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		<title>By: Eggplant</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-54216</link>
		<dc:creator>Eggplant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 07:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still not sure why anyone would pay attention to a &quot;nutritionist&quot;. All you need to be a &quot;nutritionist&quot; is sixty dollars - the cost of the diploma mill degree. If you want to talk to someone with real training and education, get a dietitian.

Nutritionists are without exception evil, cheating, lying, scamming quacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not sure why anyone would pay attention to a &#8220;nutritionist&#8221;. All you need to be a &#8220;nutritionist&#8221; is sixty dollars &#8211; the cost of the diploma mill degree. If you want to talk to someone with real training and education, get a dietitian.</p>
<p>Nutritionists are without exception evil, cheating, lying, scamming quacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Zen</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53909</link>
		<dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My current swimsuit is by Delta Burke. I snagged it at Marshall&#039;s a few years ago, and even though it&#039;s a size (possibly two) too small, I love it.

it&#039;s a simple tank suit with a built in shelf bra (which doesn&#039;t do a thing to hold up the girls but keeps them squished at least).The bottom is a lovely cobalt blue, which shades up into a pretty tealy-blue, with bronze-colored studs in various sizes of circles and rings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current swimsuit is by Delta Burke. I snagged it at Marshall&#8217;s a few years ago, and even though it&#8217;s a size (possibly two) too small, I love it.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a simple tank suit with a built in shelf bra (which doesn&#8217;t do a thing to hold up the girls but keeps them squished at least).The bottom is a lovely cobalt blue, which shades up into a pretty tealy-blue, with bronze-colored studs in various sizes of circles and rings.</p>
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		<title>By: Milla</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53825</link>
		<dc:creator>Milla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of like the Monif&#039;s although they&#039;re a bit &quot;hit me over the head&quot; sexy for my taste.. Like Tim Gunn says: a chacun son gout.
I am partial to Gottex bathing suits... I found one in a size 18 a few years back at the Loehman&#039;s in Deerfield, IL. 
I treasure the thing... It&#039;s lovely.
But yeah, goes to show that Gottex makes plus...
As far as the (yet another) bollocks &quot;obesity&quot; study check out the &quot;F-Word&quot; and she followed the money trail and it&#039;s all about the &quot;Usual Suspects&quot; Johnson und Johnson, Roche, etc...
Warning from someone in the industry: The more prestigious the journal in which a study is published the more likely it&#039;s industry sponsored and not worth the paper it&#039;s written on because it&#039;s a promotional piece not a valid scientific advance.
Hugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of like the Monif&#8217;s although they&#8217;re a bit &#8220;hit me over the head&#8221; sexy for my taste.. Like Tim Gunn says: a chacun son gout.<br />
I am partial to Gottex bathing suits&#8230; I found one in a size 18 a few years back at the Loehman&#8217;s in Deerfield, IL.<br />
I treasure the thing&#8230; It&#8217;s lovely.<br />
But yeah, goes to show that Gottex makes plus&#8230;<br />
As far as the (yet another) bollocks &#8220;obesity&#8221; study check out the &#8220;F-Word&#8221; and she followed the money trail and it&#8217;s all about the &#8220;Usual Suspects&#8221; Johnson und Johnson, Roche, etc&#8230;<br />
Warning from someone in the industry: The more prestigious the journal in which a study is published the more likely it&#8217;s industry sponsored and not worth the paper it&#8217;s written on because it&#8217;s a promotional piece not a valid scientific advance.<br />
Hugs</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53555</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 11:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold the phone, Mia Tyler went on Celebrity Fit Club? Mia! Noooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold the phone, Mia Tyler went on Celebrity Fit Club? Mia! Noooo!</p>
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		<title>By: queendom</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53306</link>
		<dc:creator>queendom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 11:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The meaning of  &quot;There&#039;s no interaction between BMI and exercise level...&quot; depends on the dependent variable they are talking about. But since the study mainly deals with the risk of developing cardiovascular disease (right? I haven&#039;t read it) I guess that in this case it means that exercise had the same effect on cardiovascular risk for differnt BMI categories (i.e., it did not decrease risk more or less for at people than it did for thin people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The meaning of  &#8220;There&#8217;s no interaction between BMI and exercise level&#8230;&#8221; depends on the dependent variable they are talking about. But since the study mainly deals with the risk of developing cardiovascular disease (right? I haven&#8217;t read it) I guess that in this case it means that exercise had the same effect on cardiovascular risk for differnt BMI categories (i.e., it did not decrease risk more or less for at people than it did for thin people).</p>
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		<title>By: Some Fat Guy</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53292</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Fat Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 09:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction:

&quot;There’s no interaction between BMI and obesity...&quot;

should be 

&quot;There’s no interaction between BMI and exercise level...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction:</p>
<p>&#8220;There’s no interaction between BMI and obesity&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>should be </p>
<p>&#8220;There’s no interaction between BMI and exercise level&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Some Fat Guy</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53290</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Fat Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 09:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. the study on BMI and exercise.

I read the study itself, and while not qualified enough to understand it in full, it seems they did/found some interesting things:

- Self reported, obviously an issue.
- Seems they used only the originally reported information for diet and exercise and did not account for changes over time.
- They used categories for exercise and BMI rather than linear data to make it easier to formulate policy and to manage.
- No increase seen in some heart conditions (MI) for active obese people.
- Looks like they found that normal weight active people in some cases increased their risks by exercising in certain bands.
- They didn&#039;t look at anything beyond the recommended level of exercise e.g. what if people did twice as much (as seems to be required to &quot;maintain&quot; weight loss in some other studies).
- When they didn&#039;t get the results expected/wanted, they claimed the study was &quot;underpowered&quot; for that data.
- The overwhelming result seems to be that doing some exercise is highly beneficial for obese &amp; overweight folk.
- There&#039;s no interaction between BMI and obesity (I think that means that they found that exercise does not reduce BMI??)
- They postulate only one causal theory for why obesity would increase cardiac risk factors, but not many possible other such as:

 -- perhaps obese women are likely to attempt repeated dieting, which itself is harmful to cardiac health
-- perhaps obese women suffer increased cardiac risks due to chronic stress arising from fat phobia in society.

Anyway, I&#039;ll be really interested to see what JFS says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. the study on BMI and exercise.</p>
<p>I read the study itself, and while not qualified enough to understand it in full, it seems they did/found some interesting things:</p>
<p>- Self reported, obviously an issue.<br />
- Seems they used only the originally reported information for diet and exercise and did not account for changes over time.<br />
- They used categories for exercise and BMI rather than linear data to make it easier to formulate policy and to manage.<br />
- No increase seen in some heart conditions (MI) for active obese people.<br />
- Looks like they found that normal weight active people in some cases increased their risks by exercising in certain bands.<br />
- They didn&#8217;t look at anything beyond the recommended level of exercise e.g. what if people did twice as much (as seems to be required to &#8220;maintain&#8221; weight loss in some other studies).<br />
- When they didn&#8217;t get the results expected/wanted, they claimed the study was &#8220;underpowered&#8221; for that data.<br />
- The overwhelming result seems to be that doing some exercise is highly beneficial for obese &amp; overweight folk.<br />
- There&#8217;s no interaction between BMI and obesity (I think that means that they found that exercise does not reduce BMI??)<br />
- They postulate only one causal theory for why obesity would increase cardiac risk factors, but not many possible other such as:</p>
<p> &#8212; perhaps obese women are likely to attempt repeated dieting, which itself is harmful to cardiac health<br />
&#8211; perhaps obese women suffer increased cardiac risks due to chronic stress arising from fat phobia in society.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ll be really interested to see what JFS says.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53242</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephan, I&#039;ll call truce on these requirements:

1. Have programs that teach kids how to exercise and be healthy, without thin being the ultimate goal.

2. Not teach children that bullying other fat children is helping them to be healthier. If hate made people thin nobody would be fat.

3. You realize that people come in all shapes and sizes, that&#039;s reality. That until people come to your door with a funnel and a tube connected to a barrel of foodstuffs, you do not know what it&#039;s like to be persecuted for your natural body size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephan, I&#8217;ll call truce on these requirements:</p>
<p>1. Have programs that teach kids how to exercise and be healthy, without thin being the ultimate goal.</p>
<p>2. Not teach children that bullying other fat children is helping them to be healthier. If hate made people thin nobody would be fat.</p>
<p>3. You realize that people come in all shapes and sizes, that&#8217;s reality. That until people come to your door with a funnel and a tube connected to a barrel of foodstuffs, you do not know what it&#8217;s like to be persecuted for your natural body size.</p>
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		<title>By: Piffle</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53238</link>
		<dc:creator>Piffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I forgot to put the link in, it&#039;s coming; but I think the link is slowing it down.  Apologies all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I forgot to put the link in, it&#8217;s coming; but I think the link is slowing it down.  Apologies all!</p>
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		<title>By: Piffle</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/04/29/mailbag/#comment-53235</link>
		<dc:creator>Piffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This press release came out today where a couple programs which:

a) Promote eating healthy foods (not mentioned how they define those)
b) Promote increasing activity
c)Critique the idea that being thin leads to happiness 

Leads to a lower risk for young women in the next three years of both developing eating disorders and becoming obese. 

The release particularly specifies that it&#039;s the first such intervention to have good results.  It&#039;s from a specialist in ED, not an obesity researcher, so perhaps that&#039;s why it&#039;s more sensible than the CI/CA type of things so many programs cultivate.

So, if you do two things from HAES, critique the thinness ideal and get more exercise, it&#039;s good for young women.  

Who&#039;d&#039;a thunk it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This press release came out today where a couple programs which:</p>
<p>a) Promote eating healthy foods (not mentioned how they define those)<br />
b) Promote increasing activity<br />
c)Critique the idea that being thin leads to happiness </p>
<p>Leads to a lower risk for young women in the next three years of both developing eating disorders and becoming obese. </p>
<p>The release particularly specifies that it&#8217;s the first such intervention to have good results.  It&#8217;s from a specialist in ED, not an obesity researcher, so perhaps that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s more sensible than the CI/CA type of things so many programs cultivate.</p>
<p>So, if you do two things from HAES, critique the thinness ideal and get more exercise, it&#8217;s good for young women.  </p>
<p>Who&#8217;d'a thunk it?</p>
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