Open for Discussion: Linkies

I’ll show you fat: Was anyone else not impressed by Jennifer Love Hewitt’s bold, fearless declaration that “a size 2 is not fat” as some kind of giant leap forward for fatkind? Yeah. Well, in case you were inexplicably inclined to hold her up as a hero of fat positivity, check out her 2005 Halloween costume. HI-larious! (Via BFD.)

“I’m trying to eat healthy”: Eleanor Blair sent us this awesome cartoon as a companion to the Food: The Other Great Equalizer post.

BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA: The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released a report on the health of the nation last week, which tells us that life expectancy is up (at a record high, in fact), heart disease and cancer deaths are down,  91% of Americans report being in good or excellent health, and the thing most likely to kill you is, as it’s always been, getting old. All of the above improvements in health and quality of life have happened since the advent of the  “obesity crisis,” natch. But don’t break out the champagne just yet, says the HHS. Why? Still fat!

We all scream: Check out Harriet’s latest in The New York Times.

59 thoughts on “Open for Discussion: Linkies

  1. Concerning the NYT article….I don’t know….I have a hard time believing that people just stand around in a grocery store aisle waiting to discourage people from choosing high calorie/fat/carb foods.

    I live in Colorado, which is an incredibily health concious state. Now granted, I live in a lower income area of Colorado and generally shop in the local grocery stores. I have never had someone look at me with disapproval for a pint of ice cream in my cart. But then, depending on the trip my cart may be full of vegetables and meat or cookies, chips and frozen pizza.

    I still have a hard time with the idea that women(she only mentions women), young and old, have the time or interest to disapprove of a stranger’s food choices.

  2. Buffy, do you ever read comments on articles about the obesity crisis? It’s pages and pages of people expressing their disapproval of the food choices of strangers. If people find the time and energy to do it on the internet, why not in person? I don’t think it’s a matter of people “standing around in the grocery store aisle waiting to discourage people”, just people who walk by, see the items other people are putting in their carts, and shake their heads.

    Then again, I think sometimes it just feels like people are disapproving of you. Buying actual ice cream with actual fat in it is such an action condemned so strongly by society that I can see how it would feel like everyone must be staring at you in disapproval.

  3. Oh, I don’t have any problem imagining people giving others the stink-eye if they were loading up on “bad” foods. We live in a world where people think it’s perfectly appropriate to march up to a fat person and deliver a laundry list of insults for simply existing; a little passive-aggressive tsk-tsking isn’t too far out of the realm of reality in my book.

    As for Jennifer Love Hewitt…I love how she’s held up as this gutsy woman for daring to shriek “SIZE 2 ISN’T FAT!”. There’s nothing gutsy about perpetuating the use of the word “fat” as a venom-laden insult/horrific descriptor. If she truly wanted to be gutsy!!!!!!, she would have laid out all the reasons why there’s nothing wrong with being fat or thin and how everyone should rock what they’ve got regardless if it jiggles, wobbles, is soft and mushy or hard as rock.

    It’s nice to dream sometimes.

  4. Don’t get me wrong, the “Hollywood ideal” is insane, and the push for thinner and thinner women is crazy (anybody seen the latest round of annoying ubiquitous GAP ads? sooo many bones sticking out, it kinda scares me)….but JLH is clearly no champion for big girls. Her reaction seems less about “all bodies are awesome” and more about “I AM NOT FAT!” Here’s my surprise face.

    And I loved Harriet’s NYT piece. (Although to be honest, the only judgment I’ve experienced at the grocery freezer was someone getting pissed that I fogged up the door so they couldn’t see the Ben & Jerry’s without opening the door themselves.)

  5. I LOVE the sinfest cartoon! That’s the best.

    JLH in a fat suit– well, at least she didn’t put it on and do some sort of expose on what life as a fat person is like. I hate it when celebrities do that.

    And the article– I can totally see people wondering what the heck two people are doing in the icecream isle trying to find the icecream with the most calories in it. I could have helped them with that– get something with nuts in it, yo.

  6. Oh, I don’t have any problem imagining people giving others the stink-eye if they were loading up on “bad” foods.

    Me neither. I mean, somebody’s got to be peeking into fatties’ grocery carts all the time, so they can go tell the internets how they were FULL OF JUNK FOOD! And I do believe Harriet is fat (by some standard or other). They were probably worried that she was teaching her recovering-anorexic daughter terrible eating habits that would doom her to a lifetime of fatness. *eyeroll*

    Having said that, it’s also entirely possible that they perceived something that wasn’t there. It happens. But the reason we sometimes perceive judgment that’s not there at a particular moment is that judgment fucking abounds in general. So… yeah.

  7. I was in a supermarket, comparison shopping salad dressings, when a little old lady walked up to me and said, “Too much sugar!”
    “Excuse me?”
    “Too much sugar! It’s why you’re so fat!”
    “Excuse me,” I said again, and walked away.

    In other words, I think it happened the way Ms. Brown says it did.

  8. Good grief.

    “Too much bile.”
    “Excuse me?”
    “Too much bile. That’s why you’re such a horrible person.”

  9. Oh yeah, iiii. My (much fatter) sister and I used to work in the same gourmet food store, and more than one customer helpfully suggested that she “lay off the merchandise” while they were checking out. Unbelievable.

  10. I was in a supermarket, comparison shopping salad dressings, when a little old lady walked up to me and said, “Too much sugar!”
    “Excuse me?”
    “Too much sugar! It’s why you’re so fat!”
    “Excuse me,” I said again, and walked away.

    Things like this convince me that I’m absolutely correct to never go out in public alone without headphones.

  11. Sniper, lol!

    I feel very prescient; I was just looking at the J.Lo.Hew photos in the checkout line yesterday, and saying to Dan how everyone is getting all gushy about her “a size 2 is not fat” post but how it boils down to “you shouldn’t say that people are fat as long as they really aren’t fat” with an implied “but if they are fat, hoo boy, open season!”

  12. Well, like I said, my cart could be filled with crap or it could be filled with healthy foods. It depends on the trip and my general want to prepare food and cook it during that week. I guess maybe I don’t pay attention. I am sure there are plenty of people casting judgement, but I don’t have the time or the inclination to care anymore.

    Rant coming….as I’ve said. I read this blog for hope, but also for ammo. At some point, I know myself well enough to know that I fight back. I don’t take crap lying down and I will fight for my right to eat a goddamn cookie. I don’t care if you feel guilty, or if you spend three hours on a treadmill to burn off everything you’ve eaten. I don’t care what diet you’re on, or what size pants you wear. I know there are women and men out there with larger struggles and America’s obession with weight or lack thereof sheds light on the fact that a lot of us don’t really have to struggle. A struggle was created for us. It’s just wrong how many people, myself included at one point, buy into it….

  13. My husband is one of those skinny, sweet-loving people who can pretty much eat anything he wants without raising his BMI past 21. I’m hypoglycemic and more of a savory-taste person anyway so I don’t eat many sweets (not even doughnuts!). He tends to run out of “life-saving” snacks like chocolate cookies or coconut ice-cream all at once, so I often load up on crap food at the grocery store. I can[‘t tell you how often I’ve stifled the urge to yell, “this is for my husband” at some amateur food cop. They don’t usually say anything, just peer in the cart and nod like it explains everything.

  14. wow…that pic of JLH in the fat suit should be released along with her comment! (and I really don’t believe she is even a size 2!)

    I used to have people comment on things in my cart ALL the time. It got so bad that I would only grocery shop late and night. and then I would come home and hide the food I had bought. I’ve been fat and I’ve been very, very thin….and now i”m somewhere in between. The food issues never go away though.

  15. … Jennifer Love Hewitt’s costume is a knee slapper….

    wow….they just shouldn’t sell shit like that.
    do they just think that everyone will love it and no one
    will be offended? i literally don’t understand.

  16. I have a dumb question. Is it possible the JLH was parodying herself, because she gets called derogatory size-related names in the press? Maybe the costume was her way of saying she wasn’t afraid of being fat and she wasn’t sorry for eating.

  17. eden, me too with the tearing!

    and yeah, not really impressed with j.lo.hew either. seems like the whole “women should love their bodies” thing means “love mine, ’cause i’m still skinnier than most!”

    queen latifah cheerfully telling the world that she carries her 200 lbs with pride, well, that’s something else entirely . . .

  18. iiii, nobody ever says things like that to me. I don’t know why. It’s certainly not because I’m not fat enough for a drive-by. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I look like I’m the kind of person who’d say something in return like, “Been a while since your last orgasm, hasn’t it?”

  19. Even worse about the in public scrutiny? When they start giving me “healthy eating tips” for my children in front of my ‘overweight’ disabled son. We had this happen yesterday when we were in Target picking up ice cream post-vaccination. This ever so sweet, ever so helpful lady suggested that instead of ice cream, there was a great selection of sugar free Jello a couple of cases down.
    *headdesk*
    My darling son immediately piped up that ice cream was healthy, and that Jello would put him in the hospital. It was kind of fun to watch her turn as red as the aforementioned Jello.
    So yes, people do confront in public.

    And yes, Ice Cream is healthy- especially the gourmet kinds.

  20. I’ve had people give me diet tips in grocery stores and I’ve had little old ladies actually TAKE things out of my basket because “I don’t need to eat that.”

    Thankfully it hasn’t happened lately. I’ve had some people look me up and down as I put stuff on the belt, but if one fucker dares to open their mouth, they’ll be really fucking sorry.

    Gee. And people ask me why I’m so defensive about food.

  21. Sorry to interrupt, but have you seen this?! http://myfatspouse.com/
    This whole site is some sort of joke I don’t get, right? RIGHT?! Or I’m going to cry myself to sleep tonight.

    “With the exception of a few people with “fat fetishes”, having sex with your fat wife or husband either feels obligatory, or meets the bare standard of releasing you’re pent up sexual desire.”

  22. This whole site is some sort of joke I don’t get, right? RIGHT?! Or I’m going to cry myself to sleep tonight.

    Sorry.

    And sorry that there are such people in the world, but there are.

  23. Em, SANITY WATCHERS! Those people are lunatics and don’t deserve your attention or your tears (or even your pity).

    Besides, I’ve looked at a couple pages (the things I do for you guys!) and it seems to be mostly two or three dudes. The news that there are a couple of jackalopes who like to sit around comparing cock sizes and complaining about their pathetic lives… that’s not worth crying over, right? It’s not even news!

  24. If she truly wanted to be gutsy!!!!!!, she would have laid out all the reasons why there’s nothing wrong with being fat or thin and how everyone should rock what they’ve got regardless if it jiggles, wobbles, is soft and mushy or hard as rock.

    Jae, AGREED.

    I was in the supermarket the other day staring at the new People magazine cover of J Love’s BRAVE declaration that she is not fat, at a size 2. How is that brave? And she says she cares about the self-esteem of all women out there… puh-lease. All I hear from her is, “Size 2 isn’t fat, but size 4!? Ew. Please. Like I’d ever be seen as a size 4.”

  25. There is also an “Ask the Queen” section on Queen Latifah’s web site. I dropped her a question… doubting she will answer it, but here’s what it said:

    “Why did you feel that pairing with Jenny Craig was actually a good way to be a positive role model for females?

    If anything, you just did what all sell-out celebrities do, make sure the whole world loses weight so they can be happy. You were the last celebrity I had faith in… the one I considered to be above the media’s call for thinness. I understand the diabetes thing, but Jenny Craig? You might as well have teamed up with Atkins. A better sponsor would have been, *gasp*, diabetes prevention foundations? But no, Jenny Craig was the one that could sponsor your tour. Another sell-out to the Hollywood machine.”

    The question will probably never get to her… hell, she probably doesn’t even answer the questions ON her site, but at least I said something. Thanks to bigmovesbabe for that tip.

  26. BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA MUAHAHAHAHAHA

    Oh. A size 2 is not fat??? Oh. So that means that before I suddenly got sick and dropped weight(not on purpose, mind you), when I was usually a 4 or a 5, I was fat? (Not that I would care either way, but still… this compares to the ridiculousness of BMI)

    Her Halloween costume is ridiculous.

    Krista: I don’t have kids, probably never will, but if someone did that in front of my child, they WOULD probably be hanging off the nearest product rack. So I admire your restraint.

  27. Good grief.

    “Too much bile.”
    “Excuse me?”
    “Too much bile. That’s why you’re such a horrible person.”

    *RIPOSTE OF THE DAY*

    JLove’s fat suit must have been a size 6.

    BLECH.

    That is all.

  28. Gosh, nobody ever says anything when I buy ice cream. Nor do they give me the “evil eye.” I think they must sense I would probably give them a piece of my mind. (So of course they never do…)

  29. I think some of you guys are reading too much negativity into the size 2 thing. I guess you could read it as “…and everything bigger than size 2 is fat, ick”, but that’s not how I saw it.

    More like “You people are looking at a woman who is a SIZE TWO and thinking she’s fat? That’s not even at the fringes of an arguably correct evaluation of size. That’s flat out BATSHIT CRAZY. You people are CLINICALLY INSANE. You are at the point where you think EVERYONE is fat (and probably coming in the night to EAT YOU UP!!! OOOGA BOOGA!!!)”. Not a comment about fat people or a comparison, but an attempt to point out just how crazy these standards have gotten.

    (What’s really scary is the comments on some of the sites that covered this whole thing. “Size Two is too fat!”)

  30. Jaed, I think it’s possible to read it both ways, and unless somebody here knows J. Love personally, it’s tough to say which is correct. I mostly take issue with the way the media’s been making her out to be some sort of size acceptance hero, because she told some people off for calling her fat. I mean, good for her for not just taking it, and as you say, it does shed light on how insane people have become about this. I just don’t think we should be carrying her around on our fatty shoulders because she dared to say her size 2 ass isn’t fat, you know?

  31. I’ve never had anyone comment about my shopping cart…but I don’t understand little old ladies thinking they can say whatever comes to mind to strangers..

    Here’s my experience with my one little old lady drive by.

    Once, I was at a book store, and there was this lady, probably sixty or sixty five, reading a book and snickering to herself. She looks up, spots me a row away and says, “Hey, come here and look at this”. Yeah, I think it’s weird, but strangers talk to me all the time (I figure it’s the blue hair or something), so I go over and look at the book she was reading. It was a book by a fat woman about how to sew and crochet large sized fashions. She pointed to a picture in the book of the aforementioned fat lady and said, “Look at her. She thinks she looks like a queen…but she looks ridiculous.” I was kind of gobsmacked because I guessed what she meant right away, but erring on the side of caution I asked, “Why? She looks just fine to me…so what’s the problem?” To which the lady replied, “But she’s so fat! How can she think she looks good?!”

    Okay, so now I’m mad. I replied, “Are you freaking kidding me? I’M fat.” Immediately sensing her mistake, she starts to backpedal…”No…not fat like HER.” And I go, “Listen lady. I weigh 250 pounds, and there’s nothing wrong with that. And there’s nothing wrong with that lady, she looks fabulous. There’s not a damn thing wrong with being fat, and too damn bad for you if you think there is. Everybody deserves nice clothes, and RESPECT….so why don’t you keep your bigoted opinions to yourself.” And I walked away.

    I was so shocked that I actually had the presence of mind to say something. I consider that a personal triumph. Still, what kind of idiot SAYS THINGS LIKE THAT to strangers? Oh yeah…idiotic ones.

  32. Oh, I’ve got a good story for you! (Concerning Harriet’s experience at the store)

    My mom and I were shopping, picking up some cereal for my dad. All of a sudden, this elderly man stars yelling about the cereal. It went something like this:

    “WHY IS THIS CEREAL SO EXPENSIVE? DOES THIS STORE KNOW HOW MANY AMERICANS ARE OBESE? NO WONDER, THEY CAN’T AFFORD THIS CEREAL!”

    He goes to the end of the aisle, turns around with his hand up in the air, and yells, “CRISIS!”

    I learned a very valuable lesson that day – cereal will cure the OBESITY CRISIS!!

    : )

  33. Vexaster- Thank you, and I might of, but he did such a good job himself it was not necessary. He has an anaphylactic reaction to artificial food dyes, and that shut her up right there.

    If you think about it, if he never eats anything with food dye in it (and he is careful- 1 hospital trip is all it took), then he eats very little food that we label ‘bad’.

  34. “I feel very prescient; I was just looking at the J.Lo.Hew photos in the checkout line yesterday, and saying to Dan how everyone is getting all gushy about her “a size 2 is not fat” post but how it boils down to “you shouldn’t say that people are fat as long as they really aren’t fat” with an implied “but if they are fat, hoo boy, open season!””

    Likewise – and what’s weird is that now that I wrote about this on my blog, after the Halloween Costume pictures have come out, it seems like some people still don’t get it. I guess some people believe people are inherently good and others think they are inherently bad. I happen to fall in the latter camp, no matter how much I want to like JLH.

  35. He goes to the end of the aisle, turns around with his hand up in the air, and yells, “CRISIS!”

    OMG, that’s the best ever. I find that so fucking hilarious, I can’t even be offended.

    CRISIS!

  36. Melena, you are totally awesome for telling off that woman. I hope she went home ashamed of herself.

    You know, I’ve always looked forward to being an old lady because of this perception I have that they can say whatever they want, no matter how socially inappropriate it is. I’m really disappointed to hear that so many are using this superpower to shame fat people.

  37. CRISIS! Bwahahaha.

    No one has commented on my food choices at the grocery store, but I still feel self-conscious when buying the snacks that mr. llamas loves. Pringles and Drumsticks and whatnot. It’s actually been coworkers whom I barely know that have felt it necessary to comment upon my eating habits. Sitting at my desk eating a Butterfinger: “You know where that’s going to go, don’t you?” Carrying my lunch down the hall: “What’s a pretty girl like you doing eating fries?” Taking a handful of freaking plain popcorn from a tin: “Better be careful with that, you need to watch your figure.” Gah. I barely even know your names, so STFU about my food.

  38. I was just having a conversation the other day with a co-worker regarding good and bad foods. I hope I handled it OK. She’s lost about 80 pounds and god forbid she eat a Hershey kiss from the office candy dish. No, no! But she doesn’t stop there. She makes others feel bad for eating anything that’s not salad or fruit. It’s just out of control. I told her that yes, there may be good and bad food CHOICES. But food does not make you a good/bad person. Eating a piece of candy should never be a moral decision. Even if she would just shut up about it, it would be easier to take. If you don’t want candy then walk by the dish. If you do, take it and eat it. Don’t scold someone or eat a piece and then lament on how you’ll go to the gym later. I’m about to drop an F-bomb! It gets me so frustrated. 0-60 in 3 seconds! Ha!

  39. She’s lost about 80 pounds and god forbid she eat a Hershey kiss from the office candy dish. No, no! But she doesn’t stop there. She makes others feel bad for eating anything that’s not salad or fruit.

    I guess she feels that because she isn’t doing what she wants, none of you should either. I applaud you for not having smacked her yet *lol*.

  40. Jaed, I interpreted it that way too. And I do think it’s good for all the girls and women who look like JLH and think their bodies are ugly and unacceptable to hear someone say that their body is fine and they should love it and enjoy it. But I did wonder whether the comments about women loving and enjoying their bodies would extend to women who are actually fat. And the fat suit would indicate that… they don’t. Which is disappointing.

  41. I’ve gotten mooed at while working out; maybe why I love my gym. Twice on a bike (when I was a size 12!), and more recently as a larger woman out jogging.

    I’ve never had an ice cream drive-by, but I’ve had similar cart fear.

    I had a regular cashier say “Wow! You always buy a lot of vegetables!” He was just making conversation: he didn’t give me the impression that he was saying “…for a fat person…”: in fact, he seemed proud that I was feeding my kids well. He knows and likes my kids. In other words, it was benign in intent.

    (( Maybe he can tell the doctor for me about my cart of veggies. My eldest is by no sane measure fat, but he’s stocky, muscled, and slightly “heavy”. I’ve heard about this from a number of doctors, but only AFTER they’ve weighed him, because you cannot tell looking at him. It’s like their eyes shut off once they’ve got the number.))

    Anyway, the cashier was being nice, but it still made me uncomfortable. And ever after, if I was going through his till, I’d worry about what the cart said about me. I finally caught on to what I was doing when I was standing in front of the whole wheat pasta and deciding my budget couldn’t stretch (WTF IS THAT, by the way?), and actively *blushed* when reaching for the white pasta.

    Blushed?!?

    I carry the eyes on my cart with me, obviously. I think it’s really sad that I internalized so much shame in my years of dieting that my cashier’s innocuous comment, based only on long term exposure to one another, ended up ricocheting in my head.

  42. Although, yeah, I get NOW – and I’m sure others do too – that the “feeding my kids well” part is part of the whole societal problem.

  43. Work is the absolute worst. My husband is a man of size, and there was one old job of his from over ten years ago where people felt perfectly free to make remarks and tell jokes. (His current place is, fortunately, very accepting in that regard.)

    Strangers have also felt free to yell stuff at him on the street.

    W/r/t the grocery store, we have yet to encounter a drive-by. But I read some calorie-restriction blogs, and there have been several grocery-store-related posts here and there where (a) the restrictor evinces horror that the checkout guy can’t recognize endive or brussels sprouts, or (b) the restrictor sees a person of size and reports on their blog that “I could have helped!! I could have made some real simple suggestions for changes that she *barely would have noticed* that would have *helped so much!*”

    (Calorie-restrictors tend to believe that people of size don’t know about healthy food. I think if they read something like Kate’s potato post, they’d be shocked–and deeply, deeply scared–to see that Kate can size up portions and estimate calories every bit as well as they can. Because it didn’t “save” her! Oh no!) (Lots of restrictors who blog are less than five years into their plan.)

  44. (a) the restrictor evinces horror that the checkout guy can’t recognize endive or brussels sprouts

    Oh, Jesus Murphy. ‘Cause clearly, being unable to identify endive is a fat thing, not a class thing.

  45. I’m really baffled as to how fat woman are left out of the statement “And like ALL woman out there should, I love my body?” Did she say “Like all slim woman out there should, I love my body because at least I’m not a disgusting fatty.”? Um, no. Since there’s nothing particularly offensive in her statement (except that she points out that she’s not fat, but she isn’t, so what’s offensive about the truth?), you show us a “smoking gun” picture of her wearing a silly fat suit for Halloween taken years ago – “AHA!! I knew she hated teh fatties! Now I have proof! Look at these pictures and tell us you still respect her statement, which was anti-fat anyway so you should never have respected it in the first place!!”

    If you really want to turn me against her you’ll have to uncover her kindergarten essay titled “I Want To Be The First Size 0 President (or maybe size 2 – but not any fatter or I’ll be like, totally gross!)” which will prove that ruthless ambition and aspirations for extreme skinniness have been her main agenda from the start!

  46. Oh, for god’s sake, Rose. I’m not trying to “turn anyone against” JLH, nor did I say I knew she hated fatties. I’m saying, A) I’ve been thinking this whole time that it’s fucking ludicrous how “Size 2 is not fat!” has been painted as some kind of courageous size acceptance battle cry in the media all week, and B) 2 years ago, the same person wore a costume that I, as a fat person, find incredibly fucking offensive. So maybe we could all quit licking her ass, you know?

  47. “I could have helped!! I could have made some real simple suggestions for changes that she *barely would have noticed* that would have *helped so much!*”

    I love that fucking mentality. “Help” what, exactly? Help make delicious brownies? No, I don’t think your low-fat substitution is going to help with that. Help that person feel better that day? As Krista’s Jello story shows, that’s not likely either. DEAR FELLOW SHOPPERS: STFU.

    (I know they’re not reading us here, but please imagine me yelling in the grocery store aisles instead of in this thread.)

  48. Rose, “Love your body!” often means “Love your body unless you’re actually fat, in which case you should despise it and fight against it and try to change it – you know, for your health”. Case in point, Queen Latifah’s Jenny Craig sponsorship, where she says “Love your curves” while espousing a weight loss message. It’s really impossible to say which JLH means but the fact that she wore a fat suit and accessorised it with a freaking hot dog and ice cream is evidence to me that she means the latter.

    I love that fucking mentality. “Help” what, exactly?

    Help lose weight. Because that should be the goal of every fat person, and we need the help of strangers in doing so whether we ask for it or not.

  49. I assume Jennifer Love Hewitt, like 95% of America and probably 100% of Hollywood, is more or less fat-phobic. Nevertheless, she spoke out with grace and common sense against women being cruelly mocked about their bodies, and in favor of self-acceptance. Nothin’ wrong with that. (Also, she’s working with Camryn Manheim now, so I bet there’s been some consciousness-raising on the set.)

  50. Hm. I totally agree that its ridiculous to see JLH’s comments as some type of size acceptance heroics.

    Even without the whole fat costume thing, even if u assume that she did not mean that a larger size than 2 is fat, STILL the reaction is unwarranted. Without even getting into how cool it would be if she truly did celebrate all sizes (i don’t expect that of her just cuz i don’t expect it from the average person, let alone the average holywood actor, given how misinformed and brainwashed everyone is).
    The fact is – it’s not that she’s somehow horrible. It’s just that seeing this as a celebration of size acceptance is ridiculous.

    I also read that she said how these photos were taken from an unflattering angle, etc. It would have been cool if she had jsut said “fuck yeah, that’s what we stars look like without the airbrushing and there is NOTHING wrong with thta, so all u girls out there stop trying to mimic an ideal that doesn’t even exist.” If she cared about the girls out there so much, she’s say that. But I don’t expect that from her, she has her hangups just like everyone else… They can’t all be as honest about the retouching stuff as Kate Winslet.

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