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	<title>Comments on: Reality Check: Why Don&#8217;t Fat Women Get Checked for Cancer of the Nasty Bits?</title>
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		<title>By: Nifty and/or Useful Links &#171; Living ~400lbs</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-79436</link>
		<dc:creator>Nifty and/or Useful Links &#171; Living ~400lbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and adjust for less absorption&#8221; vs &#8220;let&#8217;s treat the real body and not all this repulsive fat that is sitting in a backpack and getting in our way&#8221;.   [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pkjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>pkjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who has had endocrine problems for probably my whole life (first one was diagnosed at about age 20), I can say that my generally warm and personable GP is fat phobic.  I went in because my energy level was abysmal - I was pretty sure I needed my thyroid med upped, or that some other endocrine thing was out of whack.

Now this GP has known me for about 100 lbs now, through multiple diagnoses that I had to push to get recognized, but when I went to him about this, he basically told me that my energy  was most likely awful because of my weight, and didn&#039;t do the additional testing or up my thyroid med, as I had requested.

I&#039;m not the most assertive person in the world, but after 20+ years, I ended up finding another doctor, who immediately agreed to double my thyroid med dose and re-check my bloodwork in a month.  Amazing - once again, I was right - I feel much better on the doubled dose, All it took was a doctor who saw me as a whole person and not the cumulative effect of my weight.

P.S. to the 22 year old who was having trouble conceiving and also has excess hair, please find a doc and ask to be tested for poly-cystic ovaries.  This is something you want to know about, and you can be treated for it.  (It&#039;s one of my several endocrine issues, and probably the main one that affects my weight.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who has had endocrine problems for probably my whole life (first one was diagnosed at about age 20), I can say that my generally warm and personable GP is fat phobic.  I went in because my energy level was abysmal &#8211; I was pretty sure I needed my thyroid med upped, or that some other endocrine thing was out of whack.</p>
<p>Now this GP has known me for about 100 lbs now, through multiple diagnoses that I had to push to get recognized, but when I went to him about this, he basically told me that my energy  was most likely awful because of my weight, and didn&#8217;t do the additional testing or up my thyroid med, as I had requested.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not the most assertive person in the world, but after 20+ years, I ended up finding another doctor, who immediately agreed to double my thyroid med dose and re-check my bloodwork in a month.  Amazing &#8211; once again, I was right &#8211; I feel much better on the doubled dose, All it took was a doctor who saw me as a whole person and not the cumulative effect of my weight.</p>
<p>P.S. to the 22 year old who was having trouble conceiving and also has excess hair, please find a doc and ask to be tested for poly-cystic ovaries.  This is something you want to know about, and you can be treated for it.  (It&#8217;s one of my several endocrine issues, and probably the main one that affects my weight.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chickfactor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chickfactor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoorah for this thread! I end up being weighed almost every time I go to the doctors (I live in England) and yes, I am very very fat, but if I go along with an earache I don&#039;t think my weight has a direct causal effect on that... Maybe I&#039;m wrong... But I don&#039;t think so!

 In England it seems that fat-hate is inculcated into doctors at medical school, and nurses too. However due to the vagaries of the NHS I have never actually met my GP, just a succession of locums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoorah for this thread! I end up being weighed almost every time I go to the doctors (I live in England) and yes, I am very very fat, but if I go along with an earache I don&#8217;t think my weight has a direct causal effect on that&#8230; Maybe I&#8217;m wrong&#8230; But I don&#8217;t think so!</p>
<p> In England it seems that fat-hate is inculcated into doctors at medical school, and nurses too. However due to the vagaries of the NHS I have never actually met my GP, just a succession of locums.</p>
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		<title>By: ry</title>
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		<dc:creator>ry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finding this thanks to a link from a friend and it&#039;s both sad and heartening to know I&#039;m not alone in having negative experiences with doctors.

I was spoiled for a while, having a doctor for a father and hearing nothing remotely close to weight/shape bias from him.  Then I was spoiled further by an excellent gynecologist who only mentioned weight when I&#039;d gained much more than usual in a single year (and that was &quot;It looks like you&#039;ve gained a good deal of weight this year.  Anything going on?&quot;).

Then I got a mysterious rash I couldn&#039;t figure out the cause of.  All the allergists and skin specialists in my area were booked solid for a 4 month minimum, so I finally made an appointment with a GP.  Total asshole.  Despite going in to get a referral for someone to see me about the rash I ended up getting a half hour lecture on my weight and eating habits (which he was totally wrong about, btw, and wouldn&#039;t believe me about).  When I saw him again two months later the nurse weighed me with my coat and boots on, as opposed to the prior visit when I&#039;d been in a t-shirt and sock feet, then berated me for gaining a pound.  Again, he went on about weight, even though the reason for my visit had nothing to do with it.

I never went back.  They can kiss my ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finding this thanks to a link from a friend and it&#8217;s both sad and heartening to know I&#8217;m not alone in having negative experiences with doctors.</p>
<p>I was spoiled for a while, having a doctor for a father and hearing nothing remotely close to weight/shape bias from him.  Then I was spoiled further by an excellent gynecologist who only mentioned weight when I&#8217;d gained much more than usual in a single year (and that was &#8220;It looks like you&#8217;ve gained a good deal of weight this year.  Anything going on?&#8221;).</p>
<p>Then I got a mysterious rash I couldn&#8217;t figure out the cause of.  All the allergists and skin specialists in my area were booked solid for a 4 month minimum, so I finally made an appointment with a GP.  Total asshole.  Despite going in to get a referral for someone to see me about the rash I ended up getting a half hour lecture on my weight and eating habits (which he was totally wrong about, btw, and wouldn&#8217;t believe me about).  When I saw him again two months later the nurse weighed me with my coat and boots on, as opposed to the prior visit when I&#8217;d been in a t-shirt and sock feet, then berated me for gaining a pound.  Again, he went on about weight, even though the reason for my visit had nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>I never went back.  They can kiss my ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Finding Good Doctors - It ISN&#8217;T a Myth! &#171; I AM in shape. ROUND is a shape.</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-71104</link>
		<dc:creator>Finding Good Doctors - It ISN&#8217;T a Myth! &#171; I AM in shape. ROUND is a shape.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of us who have complaints against doctors, or who have finally just gotten so fed up with that we no longer GO to the doctor, are most irritated with:  that they are making assumptions and/or even entire decisions relevant [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LWalker</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-52284</link>
		<dc:creator>LWalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I type medical reports and I have heard doctors dictate biased reports when it comes to thin versus fat patients.  &quot;This very pleasant thin woman...&quot;    or   &quot;Jane is a well-developed, well-nourished thin woman in fabulous shape&quot;  versus Mrs. Jones is a morbidly obese patient...&quot;    or &quot;John Doe needs to lose 30 pounds in order to be in better shape&quot;.   I even remember one doctor stating, referring to a thin patient, &quot;Well, we don&#039;t get those too much around this neck of the woods!&quot;  It stands to serve that the bias that many so-called health professionals&#039; attitudes when it comes to serving fat folks is the reason most fatties defer seeking preventative health care.  

There are very few fat-friendly health professionals out there because are taught that fat is bad, thin is good, no matter what, and it shows in how they treat patients.  

As for myself, I think I&#039;ve been lucky in that my primary docs and GYN have never really harped too much about my weight, though when I did go for my physical last year and asked not to be weighed, the medical assistant/nurse said that I HAD to do it and weighed me anyway.  However, on my most recent visit, interestingly enough, I got that same assistant, and when I asked not to be weighed, she didn&#039;t weigh me.  Hmmm...maybe she &quot;got it&quot; that time.  

I hope it gets better, but who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I type medical reports and I have heard doctors dictate biased reports when it comes to thin versus fat patients.  &#8220;This very pleasant thin woman&#8230;&#8221;    or   &#8220;Jane is a well-developed, well-nourished thin woman in fabulous shape&#8221;  versus Mrs. Jones is a morbidly obese patient&#8230;&#8221;    or &#8220;John Doe needs to lose 30 pounds in order to be in better shape&#8221;.   I even remember one doctor stating, referring to a thin patient, &#8220;Well, we don&#8217;t get those too much around this neck of the woods!&#8221;  It stands to serve that the bias that many so-called health professionals&#8217; attitudes when it comes to serving fat folks is the reason most fatties defer seeking preventative health care.  </p>
<p>There are very few fat-friendly health professionals out there because are taught that fat is bad, thin is good, no matter what, and it shows in how they treat patients.  </p>
<p>As for myself, I think I&#8217;ve been lucky in that my primary docs and GYN have never really harped too much about my weight, though when I did go for my physical last year and asked not to be weighed, the medical assistant/nurse said that I HAD to do it and weighed me anyway.  However, on my most recent visit, interestingly enough, I got that same assistant, and when I asked not to be weighed, she didn&#8217;t weigh me.  Hmmm&#8230;maybe she &#8220;got it&#8221; that time.  </p>
<p>I hope it gets better, but who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: How again is being fat socially acceptable? &#187; The-F-Word.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>How again is being fat socially acceptable? &#187; The-F-Word.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] insults, humiliation and verbal abuse they encounter from medical professionals who report being “repulsed” by their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lindsay S</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-49837</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to what Coco said about &#039;getting what you have,&#039; I&#039;m remembering a time in early high school when I a girl I&#039;d known previously had cancer. At the benefit dinner they held to raise money for her treatment, someone mentioned how she&#039;d lost 50 pounds while in chemo. At that time, I clearly remember thinking that I wished I could get some horrible disease or cancer or something so I could lose 50 pounds.

It makes me really sad to see just how much self-hatred is ground into people at a young age.

I&#039;m lucky in that I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve had a lot of problems with doctors/nurses/etc treating me badly because I&#039;m fat, but I have been notoriously oblivious to such things in the past.

From now on, though, I&#039;m going to do my best to stand up for myself at doctors&#039; offices. I don&#039;t mind the weighing, but I honestly don&#039;t want to know the number, because I&#039;ve been working very hard to stop associating my worth as a person with that number.

I am deathly afraid of getting a pelvic, though. At 25 I&#039;ve never done it, but will be looking over the list of fat friendly health professionals to try and find some in my area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to what Coco said about &#8216;getting what you have,&#8217; I&#8217;m remembering a time in early high school when I a girl I&#8217;d known previously had cancer. At the benefit dinner they held to raise money for her treatment, someone mentioned how she&#8217;d lost 50 pounds while in chemo. At that time, I clearly remember thinking that I wished I could get some horrible disease or cancer or something so I could lose 50 pounds.</p>
<p>It makes me really sad to see just how much self-hatred is ground into people at a young age.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m lucky in that I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve had a lot of problems with doctors/nurses/etc treating me badly because I&#8217;m fat, but I have been notoriously oblivious to such things in the past.</p>
<p>From now on, though, I&#8217;m going to do my best to stand up for myself at doctors&#8217; offices. I don&#8217;t mind the weighing, but I honestly don&#8217;t want to know the number, because I&#8217;ve been working very hard to stop associating my worth as a person with that number.</p>
<p>I am deathly afraid of getting a pelvic, though. At 25 I&#8217;ve never done it, but will be looking over the list of fat friendly health professionals to try and find some in my area.</p>
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		<title>By: Estrangement, entitlement, evaluation: questions arising at Hoyden About Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Estrangement, entitlement, evaluation: questions arising at Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TropicalChrome</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/26/reality-check-why-dont-fat-women-get-checked-for-cancer-of-the-nasty-bits/#comment-49088</link>
		<dc:creator>TropicalChrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to follow up on my question yesterday about weight and pap smears: no, there are no prescriptions of any kind involved, nothing other than the test. In fact, the doctor has a recent weight/BP on me because I was in for my annual check up about 6 weeks ago which do involve looking at the meds I&#039;m on and making sure they&#039;re working/doing the right things/no adverse side effects and I understand having the numbers is medically necessary for that kind of check.

Which is why I wondered if there was a medical reason they needed that data for something that didn&#039;t seem like it required it to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to follow up on my question yesterday about weight and pap smears: no, there are no prescriptions of any kind involved, nothing other than the test. In fact, the doctor has a recent weight/BP on me because I was in for my annual check up about 6 weeks ago which do involve looking at the meds I&#8217;m on and making sure they&#8217;re working/doing the right things/no adverse side effects and I understand having the numbers is medically necessary for that kind of check.</p>
<p>Which is why I wondered if there was a medical reason they needed that data for something that didn&#8217;t seem like it required it to me.</p>
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