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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-18577</link>
		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m VERY late to this party, but Kate, this post is wonderful. And hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m VERY late to this party, but Kate, this post is wonderful. And hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-18325</link>
		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shade,  I don&#039;t have a pituitary tumor, but I may have hypopituitarism - I&#039;m low in LH, FSH, and periodically TSH.  My prolactin levels seem fine, though.

I still don&#039;t have a definitive diagnosis, btw; the above is the current best hypothesis.  I&#039;m on my fifteenth year without The Diagnosis(TM), though in the past couple years I have managed to get treated for some of the secondary crap the pituitary is causing (finally!).

Today, my entire body hurts and I am walking with a cane.  (Compare my BMI project photo.  Life in my body is never boring, at least. :P )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shade,  I don&#8217;t have a pituitary tumor, but I may have hypopituitarism &#8211; I&#8217;m low in LH, FSH, and periodically TSH.  My prolactin levels seem fine, though.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t have a definitive diagnosis, btw; the above is the current best hypothesis.  I&#8217;m on my fifteenth year without The Diagnosis(TM), though in the past couple years I have managed to get treated for some of the secondary crap the pituitary is causing (finally!).</p>
<p>Today, my entire body hurts and I am walking with a cane.  (Compare my BMI project photo.  Life in my body is never boring, at least. :P )</p>
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		<title>By: None Given</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-18226</link>
		<dc:creator>None Given</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metformin also lowers triglycerides.  Everything it can help other than diabetes is an off-label use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metformin also lowers triglycerides.  Everything it can help other than diabetes is an off-label use.</p>
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		<title>By: Shade</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-18105</link>
		<dc:creator>Shade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I know I&#039;m late to the party, and so probably no one will read this, but...just how many people here have pituitary tumors? Specifically prolactinomas? &#039;Cause that last time I heard this many people talk about Dostinex and prolactin it was on the Pituitary Network boards.

Just how many of us are there? (BTW, from what I&#039;ve read, I&#039;ve been lucky; it only took me eight years to be properly diagnosed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I know I&#8217;m late to the party, and so probably no one will read this, but&#8230;just how many people here have pituitary tumors? Specifically prolactinomas? &#8216;Cause that last time I heard this many people talk about Dostinex and prolactin it was on the Pituitary Network boards.</p>
<p>Just how many of us are there? (BTW, from what I&#8217;ve read, I&#8217;ve been lucky; it only took me eight years to be properly diagnosed.)</p>
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		<title>By: Emerald</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-17980</link>
		<dc:creator>Emerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coyote - ouch!  The cycling, I mean.  I adore Seattle (want to go live there someday, actually) but oh, those hills!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coyote &#8211; ouch!  The cycling, I mean.  I adore Seattle (want to go live there someday, actually) but oh, those hills!!!</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-17975</link>
		<dc:creator>fillyjonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalesy, it&#039;s interesting that you leapt from &quot;parents refusing to let kids out of their sight&quot; to &quot;kids slogging around on the internet.&quot;  Are the parents overprotective, or are the kids just OMG lazy?  If it&#039;s the first one, what&#039;s an anti-Google ad going to do?  How will crusading against Google make parents more willing to let kids go out and play, or security people less likely to chase off skateboarders?

I&#039;m not asking because I disagree with you -- I do think kids don&#039;t get to run around and play enough, though unlike anti-obesity crusaders, I actually think that active healthy children having fun is a good in and of itself, no matter what size said children are.  I&#039;m asking because I see you getting really close to thinking outside of the popular &quot;fat comes from overeating and being a slug&quot; misconception, and then getting dragged right back in.  It&#039;s worth noticing when that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalesy, it&#8217;s interesting that you leapt from &#8220;parents refusing to let kids out of their sight&#8221; to &#8220;kids slogging around on the internet.&#8221;  Are the parents overprotective, or are the kids just OMG lazy?  If it&#8217;s the first one, what&#8217;s an anti-Google ad going to do?  How will crusading against Google make parents more willing to let kids go out and play, or security people less likely to chase off skateboarders?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking because I disagree with you &#8212; I do think kids don&#8217;t get to run around and play enough, though unlike anti-obesity crusaders, I actually think that active healthy children having fun is a good in and of itself, no matter what size said children are.  I&#8217;m asking because I see you getting really close to thinking outside of the popular &#8220;fat comes from overeating and being a slug&#8221; misconception, and then getting dragged right back in.  It&#8217;s worth noticing when that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalesy</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-17971</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just found this site (a link over from adage.com) and I found it insightful and witty (for the most part).

To an interesting point raised by one of the &quot;trolls&quot; about an increase in childhood obesity.  Although i def. agree w/ the reply about the healthcare system, there is a lot to be said for the current social and environmental climate affecting kids and the obesity rate.

When I was a kid, we ran around outdoors, played on skateboards, and rode our bikes everywhere.  Now, parents are afraid to let kids out of their sight in neighborhoods where they don&#039;t know who lurks around the corner.  If you get caught riding a skateboard at the local minimall, the RentACops tell you to get lost.  And God forbid if anyone tries to ride a bike on an actual street anymore - people are busy! they have places to go! get off the road!

Childhood obesity is just as likely caused by kids&#039; slogging around on the Internet all day or playing video games.  Maybe they can have an &quot;Anti The Google&quot; commercial......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this site (a link over from adage.com) and I found it insightful and witty (for the most part).</p>
<p>To an interesting point raised by one of the &#8220;trolls&#8221; about an increase in childhood obesity.  Although i def. agree w/ the reply about the healthcare system, there is a lot to be said for the current social and environmental climate affecting kids and the obesity rate.</p>
<p>When I was a kid, we ran around outdoors, played on skateboards, and rode our bikes everywhere.  Now, parents are afraid to let kids out of their sight in neighborhoods where they don&#8217;t know who lurks around the corner.  If you get caught riding a skateboard at the local minimall, the RentACops tell you to get lost.  And God forbid if anyone tries to ride a bike on an actual street anymore &#8211; people are busy! they have places to go! get off the road!</p>
<p>Childhood obesity is just as likely caused by kids&#8217; slogging around on the Internet all day or playing video games.  Maybe they can have an &#8220;Anti The Google&#8221; commercial&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sniper</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-17952</link>
		<dc:creator>Sniper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I’ve been kind of ignoring it for a couple of years, because when I went to an endocrinologist to talk about it, she was all, “DO YOU WANT BABIES? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT BABIES, HERE COME SOME MEDS! Otherwise, yanno, fuck you very much.”&lt;/i&gt;

It sounds like you need to shop around for a better endocrinologist, if that&#039;s at all possible. The first few  I went to were all, &quot;Don&#039;t want kids? Then we won&#039;t bother treating the symptoms that make you feel like crap&quot;.  My current doctor is very much into getting patients to feel better, even if there&#039;s no goal (kids, weight loss...) in sight. Took me years to find her, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve been kind of ignoring it for a couple of years, because when I went to an endocrinologist to talk about it, she was all, “DO YOU WANT BABIES? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT BABIES, HERE COME SOME MEDS! Otherwise, yanno, fuck you very much.”</i></p>
<p>It sounds like you need to shop around for a better endocrinologist, if that&#8217;s at all possible. The first few  I went to were all, &#8220;Don&#8217;t want kids? Then we won&#8217;t bother treating the symptoms that make you feel like crap&#8221;.  My current doctor is very much into getting patients to feel better, even if there&#8217;s no goal (kids, weight loss&#8230;) in sight. Took me years to find her, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Lise</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-17940</link>
		<dc:creator>Lise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coyote, I actually have a pituitary adenoma as well, which affects my prolactin levels (originally diagnosed because my periods were wacky). To be honest? I&#039;ve been kind of ignoring it for a couple of years, because when I went to an endocrinologist to talk about it, she was all, &quot;DO YOU WANT BABIES? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT BABIES, HERE COME SOME MEDS! Otherwise, yanno, fuck you very much.&quot;

Now I have to wonder if that has something to do with my weight gain over the same period of time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coyote, I actually have a pituitary adenoma as well, which affects my prolactin levels (originally diagnosed because my periods were wacky). To be honest? I&#8217;ve been kind of ignoring it for a couple of years, because when I went to an endocrinologist to talk about it, she was all, &#8220;DO YOU WANT BABIES? BECAUSE IF YOU WANT BABIES, HERE COME SOME MEDS! Otherwise, yanno, fuck you very much.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I have to wonder if that has something to do with my weight gain over the same period of time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fillyjonk</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/23/open-for-discussion-namby-pamby-anti-obesity-ads/#comment-17932</link>
		<dc:creator>fillyjonk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as you might already know, coyote, Metformin isn&#039;t actually a PCOS med -- originally it was a diabetes med, but it&#039;s also used to treat insulin resistance.  So I actually think you&#039;re being too easy on your doctors.  I suspect the thought process went FAT WOMAN OMG SHE&#039;S GOING TO GET DIABETES TREAT FIRST CHECK LATER.  If they never tested your blood sugar, you shouldn&#039;t have been on Metformin, no matter WHAT they thought you had... but if they put you on it as a &quot;preventative,&quot; I&#039;m guessing it was because they were convinced from looking at you that you must be prediabetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as you might already know, coyote, Metformin isn&#8217;t actually a PCOS med &#8212; originally it was a diabetes med, but it&#8217;s also used to treat insulin resistance.  So I actually think you&#8217;re being too easy on your doctors.  I suspect the thought process went FAT WOMAN OMG SHE&#8217;S GOING TO GET DIABETES TREAT FIRST CHECK LATER.  If they never tested your blood sugar, you shouldn&#8217;t have been on Metformin, no matter WHAT they thought you had&#8230; but if they put you on it as a &#8220;preventative,&#8221; I&#8217;m guessing it was because they were convinced from looking at you that you must be prediabetic.</p>
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