72 thoughts on “Campos Knocks It out of the Park Again

  1. Wow. Campos pretty much spells out in words of two syllables and under how ridiculous the idea of “overweight” is.

    What I don’t get is the lumping together of all risks for that 5’4″ person. The overweight BMI range is tiny whereas the obese range is very large. If she weighs over 175lbs then her risk is seen as being the same as someone who weighs 600+lbs.

    This seems somewhat scientifically suspect, let alone the premise that all people of the same BMI will have the same outcome and are therefore denied medical intervention on this basis. Yep, the BMI is a crock of shit.

    I hope Campos keeps getting opportunities to put his/our points across.

  2. Sanity Watchers warning: stay away from the comments. Not all, but many are in the form “Campos must be full of it because everyone knows overweight people are unhealthy and have a hard time moving around plus they are unattractive to me.”

    I wish we used the energy we spend on limiting and stigmatizing children’s food choices and spent it on better critical thinking and reading comprehension education.

    That said, I love Campos and TNR.

  3. FJ – I stupidly just read the comments and now I feel ready to slap some bitches! The ignorance and prejudice of the general public is pretty vile.

  4. Thanks for posting that link! I was talking to a coworker about this same idea just yesterday. These studies that say “overweight” people have such higher risks than “normal weight” people never appear to take the people’s family history into account. Results from a study on heart attacks and weight cold easily be skewed by one person who has a family history of heart disease; that may be completely unrelated to the person’s weight!

    Anyway, the BMI scale is so skewed I find it sickening. Kudos to Camos!

  5. I too read the comments. I especially enjoyed the one from the man who said that if I wanted to be a beloved film or television star or if I wanted into his bed, I better be thinner.

    The article itself = awesomeness.

  6. FJ, I went off of SanityWatchers. My SanityWeighIn is going to be depressing this week. :-( But I did find this gem, so maybe it was worth it:

    **I teach high school and see young people have horrible self worth because of their (real) weight issues.**

    Wow, apparently fat causes some sort of medical process that lead to low self-esteem! That MUST be what’s going on there!

  7. I especially enjoyed the one from the man who said that if I wanted to be a beloved film or television star or if I wanted into his bed, I better be thinner.

    Hee! Yeah, that was about as far as I got with the comments, but I found it fascinating that someone actually said, “So what if it’s not unhealthy? It’s still not attractive!”

    We all know that that’s what a large percentage of the”ZOMG IT’S UNHEALTHY YOU’LL DIE” cries really come down to. It’s kind of nice to see someone just come out with it, even if he doesn’t seem to realize how absurd it is.

  8. Wow, apparently fat causes some sort of medical process that lead to low self-esteem! That MUST be what’s going on there!

    BWAH! Exactly. “You must get rid of your disgusting fat, you lazy, out-of-control slob, because it’s physiologically causing your weak, pathetic self-esteem issues.”

  9. Jesus H. I went right to the article and read all of the comments before coming back here. I don’t even know what I would DO if someone said something like that to me in person. Fuck that teacher; it is absolutely astounding that individuals who choose to take on so much responsibility for children can be such total asshats.

  10. YOU GUYS HOW ARE YOU EVER GOING TO GET YOUR SANITYWATCHERS SUCCESS CELEBRATION BOOKMARKS

    I AM SO SERIOUS

    THIS MEETING IS OVER

  11. Wow, if I were ever in Sanity Watchers, I just failed.

    There’s one interesting comment (actually 2) that actually gives numbers and figures. His suggestion, however, was that we change our definition of “OK” BMI to 20-30, and reserve our nastiness for people with a BMI over 30. Because, clearly, people with a BMI over 30 aren’t human or anything. *grmph*

    It’s just all the same fat hate bingo, even when it pretends not to be.

    *goes to eat another sandwich, with processed cheese and white bread and OMG mayonnaise*

  12. I love Paul Campos.

    Those comments are just so disturbing. These people just take leave of their brains when it comes to fat I think. That woman who wrote about hating the obesity, but loving the person (she also said that fat people miss more work, need more accomodations, etc) later said that we need to get out of the blame game in this country. Seems like someone needs to think about where she’s placing blame, to me.

    Kate, have you got any fresh babies. I only have baby jerky, but apparently that’s too full of salt to be healthy for me.

  13. I’ve been lurking on this site for a long time now, this is my first post and I have to thank you for all the things I’ve learned thanks to you! I wish I knew about fat acceptance when I was in my early teenage years I could’ve helped a friend of mine then.

    This article scared me a bit at first I must say because my parents and my brother are skinny and I’m myself not skinny but definitively thin. My 77 yo grandmother is the only fat person in my family and she’s a happy healthy person. She never went on a diet despite doctors annoying her about that .
    How should I interpret the study ? It doesn’t mean that we should try and put on weight to be healthier ?

    Wouldn’t be healthy mean be in your set weight range whatever that weight is ?

    I mean if you’re eating normally your body is supposed to be at its optimal weight no ?

    I don’t know but there’s so many confusing stories about what’s healthy , what’s not ect ect that I think it’s wiser to listen to your body .

    I don’t dispute the truth of the study of course but since there’s nothing you can do about your weight it’s pointless .
    Well except maybe we should call the ‘healthy weight ‘range
    underweight and the so called “overweight ” healthy weight since it’s closer to the truth ! Never gonna happen of course but still it would be funny to see people losing their ‘but fat is unhealthy’ card. :D

  14. Mmmm, extra baby.

    I just think its funny how many people believe that the world revolves around them and that they have a right to a world where people who are unattractive to them have to struggle until they are attractive.

    I was watching YOUTUBE the other day and these two teenagers had written a song called fat girls who think they are hot piss me off or fat girls who wear tight clothes piss me off or something like that.

    I just wanted to sit them each down and say, Why? why does it piss you off?

    Why does it piss them off?

  15. Paul Campos scores again, I do feel grateful for him ( and Sandy)!

    As for the comments, I’m finding it increasingly difficult not to pity the haters, they seem so desperate and what’s funny is they don’t seem at aware of how much they are letting it hang out. It really is quite pathetic at times.

  16. Why is he the only one in the paid media (just about) who will say it? If the “health problem” of being “overweight” is really the risk of “obesity,” why is there not an equivalent “health problem” for “normal weight” people in potentially becoming “underweight,” which is just as risky health-wise if not more so, and often requires less of a weight change to attain? If C. lost 20 pounds, he’d be scared to death. If I lost 20 pounds, nobody would notice, other than maybe my parents.

    In an aging population, especially, this is NOT a trivial or petty issue, because a lot of “normal weight” people are going to find themselves becoming “underweight” as they age. And nobody who is being paid to write dares raise the issue but him. Nobody. Hence the brainwashed commentariat. (Dude, anymore I don’t need Sanity Watchers to keep me away from those comments, they are already soaked in Meowser Repellent!)

  17. I also broke my SanityWatchers =/ And what really got me was the complete and total lack of reading comprehension displayed in many of the comments. So many people replied with: “You’re wrong, obesity is so unhealthy!” which… that’s not what the article was about. The article was not about obesity. The article did not discuss obesity. I’m not sure the article even mentioned obesity. It was about overweight. So when people replied with stuff about obesity, I had to wonder, did they even read the article?

  18. No, it mentioned obesity briefly… Campos, in one easy-to-read paragraph, points out all the potential problems with the “obesity is unhealthy” studies, which have never been adequately controlled for. And then he goes on to talk about WHAT HE’S ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

    And yes, he’s very explicit about the fact that obesity is NOT what he’s talking about. (Although when the commenters talk about obesity, I highly doubt they’re picturing, say, you.)

  19. Look, no one will listen, they’re all in the mindset that thin=attractive=healthy.

    I think my favorite part of the article the discussion on the 110lbs woman vs. the 150lbs woman. The idea that one would be at higher risk for health issues 10lbs lighter and the other would have to gain 100lbs to be at the same risk was just GREAT. Because, you know all 150lbs women will gain 100lbs because all they do is eat and sit on the couch anyway.

    Do these people, seriously believe women who weight 146-175lbs are immobile? I weighed in at 175lbs the last time I checked and I’m certainly nowhere NEAR housebound.

    F*&*(in’ IDIOTS!

  20. How should I interpret the study ? It doesn’t mean that we should try and put on weight to be healthier ?

    Wouldn’t be healthy mean be in your set weight range whatever that weight is ?

    Jade, that’s my belief, yes. And I think the thing to remember is that, even if underweight (or extreme obesity) IS a risk factor in certain illnesses, it is just that… a risk factor. Not a guarantee that you will die young and cost society tons of money.

    Which means, if you’re eating a variety of foods and getting moderate exercise, you’re pretty much doing everything you can be expected to do, even if your weight is still in a “risky” category. If you’re underweight because of genetics, force-feeding yourself wouldn’t be healthy, any more than an extremely obese person starving herself would be.

    People walk around with risk factors all the damn time — most notably, genetic predispositions to various diseases. (I could be a size 4, and I’d still be at higher risk of heart disease and diabetes than someone with no family history of those things.) But the myth that most people can make substantial, permanent changes to their weight — up or down — drives this ridiculous hysteria over the relative risks of the different BMI categories.

  21. YOU GUYS HOW ARE YOU EVER GOING TO GET YOUR SANITYWATCHERS SUCCESS CELEBRATION BOOKMARKS

    Hey, there are bookmarks? What about keychains? I would totally refrain from reading comments for a silver-esque keychain.

    Also, what about fat vegetarians who don’t get to chow down on nice, fresh baby? Are there any substitutes? Bofy? Tofinfant?

  22. But Meowser what are the “normal weight” people who’ll find themselves unerweight supposed to do ? try to gain weight ? If you can’t control your weight I don’t see what one can do about it ? That’s why I think the study is interesting but pointless. I read it as “well you’re at a higher risk of health problems because of something you can do nothing about too bad for you! ”

    Well the good thing is that people who diet to be at a “normal weight” can benefit from gaining weight and I agree that they should be encouraged to stop dieting.
    Wow that’s actually a proof that dieting increase your risks of health problems!

  23. Are there any substitutes? Bofy? Tofinfant?

    omg lol @ work

    Especially “bofy,” that one’s really getting me.

  24. Because, you know all 150lbs women will gain 100lbs because all they do is eat and sit on the couch anyway.

    When I was 150 pounds I wore a size 8, and I’m just a shade over five feet tall. Size 8! And yet I’ve heard that number ( or 200 pounds! or 300 pounds!) referred to as the cut-off point for when a woman becomes absolutely, unquestionably horrible to look at and a burden on society.

    Ugh. People like those commenters can kiss all of my ass.

  25. Oh and as for “I’M NOT ATTRACTED TO FAT PEOPLE” comments….first off, no one beyond you and the person you’re screwing give a rats ass…secondly, it’s likely, as we’d discussed here before, that the majority of these folks have no idea what the BMI overweight category looks like. You say overweight and immediately we’re all starring on a TLC show about eating 14,000 calories a day.

  26. But Meowser what are the “normal weight” people who’ll find themselves unerweight supposed to do ? try to gain weight ? If you can’t control your weight I don’t see what one can do about it ?

    I don’t think it would be crazy for the thin to take extra good care of their bones and immune systems as they age. Maybe medical researchers should look into that instead of banging the FATBADZOMG!! drum.

    And now I will stop posting like a crazy person.

  27. first off, no one beyond you and the person you’re screwing give a rats ass

    Yeah, I love that he’s like “if you want to sleep with me you have to be whatever weight.” Okay well I TOTALLY don’t so… next!

    “Tofinfant” is probably cleverer but “bofy” is so absurd. Bofy!

    Or maybe bofu?

  28. Sniper, your last words made me think of this:

    “Oh, you can kiss the fattest part of my ass!”

    I heard it on TV somewhere, but it definitely works for me. I’m the socially unacceptable female over 300 pounds. No doubt my self-esteem has taken a beating over the ignorance of others though.

  29. Wouldn’t be healthy mean be in your set weight range whatever that weight is ?

    I mean if you’re eating normally your body is supposed to be at its optimal weight no ?

    Jade, this is what I would suspect… however, I don’t think there are any studies out there actually investigating this (and it probably would be hard to get enough subjects who never tried to mess with their weight…)

    Even IF certain weights are associated with a higher risk for certain health problems I am pretty sure that not obessing about your weight whatever it may be is very good for your psychological well being (which in turn does of course feed back on your physical health). That alone would be a good reason to eat intuitively if you ask me.

    Oh yeah, and for all the ones who comment on the high school teacher’s response… I loved how she was promoting “tough love”. Yeah, right. As someone who was a fat kid and adolescent I can tell you that I got enough tough love to last for a life time. It just makes me said that now – ten years after I graduated from high school – kids are still going through exactly the same or even worse shit when it comes to weight and body image.

  30. Thanks for your answer Kate. I truly hope one day people will accept that they can’t do anything about their weight. It’s scary to see the consequences that one false belief can have on millions of lives.It makes me wonder about other false things I may buy into without knowing you know ? developping a critical mind is important. I feel sorry for the people who harm themselves in vain just because of a myth. It’s nice that movement like the fat acceptance movement exist and try to make people see the truth.

  31. You guys are waaaaay to fast for me… Kate basically said what I wanted to say. So, sorry for the repetition.

  32. Jebus, people! Stop with the flying fingers already… give a girl a chance to catch up! *grumble* *grumble*

    Jade, this:

    I truly hope one day people will accept that they can’t do anything about their weight. It’s scary to see the consequences that one false belief can have on millions of lives.

    ain’t gonna happen until more people are actually TOLD – with PROOF – that there’s really nothing you can do about your weight. The fat-haters are so prevalent because they actually DO believe that dieting is just a matter of willpower and the only reason we’re still fat is because we’re lazy.

    Hell, *I* really, truly, 100% believed that it was MY fault I was this fat until just over a month ago, when I found Kate, FJ, SM, and the Fatosphere. It was only through reading the several articles and studies and whatnot that Kate and others have linked to that I realized “Hey, they’re not full of shit… this stuff is really true. It really ISN’T MY FAULT.”

    Sadly, it’s going to take a lot before we can get the message more widespread.

  33. Regrettably, the focus of Campos’ article was on the “overweight” and he neglected to point out that the Flegal data actually showed lower risks for most people labeled “obese,” too. Risks ASSOCIATED

  34. with obesity didn’t measurably increase until the highest BMIs and even then weren’t significantly tenable. And, of course, we all know that still doesn’t mean that obesity was the cause for the risks.

  35. Sandy, I totally hear you, but I also think it was a good tactical move on his part to focus on the simplest part — the “overweight” designation is ridiculous — when he only had limited space and a hostile audience. Baby steps.

  36. But Meowser what are the “normal weight” people who’ll find themselves unerweight supposed to do ? try to gain weight ?

    Oh, I don’t think so. If you have euphagic eating patterns and don’t exercise like a gerbil all day long and you’re still very thin, you’re likely to stay that way unless and until Mother Nature decides to flip a switch on you, and thus you’re probably at the right weight for you. Besides, unless restrained eating patterns have something to do with being a very low weight, it’s unlikely you can change it very much.

    All I’m saying is, we keep hearing endless, relentless hype about how “dangerous” it is to be “overweight” because it could lead to “obesity” and thus Instant Booga Booga Death (despite the fact that there are tens of millions of us fatasses who remain stubbornly alive and More and More of Us Everyday — if Fat Kills, shouldn’t the numbers be going down?), but we never hear about the reverse being even the slightest bit risky. (And of course, all health risks associated with weight loss itself are tidily swept under the rug as well.)

    There’s such fetishism of the Normal Weight Zone, so much hype that once you’re there nothing “bad” could ever happen to you, and such glamorization of “underweight” women in this culture (oh yes there is), you can’t get a fact in edgewise. I don’t want thin people to freak out and hate themselves and try to gain weight which they probably can’t keep on anyway. All I want is for people to acknowledge that risk exists for each and every one of us, and that there is no “magic weight” that will keep that at bay.

  37. Yellowhammer, I’ll answer your question. They’re pissed off because, well they’re teenage boys, and I’d be pissed too if I was wracked with hormones with little to release them but my hand and an abundance of internet porn.

    But, also because they’re taught by our media, our society and by internet porn that women are there for their consumption and pleasure. They’re likely NOT to divert from societial norms and are thusly attractive to your average thin blonde with implants (not that there is anything wrong with that). Therefore, when someone, fat girls in this instance, chose to display themselves and their self confidence in a manner that isn’t necessarily about them. Well it just pisses them OFF! It’s not about ME! It should be about me. They shouldn’t do that because it’s not what I want.

    They’ll likely learn as they enter adulthood that it isn’t always about them or what pleases them and begin commenting on blogs about what does please them, so the rest of us know, just in case we cared.

  38. Meowser, I’m having trouble with IE and this site too. It was working so well for a few weeks and now it keeps crashing on the comments for this post and the previous one.

  39. I have never commented here, but I read every day. I love this site!!

    I have to say to Yellowhammer, who looked at the guys on Youtube singing about fat chicks, it is very obvious that these boys (and they are BOYS, barely even 13 probably) are probably so petrified at the obvious sexuality that fat women project that they have to write really bad songs about it. They protest too much!!!

    PS Just wanted to share a quick story I about things you can do in public to make people think. My friend (also large) and I were at a movie and the trailer for Norbitt came up. Well as you can imagine, people were laughing left and right, because fat, sassy, black women are comedy gold! So at the end of the trailer, when it got quiet again in the theater, I yelled out “Ha!!! Fat people are funny! It’s funny cause she’s fat!!!”

    You guys are awesome!

  40. I was going to link to the hufu website, but apparently it’s closed. Woe! It was hilarious.

    Apparently my sister is overweight. Even though to be thinner she’d pretty much have to stop eating. She’s gearing up to start playing three sports this winter. THREE. And yet because she’s a shade over the BMI limit she’s overweight. Which is saying nothing about the fucked-up ideas she has about how fat she is because she hangs out with girls who are either anorexic or genetically teeny. I don’t miss high school at all and I can’t wait till she’s out of there.

  41. For some reason, this article (which I read before you linked to it) and the Fantasy of Being Thin seemed to go together really well for me, I think because of the part where Campos talks about how the apologists say that well, being fat still impaiirs your quality of life and keeps you from moving around and doing things.

    I mean, how many 200+ pound people does this guy Manson actually know? For that matter, how many people who weigh 120 lbs. and are in fragile health does he know?

    It’s such a shame that my having a BMI of 34.5 has stopped me from exercising 6 days a week, taking a bike ride of 33.5 miles, working my way up to swimming a half mile at a time, working a full-time job plus having regular game nights at my house, doing housework and mowing the lawn, and having a fulfilling sex life…

    …oh wait, it HASN’T!

  42. whoa – i have so many thoughts, i don’t know where to begin…

    1. I’ve just started reading this blog in the last few weeks so maybe this has been mentioned, but the book Thinner than Thou although not the best book I’ve ever read, sure predicted what seems to be the new religion of weight loss, and it is crazy how much of the book has started to come to life! SCARY SHIT!

    2. Heidi – I hope to be able to yell that out at some point in my life too! I just about died laughing in my office chair when I read that. Kudos!

    3. Why are confident, happy fat women so fucking threatening to others? I’m happy, I’m fat…get over it!

  43. I think we’ve done a pretty good job of balancing out the comments at TNR.

    I’m tempted to submit another to that idiot who wouldn’t date a fat women along the lines of: “hey, jackass — I wouldn’t want to date an ignoramous like you. Snap — you’ve just been rejected by a FAT woman!”

    But I will refrain from such childishness.

  44. I mean, how many 200+ pound people does this guy Manson actually know? For that matter, how many people who weigh 120 lbs. and are in fragile health does he know?

    Small point of clarification: Manson’s a woman. Willett’s the guy to be asking those questions about.

    Otherwise, amen to everything you said.

  45. Oh, and did anyone happen to see the CDC’s news today?

    Apparently, spread of The Obesity EpidemicTM appears to be coming to an end:

    Obesity Rates in US Leveling Off

    I’m sure diet dishers will be proclaiming victory, others will pop up to warn us not to become “complacent” and absolutely no one will talk about the fact that the “increase” in fat people was bound to stop eventually, because just as you can’t make a naturally fat person thin, it’s virtually impossible to make a naturally thin person fat.

  46. wow, paul campos can have my babies.

    That article was so spot on perfect in every way!

    also, in the article jmars linked:

    “The report also found that about a third of obese adults had not been told by a doctor or health care provider that they were overweight, although women heard such an assessment more often than men.”

    ZOMG THE DOCTORS DIDNT TELL TEH FAT PEOPLE THAT THEYRE FAT! maybe because they didnt go to get TREATED FOR FATNESS you eejits.

    …i want to write eloquently but it just doesnt happen ;_;

  47. The commenters on that article you linked scare the crap out of me. Seriously, I am scared that we fat people are the new smokers. Only this time the evidence against us is faked. Can this be where we’re headed?

  48. ..that we fat people are the new smokers. Only this time the evidence against us is faked.

    The thing against the smokers always bugged me, too. Because we know it’s unhealthy, yeah, but smokers are people. Often, they’re poor people. When I was a waitress, they were also the best tippers. *g* I don’t think that was ever studied, but it sure seemed like a rule of thumb in my area: work the smoking section!

    I don’t know: it just seems ridiculous to think that just because you don’t have a particular weakness, you can castigate and hate on all people with that weakness. Everybody’s got weaknesses. It just seems like there are some that think their weaknesses don’t count.

  49. The thing against the smokers always bugged me, too. Because we know it’s unhealthy, yeah, but smokers are people.

    Absolutely. I’m a smoker myself, and while I try to be really conscientious about not subjecting too many other people to it, I also get furious when people treat me like a goddamned leper because of it. Guess what, guys — shame doesn’t help with that, either.

    And at least with smoking, there are legitimate health risks for people to bitch about.

  50. ok, the eating babies and donuts and baby flavored donuts was just too funny. Thank GOD for you guys. With gems like these, I can read those asinine comments on the Campos article and still laugh.
    :)

  51. I used to be one of those obnoxious anti-smoking people, until I got fat and the anti-obesity campaign started ramping up. (It seems like those things started happening at the same time, or maybe I only started noticing it once I got fat). Then I realised that what was being done to me as a fat person is exactly the same thing that’s being done to smokers, and if I don’t deserve it, neither do they. Now I realise how ridiculous I used to be – it’s not like smokers haven’t heard of the health risk associated with smoking. It’s not like they don’t hear it every day. If they choose to smoke anyway, that’s really, really, not any of my business.

  52. it’s not like smokers haven’t heard of the health risk associated with smoking.

    THERE ARE HEALTH RISKS?!? :)

    Sometimes, when I’m out of fried butter, fried tobacco will do in a pinch.

  53. Commenter: if you want to date me, then you must fall within the “healthy weight” range.

    So, let me get this straight.
    1. I’m fat.
    2. Therefore, I can’t date this guy.

    This seems to be evidence in favor of obesity = increased quality of life.

  54. Hee, Ellie, I’m with you. It’s been said before in this thread, but I love how, “I wouldn’t date a fat chick!” is supposed to make us feel bad about our fat, when all it ever does is make us thrilled we never have to date that guy.

  55. I don’t know if they’re still around, but when I was in my early 20′s, I kept seeing these “No Fat Chicks” window stickers everywhere – ironically enough, almost always on a truck. Every time I saw one, the thought that went through my head was “even if I WAS thin, I wouldn’t want to date a guy who would put that on his truck!”

    That’s what that one guy reminds me of. We may be fat, but he’s a shallow, vain asshole. I’d rather be fat than be an asshole any day of the week.

  56. I don’t know if they’re still around, but when I was in my early 20’s, I kept seeing these “No Fat Chicks” window stickers everywhere – ironically enough, almost always on a truck.

    This reminds me, over Thanksgiving I drove up to my cousins house (in lovely suburbia where the world is perfect ) and written in spray paint below the word “Stop” on the stop sign were the words “fat chicks.” Stop fat chicks. All I could think was, stop fat chicks from what? From living? From going through this intersection? What exactly is it that you, oh insecure, sheltered, teenager with too much time on his hands, want to stop fat chicks from doing?

  57. Ellie, you hit it exactly.
    I want a sticker to put on my car that says “shallow assholes” with a big circle around it and a line through it. But somehow, if you are opposing some form of intolerance, you are supposed to be hypertolerant, which is ridiculous.
    No fat chicks is wrong on so many levels.
    I mean, were there fat chicks lining up to date these guys, they had to beat them away with sticks, so they had to adopt this policy?

    I have fantasies where I have a big baseball bat and when I see a sign like that on a truck window, I smash it, and if confronted (arrested?) I say I was removing the sticker.

    Wouldn’t an I (heart) skinny chicks window sticker be a much more positive message?

  58. I wish we used the energy we spend on limiting and stigmatizing children’s food choices and spent it on better critical thinking and reading comprehension education.

    Oooohhh, look. A pipedream. Shiny!

  59. I get to actually contribute to critical thinking education these days at least, so it’s better than before, when I used to just sit around getting angry that nobody ever learned critical thinking. (Not that I can require anyone to actually USE the materials I’m producing, but it’s a start.)

  60. littlem, on November 29th, 2007 at 4:49 am Said:
    I wish we used the energy we spend on limiting and stigmatizing children’s food choices and spent it on better critical thinking and reading comprehension education.

    Oooohhh, look. A pipedream. Shiny!

    LOL! at work, with bronchitis, not a good combo.

    I just found this whole community due to the WaPo article. I wish I’d known about you all Long, Long, Long ago, before I started trying to diet my metabolism into submission instead of accepting that my health issues aren’t tied to my weight so much as my struggle to LOSE weight! (Go figure!)

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