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	<title>Comments on: Reality Check: Why Don&#8217;t Fat Women Get Checked for Cancer of the Nasty Bits?</title>
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		<title>By: Maren</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-131005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last time I went to see a gyno it was because of symptoms of PCOS...not only did she behave rudely and invasive at my first ever proper check-up (I was 20 at the time); after the ultrasound she looked at me and said &quot;You have a lot of cysts, if you lose a lot of weight they will go away. If not, you&#039;ll never have children.&quot; That visit still has me traumatized, and seeing how several people seem to have somewhat similar experiences I can totally understand the fear of seeing a gyn...having your parts probed and squeezed by people who clearly find you disgusting is not a pleasant experience. I find it sad that doctors actually find obese people disgusting; in my dream world health care professionals should understand that weight isn&#039;t merely about food and diets, and that skinny isn&#039;t necessarily awesome or healthy (just like being fat doesn&#039;t automatically make you sick or a lazy slob).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time I went to see a gyno it was because of symptoms of PCOS&#8230;not only did she behave rudely and invasive at my first ever proper check-up (I was 20 at the time); after the ultrasound she looked at me and said &#8220;You have a lot of cysts, if you lose a lot of weight they will go away. If not, you&#8217;ll never have children.&#8221; That visit still has me traumatized, and seeing how several people seem to have somewhat similar experiences I can totally understand the fear of seeing a gyn&#8230;having your parts probed and squeezed by people who clearly find you disgusting is not a pleasant experience. I find it sad that doctors actually find obese people disgusting; in my dream world health care professionals should understand that weight isn&#8217;t merely about food and diets, and that skinny isn&#8217;t necessarily awesome or healthy (just like being fat doesn&#8217;t automatically make you sick or a lazy slob).</p>
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		<title>By: Pyratus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pyratus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have only read this today and I know it was posted a little while ago. I&#039;m a nurse myself and I&#039;m fat. I&#039;m shocked that 24% of nurses are REPULSED by fatties. I make sure that when I have a patient I treat them the same. I work in mental health nursing, I treat my anorexic patients the same as any other, so why should someone fat be treated different? I make sure that all of my patients know that I care about them no matter what. The NMC (Nursing Midwifery Council, the governing body in the UK for nurses that we must adhere to,) states that we should treat all patients the same, regardless of gender, religion, spirituality, culture.. Regardless of anything.
Personally I am repulsed by the amount of nurses who are repulsed by fat patients.
Devon
www.fat-nurse.com (My blog. This post relevant to me? Oh, only a little bit.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only read this today and I know it was posted a little while ago. I&#8217;m a nurse myself and I&#8217;m fat. I&#8217;m shocked that 24% of nurses are REPULSED by fatties. I make sure that when I have a patient I treat them the same. I work in mental health nursing, I treat my anorexic patients the same as any other, so why should someone fat be treated different? I make sure that all of my patients know that I care about them no matter what. The NMC (Nursing Midwifery Council, the governing body in the UK for nurses that we must adhere to,) states that we should treat all patients the same, regardless of gender, religion, spirituality, culture.. Regardless of anything.<br />
Personally I am repulsed by the amount of nurses who are repulsed by fat patients.<br />
Devon<br />
<a href="http://www.fat-nurse.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fat-nurse.com</a> (My blog. This post relevant to me? Oh, only a little bit.)</p>
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		<title>By: Nifty and/or Useful Links &#171; Living ~400lbs</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-79436</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: pkjk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As someone who has had endocrine problems for probably my whole life (first one was diagnosed at about age 20), I can say that my generally warm and personable GP is fat phobic.  I went in because my energy level was abysmal - I was pretty sure I needed my thyroid med upped, or that some other endocrine thing was out of whack.

Now this GP has known me for about 100 lbs now, through multiple diagnoses that I had to push to get recognized, but when I went to him about this, he basically told me that my energy  was most likely awful because of my weight, and didn&#039;t do the additional testing or up my thyroid med, as I had requested.

I&#039;m not the most assertive person in the world, but after 20+ years, I ended up finding another doctor, who immediately agreed to double my thyroid med dose and re-check my bloodwork in a month.  Amazing - once again, I was right - I feel much better on the doubled dose, All it took was a doctor who saw me as a whole person and not the cumulative effect of my weight.

P.S. to the 22 year old who was having trouble conceiving and also has excess hair, please find a doc and ask to be tested for poly-cystic ovaries.  This is something you want to know about, and you can be treated for it.  (It&#039;s one of my several endocrine issues, and probably the main one that affects my weight.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has had endocrine problems for probably my whole life (first one was diagnosed at about age 20), I can say that my generally warm and personable GP is fat phobic.  I went in because my energy level was abysmal &#8211; I was pretty sure I needed my thyroid med upped, or that some other endocrine thing was out of whack.</p>
<p>Now this GP has known me for about 100 lbs now, through multiple diagnoses that I had to push to get recognized, but when I went to him about this, he basically told me that my energy  was most likely awful because of my weight, and didn&#8217;t do the additional testing or up my thyroid med, as I had requested.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the most assertive person in the world, but after 20+ years, I ended up finding another doctor, who immediately agreed to double my thyroid med dose and re-check my bloodwork in a month.  Amazing &#8211; once again, I was right &#8211; I feel much better on the doubled dose, All it took was a doctor who saw me as a whole person and not the cumulative effect of my weight.</p>
<p>P.S. to the 22 year old who was having trouble conceiving and also has excess hair, please find a doc and ask to be tested for poly-cystic ovaries.  This is something you want to know about, and you can be treated for it.  (It&#8217;s one of my several endocrine issues, and probably the main one that affects my weight.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chickfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chickfactor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoorah for this thread! I end up being weighed almost every time I go to the doctors (I live in England) and yes, I am very very fat, but if I go along with an earache I don&#039;t think my weight has a direct causal effect on that... Maybe I&#039;m wrong... But I don&#039;t think so!

 In England it seems that fat-hate is inculcated into doctors at medical school, and nurses too. However due to the vagaries of the NHS I have never actually met my GP, just a succession of locums.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoorah for this thread! I end up being weighed almost every time I go to the doctors (I live in England) and yes, I am very very fat, but if I go along with an earache I don&#8217;t think my weight has a direct causal effect on that&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;m wrong&#8230; But I don&#8217;t think so!</p>
<p> In England it seems that fat-hate is inculcated into doctors at medical school, and nurses too. However due to the vagaries of the NHS I have never actually met my GP, just a succession of locums.</p>
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		<title>By: ry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just finding this thanks to a link from a friend and it&#039;s both sad and heartening to know I&#039;m not alone in having negative experiences with doctors.

I was spoiled for a while, having a doctor for a father and hearing nothing remotely close to weight/shape bias from him.  Then I was spoiled further by an excellent gynecologist who only mentioned weight when I&#039;d gained much more than usual in a single year (and that was &quot;It looks like you&#039;ve gained a good deal of weight this year.  Anything going on?&quot;).

Then I got a mysterious rash I couldn&#039;t figure out the cause of.  All the allergists and skin specialists in my area were booked solid for a 4 month minimum, so I finally made an appointment with a GP.  Total asshole.  Despite going in to get a referral for someone to see me about the rash I ended up getting a half hour lecture on my weight and eating habits (which he was totally wrong about, btw, and wouldn&#039;t believe me about).  When I saw him again two months later the nurse weighed me with my coat and boots on, as opposed to the prior visit when I&#039;d been in a t-shirt and sock feet, then berated me for gaining a pound.  Again, he went on about weight, even though the reason for my visit had nothing to do with it.

I never went back.  They can kiss my ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finding this thanks to a link from a friend and it&#8217;s both sad and heartening to know I&#8217;m not alone in having negative experiences with doctors.</p>
<p>I was spoiled for a while, having a doctor for a father and hearing nothing remotely close to weight/shape bias from him.  Then I was spoiled further by an excellent gynecologist who only mentioned weight when I&#8217;d gained much more than usual in a single year (and that was &#8220;It looks like you&#8217;ve gained a good deal of weight this year.  Anything going on?&#8221;).</p>
<p>Then I got a mysterious rash I couldn&#8217;t figure out the cause of.  All the allergists and skin specialists in my area were booked solid for a 4 month minimum, so I finally made an appointment with a GP.  Total asshole.  Despite going in to get a referral for someone to see me about the rash I ended up getting a half hour lecture on my weight and eating habits (which he was totally wrong about, btw, and wouldn&#8217;t believe me about).  When I saw him again two months later the nurse weighed me with my coat and boots on, as opposed to the prior visit when I&#8217;d been in a t-shirt and sock feet, then berated me for gaining a pound.  Again, he went on about weight, even though the reason for my visit had nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>I never went back.  They can kiss my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Finding Good Doctors - It ISN&#8217;T a Myth! &#171; I AM in shape. ROUND is a shape.</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-71104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finding Good Doctors - It ISN&#8217;T a Myth! &#171; I AM in shape. ROUND is a shape.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of us who have complaints against doctors, or who have finally just gotten so fed up with that we no longer GO to the doctor, are most irritated with:  that they are making assumptions and/or even entire decisions relevant [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of us who have complaints against doctors, or who have finally just gotten so fed up with that we no longer GO to the doctor, are most irritated with:  that they are making assumptions and/or even entire decisions relevant [...]</p>
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		<title>By: LWalker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LWalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I type medical reports and I have heard doctors dictate biased reports when it comes to thin versus fat patients.  &quot;This very pleasant thin woman...&quot;    or   &quot;Jane is a well-developed, well-nourished thin woman in fabulous shape&quot;  versus Mrs. Jones is a morbidly obese patient...&quot;    or &quot;John Doe needs to lose 30 pounds in order to be in better shape&quot;.   I even remember one doctor stating, referring to a thin patient, &quot;Well, we don&#039;t get those too much around this neck of the woods!&quot;  It stands to serve that the bias that many so-called health professionals&#039; attitudes when it comes to serving fat folks is the reason most fatties defer seeking preventative health care.  

There are very few fat-friendly health professionals out there because are taught that fat is bad, thin is good, no matter what, and it shows in how they treat patients.  

As for myself, I think I&#039;ve been lucky in that my primary docs and GYN have never really harped too much about my weight, though when I did go for my physical last year and asked not to be weighed, the medical assistant/nurse said that I HAD to do it and weighed me anyway.  However, on my most recent visit, interestingly enough, I got that same assistant, and when I asked not to be weighed, she didn&#039;t weigh me.  Hmmm...maybe she &quot;got it&quot; that time.  

I hope it gets better, but who knows?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I type medical reports and I have heard doctors dictate biased reports when it comes to thin versus fat patients.  &#8220;This very pleasant thin woman&#8230;&#8221;    or   &#8220;Jane is a well-developed, well-nourished thin woman in fabulous shape&#8221;  versus Mrs. Jones is a morbidly obese patient&#8230;&#8221;    or &#8220;John Doe needs to lose 30 pounds in order to be in better shape&#8221;.   I even remember one doctor stating, referring to a thin patient, &#8220;Well, we don&#8217;t get those too much around this neck of the woods!&#8221;  It stands to serve that the bias that many so-called health professionals&#8217; attitudes when it comes to serving fat folks is the reason most fatties defer seeking preventative health care.  </p>
<p>There are very few fat-friendly health professionals out there because are taught that fat is bad, thin is good, no matter what, and it shows in how they treat patients.  </p>
<p>As for myself, I think I&#8217;ve been lucky in that my primary docs and GYN have never really harped too much about my weight, though when I did go for my physical last year and asked not to be weighed, the medical assistant/nurse said that I HAD to do it and weighed me anyway.  However, on my most recent visit, interestingly enough, I got that same assistant, and when I asked not to be weighed, she didn&#8217;t weigh me.  Hmmm&#8230;maybe she &#8220;got it&#8221; that time.  </p>
<p>I hope it gets better, but who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: How again is being fat socially acceptable? &#187; The-F-Word.org</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-50705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How again is being fat socially acceptable? &#187; The-F-Word.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lindsay S</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lindsay S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In regards to what Coco said about &#039;getting what you have,&#039; I&#039;m remembering a time in early high school when I a girl I&#039;d known previously had cancer. At the benefit dinner they held to raise money for her treatment, someone mentioned how she&#039;d lost 50 pounds while in chemo. At that time, I clearly remember thinking that I wished I could get some horrible disease or cancer or something so I could lose 50 pounds.

It makes me really sad to see just how much self-hatred is ground into people at a young age.

I&#039;m lucky in that I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve had a lot of problems with doctors/nurses/etc treating me badly because I&#039;m fat, but I have been notoriously oblivious to such things in the past.

From now on, though, I&#039;m going to do my best to stand up for myself at doctors&#039; offices. I don&#039;t mind the weighing, but I honestly don&#039;t want to know the number, because I&#039;ve been working very hard to stop associating my worth as a person with that number.

I am deathly afraid of getting a pelvic, though. At 25 I&#039;ve never done it, but will be looking over the list of fat friendly health professionals to try and find some in my area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to what Coco said about &#8216;getting what you have,&#8217; I&#8217;m remembering a time in early high school when I a girl I&#8217;d known previously had cancer. At the benefit dinner they held to raise money for her treatment, someone mentioned how she&#8217;d lost 50 pounds while in chemo. At that time, I clearly remember thinking that I wished I could get some horrible disease or cancer or something so I could lose 50 pounds.</p>
<p>It makes me really sad to see just how much self-hatred is ground into people at a young age.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m lucky in that I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve had a lot of problems with doctors/nurses/etc treating me badly because I&#8217;m fat, but I have been notoriously oblivious to such things in the past.</p>
<p>From now on, though, I&#8217;m going to do my best to stand up for myself at doctors&#8217; offices. I don&#8217;t mind the weighing, but I honestly don&#8217;t want to know the number, because I&#8217;ve been working very hard to stop associating my worth as a person with that number.</p>
<p>I am deathly afraid of getting a pelvic, though. At 25 I&#8217;ve never done it, but will be looking over the list of fat friendly health professionals to try and find some in my area.</p>
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