his life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article reads like the author must have been in the &#8220;fatosphere&#8221; once in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Tapetum</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-62450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tapetum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[octopod - I was reading this whole comment thread thinking &quot;Is nobody going to mention Monstrous Regiment? I&#039;m going to, if they don&#039;t.&quot;

I like Terry Pratchett in spurts - I&#039;ll read two or three books in a row, and then be tired of him for a while - but I have endless love for Monstrous Regiment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>octopod &#8211; I was reading this whole comment thread thinking &#8220;Is nobody going to mention Monstrous Regiment? I&#8217;m going to, if they don&#8217;t.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like Terry Pratchett in spurts &#8211; I&#8217;ll read two or three books in a row, and then be tired of him for a while &#8211; but I have endless love for Monstrous Regiment.</p>
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		<title>By: octopod</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-62090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[octopod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terry Pratchett writes female characters such that they&#039;re real people, and you aren&#039;t constantly being clobbered over the head with LOOK ITS A GURL. This alone makes him orders of magnitude better than most fantasy writers.

Anyone mentioned &quot;Monstrous Regiment&quot; yet? So many awesome characters there. (Sergeant Jackrum FTW.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry Pratchett writes female characters such that they&#8217;re real people, and you aren&#8217;t constantly being clobbered over the head with LOOK ITS A GURL. This alone makes him orders of magnitude better than most fantasy writers.</p>
<p>Anyone mentioned &#8220;Monstrous Regiment&#8221; yet? So many awesome characters there. (Sergeant Jackrum FTW.)</p>
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		<title>By: Wish</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-62027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aw man, I leave and it becomes a Terry Pratchett love fest! *strokes her entire Discworld collection*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw man, I leave and it becomes a Terry Pratchett love fest! *strokes her entire Discworld collection*</p>
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		<title>By: Medea</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-61988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Medea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nomie, there&#039;s a similar, if slower, loss observed with partial gravity (See NASA&#039;s Mars Gravity Biosatellite); and a lot of speculation that anything other than EXACT surface-of-the-Earth gravity would produce significant bone density deterioration (there&#039;s some interesting research with high-altitude and frequent-flyer populations).

Rationalizing WALL-E&#039;s aesthetic choice of blob-people with that data is probably about as convincing as rationalizing Star Trek&#039;s pseudoscientific warp drive with putative LHC research; but bone loss in WALL-E&#039;s artificial gravity is not unreasonable.  &lt;i&gt;Wrong&lt;/i&gt; in many senses of the word, perhaps (uncalled for, sketchy, a stretch, a blind, a rationalization); but not unreasonable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nomie, there&#8217;s a similar, if slower, loss observed with partial gravity (See NASA&#8217;s Mars Gravity Biosatellite); and a lot of speculation that anything other than EXACT surface-of-the-Earth gravity would produce significant bone density deterioration (there&#8217;s some interesting research with high-altitude and frequent-flyer populations).</p>
<p>Rationalizing WALL-E&#8217;s aesthetic choice of blob-people with that data is probably about as convincing as rationalizing Star Trek&#8217;s pseudoscientific warp drive with putative LHC research; but bone loss in WALL-E&#8217;s artificial gravity is not unreasonable.  <i>Wrong</i> in many senses of the word, perhaps (uncalled for, sketchy, a stretch, a blind, a rationalization); but not unreasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-61987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nomie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is there bone loss, though? Why the microgravity handwaving? Wall-E and Eve move in exactly the same way on earth as they do on the Axiom. The NASA issue has to do with zero-gravity environments, not fake-gravity. There was no reason for them to be fat, boneless blobs.

Kate, thanks for linking this article. I actually posted it on my personal livejournal in hopes that some of my friends will read it and maybe get why I am upset by this movie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there bone loss, though? Why the microgravity handwaving? Wall-E and Eve move in exactly the same way on earth as they do on the Axiom. The NASA issue has to do with zero-gravity environments, not fake-gravity. There was no reason for them to be fat, boneless blobs.</p>
<p>Kate, thanks for linking this article. I actually posted it on my personal livejournal in hopes that some of my friends will read it and maybe get why I am upset by this movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiana</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/07/11/big-sloppy-kisses-for-daniel-engber-and-some-other-stuff/#comment-61981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and &lt;em&gt;Good Omens&lt;/em&gt; is one of my favourite books, too. I love Neil Gaiman in general, but the sheer amount of Pratchett books out there has sort of turned me off them since I have no idea where to start and I&#039;m afraid that if I ever read one, I&#039;d want all the other as well and that would get very expensive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and <em>Good Omens</em> is one of my favourite books, too. I love Neil Gaiman in general, but the sheer amount of Pratchett books out there has sort of turned me off them since I have no idea where to start and I&#8217;m afraid that if I ever read one, I&#8217;d want all the other as well and that would get very expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tiana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be honest, from all the reviews I&#039;ve read so far I just can&#039;t imagine &lt;em&gt;how&lt;/em&gt; they could have avoided making the humans look fat. It seems to be a logical consequence if that stuff about bone loss is true. Also, why not? They&#039;re probably more comfortable in the hover chairs than boneless thin people would have been. And definitely better than jelly blobs with eyes. I also like that they all look more or less the same - except for the racial differences of course, which is the only aspect that I disagree with. I might watch it if the local cinema ever decides to show it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, from all the reviews I&#8217;ve read so far I just can&#8217;t imagine <em>how</em> they could have avoided making the humans look fat. It seems to be a logical consequence if that stuff about bone loss is true. Also, why not? They&#8217;re probably more comfortable in the hover chairs than boneless thin people would have been. And definitely better than jelly blobs with eyes. I also like that they all look more or less the same &#8211; except for the racial differences of course, which is the only aspect that I disagree with. I might watch it if the local cinema ever decides to show it.</p>
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