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		<title>By: History is written by the victors &#171; Life on Mars</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-70561</link>
		<dc:creator>History is written by the victors &#171; Life on Mars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would be much easier for girls to refuse when they are being told to give up a hobby or an ambition because &#8220;girls are just not good at that&#8220;, if they had more examples of women [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would be much easier for girls to refuse when they are being told to give up a hobby or an ambition because &#8220;girls are just not good at that&#8220;, if they had more examples of women [...]</p>
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		<title>By: alexandraerin</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45962</link>
		<dc:creator>alexandraerin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.viruscomix.com/reverse%20land.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this strip&lt;/a&gt;? It&#039;s another brilliant illustration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody seen <a href="http://www.viruscomix.com/reverse%20land.gif" rel="nofollow">this strip</a>? It&#8217;s another brilliant illustration.</p>
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		<title>By: sexism illustrated &#171; col&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45296</link>
		<dc:creator>sexism illustrated &#171; col&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 21, 2008 &#183; No Comments  thanks for the find, kate. i love [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 21, 2008 &middot; No Comments  thanks for the find, kate. i love [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eyelinerpirate</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45182</link>
		<dc:creator>eyelinerpirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fillyjonk,

Sorry for the lack of clarity -- you&#039;re right, the speaker is quite likely unaware of being sexist. What I meant to say was, the speaker is consciously discriminating against women. He&#039;s deliberately acting on a notion of inequality, and he&#039;s fully aware of his own perceptions.

By contrast, much systemic sexism can operate without anyone acknowledging, to themselves or anyone else, that a distinction is even being made. Even on the individual level, claiming &quot;equality has been achieved&quot; can be just as powerfully sexist as &quot;girls suck at math.&quot;

(Which is not, incidentally, to knock the comic. It illustrates what it wants to illustrate really well. I just feel like we should be reminded of the role of our institutions whenever possible.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fillyjonk,</p>
<p>Sorry for the lack of clarity &#8212; you&#8217;re right, the speaker is quite likely unaware of being sexist. What I meant to say was, the speaker is consciously discriminating against women. He&#8217;s deliberately acting on a notion of inequality, and he&#8217;s fully aware of his own perceptions.</p>
<p>By contrast, much systemic sexism can operate without anyone acknowledging, to themselves or anyone else, that a distinction is even being made. Even on the individual level, claiming &#8220;equality has been achieved&#8221; can be just as powerfully sexist as &#8220;girls suck at math.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Which is not, incidentally, to knock the comic. It illustrates what it wants to illustrate really well. I just feel like we should be reminded of the role of our institutions whenever possible.)</p>
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		<title>By: anniemcphee</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45162</link>
		<dc:creator>anniemcphee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woohoo!  It worked and now I have to read through the ENTIRE archive again so I can see all the alt text.   But that&#039;s a pleasant way to spend a couple hours, so fine :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woohoo!  It worked and now I have to read through the ENTIRE archive again so I can see all the alt text.   But that&#8217;s a pleasant way to spend a couple hours, so fine :)</p>
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		<title>By: Piffle</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45155</link>
		<dc:creator>Piffle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I never had a problem in my math classes; but I still remember feeling disdain and a bit of pity for the old-fashioned eighth grade history teacher who told me that I was &quot;very logical, for a girl&quot;.  I figured he didn&#039;t have the brains and/or flexibility to understand that girls were just as smart as boys.  Sometimes, a bit of youthful arrogance is a good thing.

As far as math itself goes, I can follow arguments through diffy-q; but I&#039;m not creative with math, so it wasn&#039;t the right field for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I never had a problem in my math classes; but I still remember feeling disdain and a bit of pity for the old-fashioned eighth grade history teacher who told me that I was &#8220;very logical, for a girl&#8221;.  I figured he didn&#8217;t have the brains and/or flexibility to understand that girls were just as smart as boys.  Sometimes, a bit of youthful arrogance is a good thing.</p>
<p>As far as math itself goes, I can follow arguments through diffy-q; but I&#8217;m not creative with math, so it wasn&#8217;t the right field for me.</p>
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		<title>By: zenjen</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45150</link>
		<dc:creator>zenjen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never really liked math since 4th grade when my teacher gave  students timed multiplication quizzes.  I know the point of them was to teach us to instantaneously remember the answer to problems like 3 x 6 and other combinations, but damn, I&#039;ve never been a super-fast kind of person.  I kept having to re-do quizzes because I couldn&#039;t finish them on time.  Worst part was that the teacher held a pizza party for people who had past the multiples of 10 quiz by a certain date, and I had just made it to multiples of 10 quiz right at the due date so I couldn&#039;t go to the party.

This and other events made me feel like I wasn&#039;t good enough in math, which was kind of ridiculous since I was usually in the honor classes for the advance math courses and earned A&#039;s until my pre-cal and calculus classes (B and C respectively).  When it came to standardized math tests though, I didn&#039;t do so great.   I guess what sucked was the feeling of being inept because I wasn&#039;t perfect at everything.

During my junior year my pre-calculus teacher asked how students felt about math and why during an introductory survey, and I wrote about how I disliked math because of the timed multiplication quizzes I had to take in 4th grade.  So what did she do?  She gave us timed quizzes!  They were on something to do with trigonometry, and needless to say, I didn&#039;t pass a single quiz ^_^.

Even though she did nothing to make me feel capable at math, the same pre-cal teacher was the one who inspired my step-sister to become a math teacher, so I guess it balances out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never really liked math since 4th grade when my teacher gave  students timed multiplication quizzes.  I know the point of them was to teach us to instantaneously remember the answer to problems like 3 x 6 and other combinations, but damn, I&#8217;ve never been a super-fast kind of person.  I kept having to re-do quizzes because I couldn&#8217;t finish them on time.  Worst part was that the teacher held a pizza party for people who had past the multiples of 10 quiz by a certain date, and I had just made it to multiples of 10 quiz right at the due date so I couldn&#8217;t go to the party.</p>
<p>This and other events made me feel like I wasn&#8217;t good enough in math, which was kind of ridiculous since I was usually in the honor classes for the advance math courses and earned A&#8217;s until my pre-cal and calculus classes (B and C respectively).  When it came to standardized math tests though, I didn&#8217;t do so great.   I guess what sucked was the feeling of being inept because I wasn&#8217;t perfect at everything.</p>
<p>During my junior year my pre-calculus teacher asked how students felt about math and why during an introductory survey, and I wrote about how I disliked math because of the timed multiplication quizzes I had to take in 4th grade.  So what did she do?  She gave us timed quizzes!  They were on something to do with trigonometry, and needless to say, I didn&#8217;t pass a single quiz ^_^.</p>
<p>Even though she did nothing to make me feel capable at math, the same pre-cal teacher was the one who inspired my step-sister to become a math teacher, so I guess it balances out.</p>
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		<title>By: AnnieMcPhee</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45142</link>
		<dc:creator>AnnieMcPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for the help in the rollover text; I&#039;m adding that thing to my Firefox browser tonight.

&quot;Sometimes I feel kind of bad for being one of those girls who really isn’t good at math.&quot;  

Don&#039;t worry, I feel the same way about being a FA who hates exercise, gets pretty little of it, and doesn&#039;t exactly always eat healthy stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for the help in the rollover text; I&#8217;m adding that thing to my Firefox browser tonight.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sometimes I feel kind of bad for being one of those girls who really isn’t good at math.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I feel the same way about being a FA who hates exercise, gets pretty little of it, and doesn&#8217;t exactly always eat healthy stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45133</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 01:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Em is right about the discussions.  They&#039;re a little disappointing, although they&#039;ve veered off of biology and are now a couple of people trying to explain to everyone else about privilege, and it&#039;s going off about as well as you would expect. (Like a lead balloon.)  

...Someone should go in and help them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Em is right about the discussions.  They&#8217;re a little disappointing, although they&#8217;ve veered off of biology and are now a couple of people trying to explain to everyone else about privilege, and it&#8217;s going off about as well as you would expect. (Like a lead balloon.)  </p>
<p>&#8230;Someone should go in and help them.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/02/18/sexism-illustrated/#comment-45119</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very good at math until my first year of high school algebra. I got the best score in the class on the first test and for some reason, it was all downhill from there. I guess I got bored. I really regretted it when I had to take algebra again in college and had a really, really hard time with it. 

I&#039;m sometimes ashamed of how bad I am with math because it&#039;s such a cliche. But I&#039;m not dumb enough to think that I&#039;m bad at math because I&#039;m a woman. I&#039;m bad at math because I just am! I&#039;m a &quot;linguistic thinker,&quot; if that even really exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very good at math until my first year of high school algebra. I got the best score in the class on the first test and for some reason, it was all downhill from there. I guess I got bored. I really regretted it when I had to take algebra again in college and had a really, really hard time with it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sometimes ashamed of how bad I am with math because it&#8217;s such a cliche. But I&#8217;m not dumb enough to think that I&#8217;m bad at math because I&#8217;m a woman. I&#8217;m bad at math because I just am! I&#8217;m a &#8220;linguistic thinker,&#8221; if that even really exists.</p>
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