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	<title>Comments on: Two Things</title>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39885</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing I love about them is how happy they look as a couple.  You don&#039;t see that often in the celebrity world. What I love about Keely specifically is her ease in being in her body -- she doesn&#039;t hold her body in that self-conscious unnatural way most women do when they know they&#039;re being photographed. It&#039;s more than that, really -- she positively revels in it (and Pierce clearly enjoys it as well.) I hadn&#039;t seen her in a bikini before, though -- it&#039;s something of a revelation to me to see a real-life goddess body of that size cavorting around in a bikini. She&#039;s just simply awesome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I love about them is how happy they look as a couple.  You don&#8217;t see that often in the celebrity world. What I love about Keely specifically is her ease in being in her body &#8212; she doesn&#8217;t hold her body in that self-conscious unnatural way most women do when they know they&#8217;re being photographed. It&#8217;s more than that, really &#8212; she positively revels in it (and Pierce clearly enjoys it as well.) I hadn&#8217;t seen her in a bikini before, though &#8212; it&#8217;s something of a revelation to me to see a real-life goddess body of that size cavorting around in a bikini. She&#8217;s just simply awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39712</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I ever looked that good I&#039;d be thrilled. I saw these pictures somewhere else earlier this week and it definitely was a more positive angle than TMZ&#039;s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I ever looked that good I&#8217;d be thrilled. I saw these pictures somewhere else earlier this week and it definitely was a more positive angle than TMZ&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39642</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Should just say &quot;sure, marriage is cool&quot; in 3rd paragraph...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should just say &#8220;sure, marriage is cool&#8221; in 3rd paragraph&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39638</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[shinobi, that is another good way of looking at it. I guess I didn&#039;t mean that people don&#039;t deserve a lot of credit for the work they put into their marriages and families (like a lot of things &quot;regular people&quot; do every day, sticking by a spouse may be common but that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not difficult depending on the circumstances), but you&#039;re right, I did kind of come off that way. For the record I have a ton of respect for all the people who face &quot;worse&quot; circumstances and somehow get through them and support their spouses through them. I am lucky... my husband is about the easiest man in the world to live with, and at 31 I am petrified to have kids despite that we are fortunate enough to have the financial means to raise them, mainly because I think it will be &quot;too hard.&quot; So I am definitely not putting myself in the &quot;noble&quot; category either.

I do still think, though, that most married people, while acknowledging that marriages are difficult and some much more difficult than others, would shy away from the rather condescending notion that they deserve some sort of hero credit for keeping their marriage vows. People by and large seem to rise to the necessary challenges and do what they need to do when tough circumstances arise. (See my final statement below, I am NOT casting aspersions on divorced people, or saying they were &quot;wrong&quot; to get a divorce--regardless of their personal reasons--and I really hope this is not coming off that way.)

Maybe a lot of my incredulity (and I admit, as a fat person I am totally biased here) is at the idea that someone deserves a medal for staying with a spouse who has gained weight. That is not even on my radar screen as a &quot;difficult&quot; situation to face. Stuff happens, bodies change, and I actually feel sort of sad for anyone who would be knocked for such a loop by their spouse gaining weight or getting saggy or getting gray hair or stretch marks or whatever, because given that people inevitably age and change, such a person is basically guaranteed never to be happy in a marriage. If the TMZ posters actually feel that strongly about this--sure, they marriage is cool, but only if their spouse signs a contract guaranteeing they will never become older, fatter, or uglier--then I sort of pity them because it will never happen the way they want it to.

But, like I said there are a lot of reasons couples grow apart, and attraction is a very personal thing. So I wouldn&#039;t presume to judge any individual situation since one usually doesn&#039;t have anywhere near all the facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shinobi, that is another good way of looking at it. I guess I didn&#8217;t mean that people don&#8217;t deserve a lot of credit for the work they put into their marriages and families (like a lot of things &#8220;regular people&#8221; do every day, sticking by a spouse may be common but that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not difficult depending on the circumstances), but you&#8217;re right, I did kind of come off that way. For the record I have a ton of respect for all the people who face &#8220;worse&#8221; circumstances and somehow get through them and support their spouses through them. I am lucky&#8230; my husband is about the easiest man in the world to live with, and at 31 I am petrified to have kids despite that we are fortunate enough to have the financial means to raise them, mainly because I think it will be &#8220;too hard.&#8221; So I am definitely not putting myself in the &#8220;noble&#8221; category either.</p>
<p>I do still think, though, that most married people, while acknowledging that marriages are difficult and some much more difficult than others, would shy away from the rather condescending notion that they deserve some sort of hero credit for keeping their marriage vows. People by and large seem to rise to the necessary challenges and do what they need to do when tough circumstances arise. (See my final statement below, I am NOT casting aspersions on divorced people, or saying they were &#8220;wrong&#8221; to get a divorce&#8211;regardless of their personal reasons&#8211;and I really hope this is not coming off that way.)</p>
<p>Maybe a lot of my incredulity (and I admit, as a fat person I am totally biased here) is at the idea that someone deserves a medal for staying with a spouse who has gained weight. That is not even on my radar screen as a &#8220;difficult&#8221; situation to face. Stuff happens, bodies change, and I actually feel sort of sad for anyone who would be knocked for such a loop by their spouse gaining weight or getting saggy or getting gray hair or stretch marks or whatever, because given that people inevitably age and change, such a person is basically guaranteed never to be happy in a marriage. If the TMZ posters actually feel that strongly about this&#8211;sure, they marriage is cool, but only if their spouse signs a contract guaranteeing they will never become older, fatter, or uglier&#8211;then I sort of pity them because it will never happen the way they want it to.</p>
<p>But, like I said there are a lot of reasons couples grow apart, and attraction is a very personal thing. So I wouldn&#8217;t presume to judge any individual situation since one usually doesn&#8217;t have anywhere near all the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: magickitty</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39455</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TOTALLY off-topic, but when I saw &lt;i&gt;Casino Royale&lt;/i&gt;, I totally missed the Daniel-Craig-rising-from-the-surf thing and instead kept thinking, &quot;Damn, he looks great in a suit. More suits!&quot;

Keely looks amazing. Pierce&#039;s belly looks like my belly. (Except more hair.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOTALLY off-topic, but when I saw <i>Casino Royale</i>, I totally missed the Daniel-Craig-rising-from-the-surf thing and instead kept thinking, &#8220;Damn, he looks great in a suit. More suits!&#8221;</p>
<p>Keely looks amazing. Pierce&#8217;s belly looks like my belly. (Except more hair.)</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deborah Lipp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[betsy, Bruce Willis was Moonlighting; Pierce was Remington Steele.

Some Bond fans have been pretty snide about Pierce as well, because Bond&#039;s body is supposed to be perfect, and Pierce has actually said what a relief it is to not have to work out so intensely all the time since he no longer has the role. Not that there isn&#039;t sexism (ha!) but he&#039;s in that group of men that suffers body-ism (body-ism?) even though he&#039;s in the ruling class of the patriarchy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>betsy, Bruce Willis was Moonlighting; Pierce was Remington Steele.</p>
<p>Some Bond fans have been pretty snide about Pierce as well, because Bond&#8217;s body is supposed to be perfect, and Pierce has actually said what a relief it is to not have to work out so intensely all the time since he no longer has the role. Not that there isn&#8217;t sexism (ha!) but he&#8217;s in that group of men that suffers body-ism (body-ism?) even though he&#8217;s in the ruling class of the patriarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39266</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlotte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I had her confidence...I&#039;m one of the most self conscious 20 somethings I know!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had her confidence&#8230;I&#8217;m one of the most self conscious 20 somethings I know!</p>
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		<title>By: LT</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39254</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Emerald - 

That&#039;s been my experience so far, and it&#039;s always great to hear that it&#039;s not unusual - I think a big part of sexism is making women afraid of the period when we&#039;re actually hitting our stride .  . . so even though lots of women are happier in their 30s or 40s than in their 20s, it&#039;s still kind of subversive to say it .. .like so what if you&#039;re more confident, have had more life expereinces, and make more money. You&#039;re not 21! Aren&#039;t you depressed about that!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emerald &#8211; </p>
<p>That&#8217;s been my experience so far, and it&#8217;s always great to hear that it&#8217;s not unusual &#8211; I think a big part of sexism is making women afraid of the period when we&#8217;re actually hitting our stride .  . . so even though lots of women are happier in their 30s or 40s than in their 20s, it&#8217;s still kind of subversive to say it .. .like so what if you&#8217;re more confident, have had more life expereinces, and make more money. You&#8217;re not 21! Aren&#8217;t you depressed about that!</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always loved Pierce for some reason. I don&#039;t usually like the handsome, &quot;perfect&quot; type. But anyway, here&#039;s a tangential ageism-related comment. Way before his wife died or even became ill, I was aware of her and had the impression that she was much older than he. I thought that was really &quot;cool&quot; of him, for various social-norm-poisoned reasons. (&quot;It&#039;s cool when the guy is younger, it&#039;s cool that he doesn&#039;t care,&quot; bla-bla-blah.) Well, I just looked up Cassandra Harris, and you know how much older she was? Five teensy years! BFD. Why did I think it was so much bigger an age difference? Thank you, ageist patriarchy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always loved Pierce for some reason. I don&#8217;t usually like the handsome, &#8220;perfect&#8221; type. But anyway, here&#8217;s a tangential ageism-related comment. Way before his wife died or even became ill, I was aware of her and had the impression that she was much older than he. I thought that was really &#8220;cool&#8221; of him, for various social-norm-poisoned reasons. (&#8220;It&#8217;s cool when the guy is younger, it&#8217;s cool that he doesn&#8217;t care,&#8221; bla-bla-blah.) Well, I just looked up Cassandra Harris, and you know how much older she was? Five teensy years! BFD. Why did I think it was so much bigger an age difference? Thank you, ageist patriarchy!</p>
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		<title>By: Patsy Nevins</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2008/01/21/two-things-2/#comment-39240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patsy Nevins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the correction about James Dean, but my point stands.  Strangely enough, people on tv over the years have been saying a lot that he died at 21.  I was about 6 or 7 when he died, so I have no actual memories of him.

And thanks for correcting me about Cassandra &amp; Pierce.  I remember hearing when she gave birth to what was called &#039;their&#039; third child, but, as I say, I really do not do much celebrity-watching.  And, yes, he knows about loss &amp; pain &amp; I have an idea that perhaps it has helped him to have a better perspective on life &amp; on what really matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction about James Dean, but my point stands.  Strangely enough, people on tv over the years have been saying a lot that he died at 21.  I was about 6 or 7 when he died, so I have no actual memories of him.</p>
<p>And thanks for correcting me about Cassandra &amp; Pierce.  I remember hearing when she gave birth to what was called &#8216;their&#8217; third child, but, as I say, I really do not do much celebrity-watching.  And, yes, he knows about loss &amp; pain &amp; I have an idea that perhaps it has helped him to have a better perspective on life &amp; on what really matters.</p>
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