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	<title>Comments on: Friday Stuff: Please Help us out with the 101 Crap</title>
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		<title>By: Fat Acceptance Primer &#171; Volcanista: a magmalicious blog</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-82821</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fat Acceptance Primer &#171; Volcanista: a magmalicious blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] it was written, but it&#8217;s a good start. There are also a large number of linked studies in this open thread, including links to some other 101-type posts. So before you start wailing about the OBESITY CRISIS [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it was written, but it&#8217;s a good start. There are also a large number of linked studies in this open thread, including links to some other 101-type posts. So before you start wailing about the OBESITY CRISIS [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thegirlfrommarz</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-47578</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thegirlfrommarz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hope this doesn&#039;t sound too crawly, as it&#039;s one of your own, but The Fantasy of Being Thin post really helped me:
http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/
Having the magical thinking about thinness written down like that helped me to see how ridiculous it is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope this doesn&#8217;t sound too crawly, as it&#8217;s one of your own, but The Fantasy of Being Thin post really helped me:<br />
<a href="http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/" rel="nofollow">http://kateharding.net/2007/11/27/the-fantasy-of-being-thin/</a><br />
Having the magical thinking about thinness written down like that helped me to see how ridiculous it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatadelic</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-47295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatadelic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps this could be a wiki project or some kind - restricted to Fatosphere bloggers maybe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this could be a wiki project or some kind &#8211; restricted to Fatosphere bloggers maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-47213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mickey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This might be better suited for a &quot;201&quot; than a &quot;101&quot;, but I for one would dearly love to see a &quot;You know you&#039;ve been reading Fatosphere blogs for too long when...&quot; page.  And, to kick things off, here&#039;s one for the list:

...when the spam you get makes you wonder why they&#039;re hawking Viagra to deal with Eating Disorders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might be better suited for a &#8220;201&#8243; than a &#8220;101&#8243;, but I for one would dearly love to see a &#8220;You know you&#8217;ve been reading Fatosphere blogs for too long when&#8230;&#8221; page.  And, to kick things off, here&#8217;s one for the list:</p>
<p>&#8230;when the spam you get makes you wonder why they&#8217;re hawking Viagra to deal with Eating Disorders.</p>
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		<title>By: Tangerina</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-47196</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tangerina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read this creedo over at Mouthfeel and wow wow wow, this is such a wonderful overview of a really healthy attitude towards nutrition:

http://peggynature.wordpress.com/nutrition-position-statement/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read this creedo over at Mouthfeel and wow wow wow, this is such a wonderful overview of a really healthy attitude towards nutrition:</p>
<p><a href="http://peggynature.wordpress.com/nutrition-position-statement/" rel="nofollow">http://peggynature.wordpress.com/nutrition-position-statement/</a></p>
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		<title>By: zenjen</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-47016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zenjen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found another article, the Reuter&#039;s article called &quot;Dieters put on weight int the long run: study&quot; at 
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN3036700020070402.  The failure rate of dieting that stated in this article is less than what&#039;s usually said here (this said that two-thirds people gain all the weight back and more), but it might be something to add.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found another article, the Reuter&#8217;s article called &#8220;Dieters put on weight int the long run: study&#8221; at<br />
<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN3036700020070402" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN3036700020070402</a>.  The failure rate of dieting that stated in this article is less than what&#8217;s usually said here (this said that two-thirds people gain all the weight back and more), but it might be something to add.</p>
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		<title>By: Arwen</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-47008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arwen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ashley, I&#039;ll see if I can dig it up: it&#039;s the CDC numbers that shocked me when backward adjusted with the new BMI catagories show that in the 60s 42% were overweight/obese compared to 60% now: so if we are heavier on average (more of us urban maybe?) then 2/3 of us may well have been fat before the obesity epidemic. 

Frankly, I know with my body, sedentary and not-cooking-at-home leads to about a 15 pound weight gain, above my body&#039;s happiest (fat) weight. So I find it plausable that there are some more genetically thin people who, if living a 60s lifestyle, would be about 15 pounds lighter - people whose parents worked in fields and factories but who work in offices today. 

But the *majority* of us fat folks would have been fat back then, and those of us to whom 15 pounds is laughable (putting nowhere near what BMI deems acceptable) seem likely to be in that category -- which makes all the obesity epidemic screaming really fucking unfair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashley, I&#8217;ll see if I can dig it up: it&#8217;s the CDC numbers that shocked me when backward adjusted with the new BMI catagories show that in the 60s 42% were overweight/obese compared to 60% now: so if we are heavier on average (more of us urban maybe?) then 2/3 of us may well have been fat before the obesity epidemic. </p>
<p>Frankly, I know with my body, sedentary and not-cooking-at-home leads to about a 15 pound weight gain, above my body&#8217;s happiest (fat) weight. So I find it plausable that there are some more genetically thin people who, if living a 60s lifestyle, would be about 15 pounds lighter &#8211; people whose parents worked in fields and factories but who work in offices today. </p>
<p>But the *majority* of us fat folks would have been fat back then, and those of us to whom 15 pounds is laughable (putting nowhere near what BMI deems acceptable) seem likely to be in that category &#8212; which makes all the obesity epidemic screaming really fucking unfair.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-46988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d like to see something about body size in history. It seems to me that the obesity panic is predicated on the idea that we&#039;re getting fatter now, that this is some effect of modern life, and that back in the good ol days (1800s?) everyone was skinny. 

So, something to debunk that idea would be grand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see something about body size in history. It seems to me that the obesity panic is predicated on the idea that we&#8217;re getting fatter now, that this is some effect of modern life, and that back in the good ol days (1800s?) everyone was skinny. </p>
<p>So, something to debunk that idea would be grand.</p>
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		<title>By: La di Da</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-46984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La di Da]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This paper, while not exactly pro-fat-aceptance, makes a pretty good attack on the effects of promoting anti-childhood-obesity programs, how anti-fat bias results in poorer health for fat people, the problems of medicalizing obesity, and suggests &#039;health at every size&#039; might be the way to go, and so on:

http://her.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/2/259

There are also links to other similar articles in the references and cited-by list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This paper, while not exactly pro-fat-aceptance, makes a pretty good attack on the effects of promoting anti-childhood-obesity programs, how anti-fat bias results in poorer health for fat people, the problems of medicalizing obesity, and suggests &#8216;health at every size&#8217; might be the way to go, and so on:</p>
<p><a href="http://her.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/2/259" rel="nofollow">http://her.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/20/2/259</a></p>
<p>There are also links to other similar articles in the references and cited-by list.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/03/07/friday-stuff-please-help-us-out-with-the-101-crap/#comment-46965</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peggy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;On a similar thread, I’ve always wanted to get together a big link hub for all of these studies/articles. I keep a whole file of bookmarks for ones that I find.&lt;/i&gt; 

Why not start a &lt;a href=&quot;http://del.icio.us/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;del.ico.us&lt;/a&gt; account to organize your bookmarks? The tagging makes it easy to categorize &amp; find the links, and there are built in tools for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On a similar thread, I’ve always wanted to get together a big link hub for all of these studies/articles. I keep a whole file of bookmarks for ones that I find.</i> </p>
<p>Why not start a <a href="http://del.icio.us/" rel="nofollow">del.ico.us</a> account to organize your bookmarks? The tagging makes it easy to categorize &amp; find the links, and there are built in tools for sharing.</p>
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