Pardon the Interruption

I don’t mean to distract anyone from ripping Penelope Trunk a new one, but I just had to share a comment from our newest troll, “Wazza.”

Regarding my post about the 245-lb. woman who died because paramedics somehow couldn’t figure out how to move her over the course of two hours – and meanwhile stood around cracking jokes while she was dying and her husband who had called them to save her watched helplessly — Wazza has this to say:

hell IF THEYD COVERD HER IN BARBECUE SAUCE IM SURE ON OF YOU LARGE MOTHERS COULD HAVE EATEN THE POOR WOMEN IN TWO HOURS

Just in case any of you needed a reminder about how much basic human dignity fat people deserve.

Or a reminder about how trolls can never spell.

43 thoughts on “Pardon the Interruption

  1. It made me laugh a lot. “Large mothers” is awesome. He could spell “barbecue” but not “one.” He has apparent sympathy for the woman, presumably because she died, but doesn’t seem to be making the connection that she died because of the same bigotry being espoused. Also, I love the idea of dealing with huge miscarriages of responsibility by covering them in barbecue sauce and eating them.

    This is top-quality troll, srsly.

  2. I must admit I cracked up, too. It was just that dumb. But after reading some other comments elsewhere today (I cheated on Sanity Watchers), like, say, the Bitch, PhD thread and the thread on the Lancashire FD article that turned into a hilarious discussion of how to BURN FAT PEOPLE, I thought it would be good to devote this space to ridiculing/gawking at the truly, staggeringly, unapologetically hateful bullshit that’s out there.

  3. Why do these people waste their time reading and commenting on this sight if they aren’t really productively interested? It is ridiculous. It is one thing to disagree intelligently with the things posted here, based on what a person believes to be medically sound knowledge, or to start an educated debate about a topic, and something else entirely to be rude and reveal your own lack of care.

  4. I’m going to one up you on that Kate, I’m going to cover the entire Bush administration in bbq sauce (sweet baby ray’s of course) and eat it. Good thing I’m hungry!!

    Personally I find that crack pot politicians taste best when I use a good spice rub and put them on the grill for a while, Don’t you?

  5. Yeah, I read the comments on Bitch Ph.D. too, and some of them were real jaw-droppers, but at least Dr. Bitch called them out. I always liked her and was glad to see her refusing to let bad faith arguments stand.

    Back on the Sanity Watchers horse though. If I don’t follow the maintenance plan I will gain back all my crazy.

  6. If I don’t follow the maintenance plan I will gain back all my crazy.

    I probably shouldn’t tell you that most people gain back all the crazy and more after 5 years, huh?

  7. You might want to be careful about bbqing politicians, they tend to be rotten underneath the shiny surface and cause numerous stomach aches, headaches and wars.

  8. I probably shouldn’t tell you that most people gain back all the crazy and more after 5 years, huh?

    I WILL BEAT THE ODDS.

    And then cover them with BBQ sauce and eat them. *nods*

  9. Spins, if you sneak some veggies in there with the pols, the stomachaches, headaches, and wars won’t be so bad.

  10. I missed your post on that story the first time around. Seems to me that those two weakling paramedics need a lot more than barbeque sauce if they can’t muster the strength to move someone only 245 lbs. Most professional football players weigh more than that and I don’t see anyone having trouble getting them off the field when they’re injured…

  11. koolbleu, I have often wondered the same thing. I mean, I have way more free time than any one individual should and a deep and abiding disgust for many things, yet I never seek out places online just to anonymously be a dick. What is it like to live such a shallow internal life as to get off by being a wanker and waving your dick (proverbial or otherwise) around online?

    I always picture this really sad dude wagging his willy at a group of people who really don’t give a shit. We’ve seen it. We’re not impressed by it, kind of bored, actually, and you’re only hurting yourself. Plus, aren’t you cold with it hanging out there like that?

    Seriously – and I’m not being disingenuous – what is the point? It’s trying. I’m vexed.

  12. “I always picture this really sad dude wagging his willy at a group of people who really don’t give a shit. We’ve seen it. We’re not impressed by it, kind of bored, actually, and you’re only hurting yourself. Plus, aren’t you cold with it hanging out there like that?”

    Ok, this is one of the best mental pictures ever. I almost spit out my kool-aid whilst reading it. :-D

  13. I emailed a what I felt was a perfect image to Kate – for my thoughts on this guy. I just don’t know how to embed an image or if this is even possible here at the lovely shapely pose.

  14. Yeah, that willy-waggling image is just about perfect. I predict it’s going to keep me coolheaded through an indeterminate number of troll attacks, too.

    I’m sure there have been some fascinating studies done on the psychology of trolling, but you’d think I’d know about them and I don’t. The obvious person would be Sherry Turkle but I don’t know what she’s done since Life on the Screen. This discussion is the major thing that comes up in a google search, and it’s pretty interesting… even more so because the thread originator is referred to at one point as “Legba,” the name of one of the victims of the famous LambdaMOO rape — probably no connection, though.

    Anyway, I imagine it’s a cocktail of insecurity, alienation, and power-hungriness, like any other dickwaving, though some trolls are clearly sociopaths and more are sociopath wannabes. It’s similar to offline bullying, I imagine… trying to gain a sense of control over your life by threatening or goading others.

  15. Legba is a voodoo loa, the guardian and trickster of the crossroads and entrances, originating with the Fon people of Dahomey (yeah, it’s all those Falconhurst books I read back in the day).
    Trolls are just really pathetic in my book, and I prefer to laugh at them most of the time. I mean really, I haven’t seen a troll yet that can spell or use proper grammar (not that I do it all the time either, but I usually do it on purpose, not because I don’t know any better).

  16. Vesta, yeah, I know, but legba was also the name of a character in an early and influential MUD. Now, there could easily be — and almost certainly are — a number of people going by that name now, but people who got attached to their online monikers as early as Lambda’s legba would have are likely to keep them. And it doesn’t seem far-fetched to me that the same person would be on Lambda and Barbelith.

    That said, it’s a big internet, and people like naming themselves after gods and mythologies.

    I’ve certainly seen trolls who can spell and use proper grammar. There are a couple of levels of troll intelligence; they’re not all of the “u suk” variety. Generally you figure that if someone were really smart, they’d have better things to do, but it doesn’t always work that way; you can be pretty smart and an aspiring sociopath at the same time.

  17. I know this probably isn’t a comment that someone should get angry over, but sometimes it absolutely astonishing to me how hateful people really are when they’re behind closed doors.

    How anyone could sit back and allow another person to die is beyond me. How anyone could sit behind a computer and find their death , which is this case was preventable, laughable and/or justified is just sickening.

    I also tend to wonder what percentage of trolls happen to be male and female? It’s not that any one gender can be more hateful than the other. But one gender has the idea ingrained from early childhood that the other gender exists strictly for their consumption. If that is the case, then this gender is not a human being, they’re strictly a piece of meat. If this meat doesn’t appeal to said consumer, then its very being is worthless in the consumers eye. Sometimes I’d wish that this gender would assess how damaging this is to both them and the opposite. Generally speaking your sister, your mother, your aunt, your niece, your grandmother have all been pieces of meat and have received the same ridicule you present to a complete stranger over the internet, strictly because they don’t please the consumer.

    Perhaps this doesn’t matter, being inhuman allows you to dehumanize another.

  18. Dude, Nobody in Particular, that kind of behavior is not even rare, if anything I read about bridal stores is even remotely true.

    I am actually going to do a post on staying sane as a fat bride, but probably not until after Thanksgiving. And I’m not honestly sure whether it will be particularly useful, since I have carefully not placed myself in any situations where I will get any kind of shit. :) I suppose that for journalistic integrity I should go to a boutique…

  19. Kate – I want to throw in that I was a fat bride, and RK Bridal in NYC (they also have an online business) was great to me. Sure, I couldn’t fit in some of the samples, but no one said a word or made me feel bad or unwelcome. They just clipped the open back to my bra so I could see how the dresses looked. They had a plus-sized section – it was small, but it was the only bridal place I went that had one. And most of the dress lines I tried on, even though the sample was probably a size 6 or 8, could be ordered in nearly any size. (Bridal dress sizes are weird, not like normal dress sizes, but the numbers definitely went into the plus sizes.)

  20. Oh hm, I was thinking of going to RK, but decided against it because I’d heard mixed reviews and I thought it’d be crazypants. Maybe I’ll go, except I don’t want to spend my whole Thanksgiving doing Wedding Shopping, eew.

    Hm, maybe we need the Heteronormative Wedding Post earlier than I’d planned it.

  21. My daughter-in-law got her dress at David’s (had to have it altered 3 times because she kept losing weight even though she wasn’t trying, she has MS and gets so ill she can’t eat). She went from an 18 to a 14 (and on her wedding day, the dress was too big because she’d lost more weight in the week between the last alteration and the wedding). But the dress was gorgeous and so was she. So David’s is a good place to go, IMHO.

  22. That’s what I don’t get about a bridal salon refusing to sell to anyone. The dresses in the store are samples and when a dress is ordered, they should be ordering a size that matches your measurements as close as possible.

    I guess I was under the assumption they’re making these dresses based on your measurements so very little alteration has to be done by the salon. I know this is different for a store like David’s, but higher end salons should definitely be measuring and ordering.

  23. fillyjonk – RK can definitely be a madhouse, but the selection is great, as are the prices. (The dress I bought sold for $600 in the boutique where I first saw it; RK had it for $380.) And despite not having appointment times, they have a really well-running system of seeing people. And the saleswomen rock. The woman assigned to me, her name was Emily, and I just loved her. I was wearing a dress, wavering back and forth, saying stuff like, “I don’t know, if the neckline were different, and it didn’t have this thing here on the side…” and she just said, “You don’t like it. It’s never going to be the dress. Take it off.” Totally my kind of gal. I recommend going. Go on a weekday (it’s so quiet then!) if you can, or go early on a Saturday morning.

    Sorry to get a bit off topic. :)

  24. I was wearing a dress, wavering back and forth, saying stuff like, “I don’t know, if the neckline were different, and it didn’t have this thing here on the side…” and she just said, “You don’t like it. It’s never going to be the dress. Take it off.”

    I LOVE HER FOR THAT.

    It has been so hard for me to train myself to do that with normal clothes — as I think it is for many fat women. It’s so hard to find things that fit, we tend to think, “Well, if it fits, I can learn to learn to like it.” But man, it is so worth it to restrict yourself to clothes you think are FABULOUS on you, instead of just clothes you think are acceptable, even if it means your wardrobe gets smaller. ‘Cause what do you know, that means you look FABULOUS instead of meh all the time, and that has a big effect on the ol’ self-esteem.

    I’d imagine that’s doubly true of wedding dresses.

  25. Has anyone worked out the spelling mistake to IQ ratio of trolls yet? Something like dock 20 points from the average IQ for each spelling mistake and grammatical error. Typing in all caps calls for a point docking as well.

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