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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-23155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spacedcowgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catrina, ugh, yes. That seems to be how those things always go.

Since I guess I am still bitter today, I will add that I hate it when I have to go over to my mother-in-law&#039;s for a bridal shower or her church&#039;s stupid Mother&#039;s Day mother-daughter banquet (don&#039;t get me wrong, I am OK with spending time with her and this is a nice opportunity to celebrate Mother&#039;s Day, it is just never actually fun), and while we are doing that my husband and his dad do something they actually enjoy like hang around at home watching football and eating pizza, or play a round of golf. I don&#039;t begrudge them the time together but I hate the idea that nibbling dainty food and doing &quot;lady&quot; things is supposed to be just as much fun for me as their activity is for them. Not that men don&#039;t get stereotypical gender-based 
&quot;forced fun&quot; too, but at least there is usually hearty food at theirs. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catrina, ugh, yes. That seems to be how those things always go.</p>
<p>Since I guess I am still bitter today, I will add that I hate it when I have to go over to my mother-in-law&#8217;s for a bridal shower or her church&#8217;s stupid Mother&#8217;s Day mother-daughter banquet (don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am OK with spending time with her and this is a nice opportunity to celebrate Mother&#8217;s Day, it is just never actually fun), and while we are doing that my husband and his dad do something they actually enjoy like hang around at home watching football and eating pizza, or play a round of golf. I don&#8217;t begrudge them the time together but I hate the idea that nibbling dainty food and doing &#8220;lady&#8221; things is supposed to be just as much fun for me as their activity is for them. Not that men don&#8217;t get stereotypical gender-based<br />
&#8220;forced fun&#8221; too, but at least there is usually hearty food at theirs. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Catrina</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-23152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catrina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[About the &quot;fake lady lunches&quot; and mother-daughter banquets, I remember being so excited for my elementary school&#039;s mother-daughter function. My mom is awesome, and I thought it&#039;d be really fun. Instead, we had to sit quietly at big round tables in the gym, eating fruit salad  and teeny cucumber sandwiches and watching random people walk down a &quot;runway&quot; in the middle of the room. Suffice it to say I was extremely disappointed. Not fun at all.

Then my mom and I volunteered at the father-son event.

Where they got to eat hot dogs and play games outside. Boo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the &#8220;fake lady lunches&#8221; and mother-daughter banquets, I remember being so excited for my elementary school&#8217;s mother-daughter function. My mom is awesome, and I thought it&#8217;d be really fun. Instead, we had to sit quietly at big round tables in the gym, eating fruit salad  and teeny cucumber sandwiches and watching random people walk down a &#8220;runway&#8221; in the middle of the room. Suffice it to say I was extremely disappointed. Not fun at all.</p>
<p>Then my mom and I volunteered at the father-son event.</p>
<p>Where they got to eat hot dogs and play games outside. Boo.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-23079</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Nomie, if you ever need an exta person to enjoy diner food with,  let me know. I&#039;m a big fan of mashed potatoes. and i don&#039;t know anyone around here yet... i&#039;m from pittsburgh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Nomie, if you ever need an exta person to enjoy diner food with,  let me know. I&#8217;m a big fan of mashed potatoes. and i don&#8217;t know anyone around here yet&#8230; i&#8217;m from pittsburgh</p>
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		<title>By: littlem</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-22926</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[littlem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;I did get told at Thanksgiving one year, “You’re as big as a horse. (pause) Do you want another piece of pie?” &lt;/i&gt;

Oh, I guess we are related.  I&#039;ve been waiting years for someone&#039;s head (other than mine) to explode from the cognitive dissonance.

&lt;i&gt;&quot;For some reason in my house, exercise (or lack of it) was considered the reason for my fatness, not the food I ate.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Thank you so much for sorting that out. For years I could not parse the mystery.

(&#039;Course, I spent years running track and more in modern dance, after mom got over her paralyzing fears that I would be run over on the way to the mailbox by an out-of-control vehicle and therefore should not go out to play with the the other kids, but ... whatevs.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I did get told at Thanksgiving one year, “You’re as big as a horse. (pause) Do you want another piece of pie?” </i></p>
<p>Oh, I guess we are related.  I&#8217;ve been waiting years for someone&#8217;s head (other than mine) to explode from the cognitive dissonance.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;For some reason in my house, exercise (or lack of it) was considered the reason for my fatness, not the food I ate.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Thank you so much for sorting that out. For years I could not parse the mystery.</p>
<p>(&#8216;Course, I spent years running track and more in modern dance, after mom got over her paralyzing fears that I would be run over on the way to the mailbox by an out-of-control vehicle and therefore should not go out to play with the the other kids, but &#8230; whatevs.)</p>
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		<title>By: Emerald</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emerald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“just a quick thought, the original definition of gluttony also included eating too little when you had enough.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

apricotmuffins - ever read &lt;i&gt;The Screwtape Letters&lt;/i&gt; by C. S. Lewis?  There&#039;s this passage where the older devil Wormwood, advising his nephew Screwtape on tempting his human &#039;client&#039;, talks about how the client&#039;s mother has a habit of sending food back in restaurants, complaining that it&#039;s much too much for her and can she have a really really tiny portion, properly done...putting the waitress through a whole load of inconvenience on her behalf.  That, says Uncle Wormwood, is simply another form of gluttony, all the more delightful because the sinner doesn&#039;t see it as such.  It&#039;s the only place I&#039;ve come across that viewpoint.  (Then again, Lewis liked his food and probably wouldn&#039;t have been keen on self-deprivation as a virtue  - and if it&#039;s not changed since I last went there a few years ago, his favorite pub, the Eagle and Child in Oxford, &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; an excellent place to have lunch.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“just a quick thought, the original definition of gluttony also included eating too little when you had enough.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>apricotmuffins &#8211; ever read <i>The Screwtape Letters</i> by C. S. Lewis?  There&#8217;s this passage where the older devil Wormwood, advising his nephew Screwtape on tempting his human &#8216;client&#8217;, talks about how the client&#8217;s mother has a habit of sending food back in restaurants, complaining that it&#8217;s much too much for her and can she have a really really tiny portion, properly done&#8230;putting the waitress through a whole load of inconvenience on her behalf.  That, says Uncle Wormwood, is simply another form of gluttony, all the more delightful because the sinner doesn&#8217;t see it as such.  It&#8217;s the only place I&#8217;ve come across that viewpoint.  (Then again, Lewis liked his food and probably wouldn&#8217;t have been keen on self-deprivation as a virtue  &#8211; and if it&#8217;s not changed since I last went there a few years ago, his favorite pub, the Eagle and Child in Oxford, <i>is</i> an excellent place to have lunch.)</p>
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		<title>By: penguinlady</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-22860</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[penguinlady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my family, food = love.  My grandmother survived the Great Depression, so she always fed everyone in response to that.  If you weren&#039;t stuffed to bursting, you had room for more.  The first thing that was asked when you walked in the door was, &quot;Can I fix you anything?&quot;  (On a sad note, when my mother passed away this summer, I felt bereft when I walked through the door and wasn&#039;t greeted with cookies or cheese or cake.)

Now, there was a double standard.  I did get told at Thanksgiving one year, &quot;You&#039;re as big as a horse.  (pause) Do you want another piece of pie?&quot;  For some reason in my house, exercise (or lack of it) was considered the reason for my fatness, not the food I ate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my family, food = love.  My grandmother survived the Great Depression, so she always fed everyone in response to that.  If you weren&#8217;t stuffed to bursting, you had room for more.  The first thing that was asked when you walked in the door was, &#8220;Can I fix you anything?&#8221;  (On a sad note, when my mother passed away this summer, I felt bereft when I walked through the door and wasn&#8217;t greeted with cookies or cheese or cake.)</p>
<p>Now, there was a double standard.  I did get told at Thanksgiving one year, &#8220;You&#8217;re as big as a horse.  (pause) Do you want another piece of pie?&#8221;  For some reason in my house, exercise (or lack of it) was considered the reason for my fatness, not the food I ate.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-22837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nomie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Megan, that&#039;s really cool! And yeah, the Skylark was expensive, but I thought it was worth it - the food was great, as was the service and atmosphere. Plus it&#039;s hard to find a diner with a full bar. Hee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan, that&#8217;s really cool! And yeah, the Skylark was expensive, but I thought it was worth it &#8211; the food was great, as was the service and atmosphere. Plus it&#8217;s hard to find a diner with a full bar. Hee.</p>
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		<title>By: spacedcowgirl</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-22833</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spacedcowgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, wrt2&#039;s adorable child and Nomie&#039;s happy group of food-savoring friends have made my day. Yay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, wrt2&#8242;s adorable child and Nomie&#8217;s happy group of food-savoring friends have made my day. Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-22832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nornie, I must be right beside you (Fords, NJ, immediately off Rte. 1)! The Skylark seemed a bit spendy for a diner to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nornie, I must be right beside you (Fords, NJ, immediately off Rte. 1)! The Skylark seemed a bit spendy for a diner to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomie</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/11/14/and-she-wrote-some-pretty-good-novels-too/#comment-22784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nomie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Criseyde, it&#039;s because we&#039;re all caffeine junkies. Or addicted to aspartame. XD 

I&#039;ve definitely noticed a difference in how I enjoy meals depending on the group I&#039;m with. In college, I mostly hung out with girls who were thinner than I was and almost universally trying to lose weight. I always felt guilty and monstrously fat. 

Now, though, I spend most of my food outings with three girls of sizes from &quot;chubby&quot; to &quot;fat&quot;. And they all love food. We are currently on a mission to try all the diners in our area, and when I order a bacon cheeseburger they only ask me if it was cooked properly. Going out with people who enjoy food, who enjoy eating and socializing, is amazing. 

(Side note: the Skylark Diner in Edison, NJ has a divine chocolate milkshake.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Criseyde, it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re all caffeine junkies. Or addicted to aspartame. XD </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve definitely noticed a difference in how I enjoy meals depending on the group I&#8217;m with. In college, I mostly hung out with girls who were thinner than I was and almost universally trying to lose weight. I always felt guilty and monstrously fat. </p>
<p>Now, though, I spend most of my food outings with three girls of sizes from &#8220;chubby&#8221; to &#8220;fat&#8221;. And they all love food. We are currently on a mission to try all the diners in our area, and when I order a bacon cheeseburger they only ask me if it was cooked properly. Going out with people who enjoy food, who enjoy eating and socializing, is amazing. </p>
<p>(Side note: the Skylark Diner in Edison, NJ has a divine chocolate milkshake.)</p>
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