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		<title>By: Fat Phobia and Thin Privilege &#171; Shut Up, Sit Down</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-109275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fat Phobia and Thin Privilege &#171; Shut Up, Sit Down]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] importantly, stop shaming fat people. Seriously, if shaming us made us thin, there wouldn&#8217;t be a single fat person left in the world. That means not offering fat people advice on &#8216;how to lose weight&#8217;, especially [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] importantly, stop shaming fat people. Seriously, if shaming us made us thin, there wouldn&#8217;t be a single fat person left in the world. That means not offering fat people advice on &#8216;how to lose weight&#8217;, especially [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shiyiya</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-106498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shiyiya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never got any of that myself, thank god, though I think in recent years my mother has developed and eating disorder. She goes on Weight Watchers for a while (my dad has commented that it&#039;s dieting for people with OCD, with all of that point counting), then stops and gains some weight back, probably because she basically eats nothing but ready meals. And junk. She has NO self-control around it, if it&#039;s in the house it&#039;ll disappear. (Which may be rubbing off on me, eek.) Food is about the only aspect of everyone else&#039;s lives that she DOESN&#039;T try to control.

But I remember in middle school one of my close friends, who was MAYBE a trifle plumper - probably just more developed - than her peers, and her dad was HATEFUL. She was a sweet, lovely person, in the gifted program! And her dad told her that nobody would ever like her and she&#039;d never have friends because she was a fat idiot. We were all completely horrified and assured her otherwise. (...She had a large group of friends that were telling her this. Her dad was DELUSIONAL.) Sadly, she moved to another state after sixth grade, and apparently had trouble making friends at her new school :/ I still worry about her sometimes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got any of that myself, thank god, though I think in recent years my mother has developed and eating disorder. She goes on Weight Watchers for a while (my dad has commented that it&#8217;s dieting for people with OCD, with all of that point counting), then stops and gains some weight back, probably because she basically eats nothing but ready meals. And junk. She has NO self-control around it, if it&#8217;s in the house it&#8217;ll disappear. (Which may be rubbing off on me, eek.) Food is about the only aspect of everyone else&#8217;s lives that she DOESN&#8217;T try to control.</p>
<p>But I remember in middle school one of my close friends, who was MAYBE a trifle plumper &#8211; probably just more developed &#8211; than her peers, and her dad was HATEFUL. She was a sweet, lovely person, in the gifted program! And her dad told her that nobody would ever like her and she&#8217;d never have friends because she was a fat idiot. We were all completely horrified and assured her otherwise. (&#8230;She had a large group of friends that were telling her this. Her dad was DELUSIONAL.) Sadly, she moved to another state after sixth grade, and apparently had trouble making friends at her new school :/ I still worry about her sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: But She&#8217;s FAT. (Or: It Doesn&#8217;t Matter and Her Weight&#8217;s None of Your Business.) &#171; Media Gadfly</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-103716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[But She&#8217;s FAT. (Or: It Doesn&#8217;t Matter and Her Weight&#8217;s None of Your Business.) &#171; Media Gadfly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] In any case, shaming teh fatties for being “unhealthy” doesn’t fucking help. If shame made people thin, there wouldn’t be a fat person in this country, trust me. I wish I could remember who said this, ’cause it’s one of my favorite quotes of all time: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In any case, shaming teh fatties for being “unhealthy” doesn’t fucking help. If shame made people thin, there wouldn’t be a fat person in this country, trust me. I wish I could remember who said this, ’cause it’s one of my favorite quotes of all time: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Astrid</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-102704</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Astrid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These were difficult to read. My mom put me on my first diet when I was 8. I have seen pictures of myself - I wasn&#039;t overweight. I&#039;m sure I was the only skim milk-drinking  third grader to know how many calories were in an apple. 

My dad never said one word about food or my body, but I do remember my mom&#039;s parents offering helpful hints like, &quot;why don&#039;t you eat cereal instead of waffles for breakfast?&quot; and 10-year old me thinking, &quot;I don&#039;t eat waffles!&quot; because I was allowed one cup of cereal, one-quarter cup of blueberries, and one-half cup of milk for breakfast. When I was in the sixth grade I was 5&#039;6&quot; and 111 lbs. I wasn&#039;t overweight. To contradict these messages about what I should be eating, the house was always full of junk food.

That was the start of my food obsession; I was a vegetarian for a while to restrict my intake and then I was diagnosed with bulimia in high school. I saw a therapist for 7 years, which shamed them, I&#039;m sure, since I was made to drive myself to the therapist and pay for her services with a part-time job. 

All of my dresses for high school dances had sleeves, because my mom bought them, and with my &quot;big arms&quot; I shouldn&#039;t wear anything sleeveless. 

I&#039;m almost 30 and I am terrified that if I have a child someday, I will do the same thing to her.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were difficult to read. My mom put me on my first diet when I was 8. I have seen pictures of myself &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t overweight. I&#8217;m sure I was the only skim milk-drinking  third grader to know how many calories were in an apple. </p>
<p>My dad never said one word about food or my body, but I do remember my mom&#8217;s parents offering helpful hints like, &#8220;why don&#8217;t you eat cereal instead of waffles for breakfast?&#8221; and 10-year old me thinking, &#8220;I don&#8217;t eat waffles!&#8221; because I was allowed one cup of cereal, one-quarter cup of blueberries, and one-half cup of milk for breakfast. When I was in the sixth grade I was 5&#8217;6&#8243; and 111 lbs. I wasn&#8217;t overweight. To contradict these messages about what I should be eating, the house was always full of junk food.</p>
<p>That was the start of my food obsession; I was a vegetarian for a while to restrict my intake and then I was diagnosed with bulimia in high school. I saw a therapist for 7 years, which shamed them, I&#8217;m sure, since I was made to drive myself to the therapist and pay for her services with a part-time job. </p>
<p>All of my dresses for high school dances had sleeves, because my mom bought them, and with my &#8220;big arms&#8221; I shouldn&#8217;t wear anything sleeveless. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost 30 and I am terrified that if I have a child someday, I will do the same thing to her.</p>
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		<title>By: techchick</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-89314</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, these stories are shocking.  I remember some decades ago my mom commenting on a friend of the family who was fat saying something negative.  I tried to call her on it and she said &quot;I just think she doesn&#039;t respect herself if she lets herself look like that&quot;.  She didn&#039;t overtly give me trouble about being chubby back then (in middle school) but did often tell me I was &quot;too busty&quot;.  I must have picked something up though because I did start being somewhat anorexic then - throwing out my lunches and skipping breakfast ( I got over it and have never dieted in my adult life.)  My mom  had actually been somewhat overweight at some point (I&#039;ve seen pictures) but in the &#039;80s she started jogging and has ever since and has been rail thin for quite some time (now in her late 60s).  However my boyfriend and I agree that she has some serious issues about controlling what people eat.  Whenever she has us over for a meal we often plan to get food before or after since she usually serves so little (for instance salmon steaks cut to less than 1/2 inch thick or for breakfast only english muffins (half per person) and a couple of spoons of egg .  She once told me that she couldn&#039;t travel with some particular companions anymore since they eat &quot;breakfast, lunch, AND dinner&quot;.  She often comes over to my house and says that she can&#039;t possibly have lunch since she had a cookie with her tea for breakfast and is terribly full still.  Crazy...  
I do also have a story about a gynocologist (skinny pointy nosed witch) who I asked when my period would come back after I stopped taking birth control (it had been a few months) and she told me that I wasn&#039;t having it because I was fat.  Totally not true - I got it a month later and was very regular after.    I think it&#039;s important to get these stories out there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, these stories are shocking.  I remember some decades ago my mom commenting on a friend of the family who was fat saying something negative.  I tried to call her on it and she said &#8220;I just think she doesn&#8217;t respect herself if she lets herself look like that&#8221;.  She didn&#8217;t overtly give me trouble about being chubby back then (in middle school) but did often tell me I was &#8220;too busty&#8221;.  I must have picked something up though because I did start being somewhat anorexic then &#8211; throwing out my lunches and skipping breakfast ( I got over it and have never dieted in my adult life.)  My mom  had actually been somewhat overweight at some point (I&#8217;ve seen pictures) but in the &#8217;80s she started jogging and has ever since and has been rail thin for quite some time (now in her late 60s).  However my boyfriend and I agree that she has some serious issues about controlling what people eat.  Whenever she has us over for a meal we often plan to get food before or after since she usually serves so little (for instance salmon steaks cut to less than 1/2 inch thick or for breakfast only english muffins (half per person) and a couple of spoons of egg .  She once told me that she couldn&#8217;t travel with some particular companions anymore since they eat &#8220;breakfast, lunch, AND dinner&#8221;.  She often comes over to my house and says that she can&#8217;t possibly have lunch since she had a cookie with her tea for breakfast and is terribly full still.  Crazy&#8230;<br />
I do also have a story about a gynocologist (skinny pointy nosed witch) who I asked when my period would come back after I stopped taking birth control (it had been a few months) and she told me that I wasn&#8217;t having it because I was fat.  Totally not true &#8211; I got it a month later and was very regular after.    I think it&#8217;s important to get these stories out there.</p>
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		<title>By: From the Moderation Queue&#8230; &#171; random babble&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-88976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[From the Moderation Queue&#8230; &#171; random babble&#8230;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Kate Harding: in any case, shaming teh fatties for being “unhealthy” doesn’t fucking help. If shame made people thin, there wouldn’t be a fat person in this country, trust me. I wish I could remember who said this, ’cause it’s one of my favorite quotes of all [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Kate Harding: in any case, shaming teh fatties for being “unhealthy” doesn’t fucking help. If shame made people thin, there wouldn’t be a fat person in this country, trust me. I wish I could remember who said this, ’cause it’s one of my favorite quotes of all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-86217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Sweet Jebus is this true. My mom made me go to Weight Watchers when I was freaking TWELVE.&lt;/i&gt;

Mine put me on WW at ten. By 18, I was anorexic and completely obsessed with how much food &#039;cost&#039; in points. 

It makes me incredibly, helplessly angry thinking about the fantastic childhood I could have had if I hadn&#039;t been obsessed about food and busy hating my chubby body. 

Interestingly, when I was 19 I had to have my gallbladder removed because it was full of stones and about to pop. My surgeon firmly believed from his vast experience that crash dieting contributed to gallstones, although he&#039;s never researched it. 

I can&#039;t wait to have a children myself so I can love them unconditionally no matter how they pop out!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sweet Jebus is this true. My mom made me go to Weight Watchers when I was freaking TWELVE.</i></p>
<p>Mine put me on WW at ten. By 18, I was anorexic and completely obsessed with how much food &#8216;cost&#8217; in points. </p>
<p>It makes me incredibly, helplessly angry thinking about the fantastic childhood I could have had if I hadn&#8217;t been obsessed about food and busy hating my chubby body. </p>
<p>Interestingly, when I was 19 I had to have my gallbladder removed because it was full of stones and about to pop. My surgeon firmly believed from his vast experience that crash dieting contributed to gallstones, although he&#8217;s never researched it. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to have a children myself so I can love them unconditionally no matter how they pop out!</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-85111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This seams to be the pattern...

 Our society (you can blame the media for this too) has put so much pressure on everyone to be thin it has caused parents to bully their kids about their weight, causing the kids to be stressed out, causing the release of cortisol, causing more weight gain, causing them to get teased more, causing more cortisol to be released... the pattern goes on and on and on.... 

and, it has been proven, that in other societies, where being fat is considered wonderful, those who are overweight do not have the health issues of those who are overweight in the western society... hmm... maybe because they aren&#039;t being pressured to be thin and being made to think they&#039;re ugly if they aren&#039;t... so, it can all be linked to one thing... STRESS.

It needs to stop...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seams to be the pattern&#8230;</p>
<p> Our society (you can blame the media for this too) has put so much pressure on everyone to be thin it has caused parents to bully their kids about their weight, causing the kids to be stressed out, causing the release of cortisol, causing more weight gain, causing them to get teased more, causing more cortisol to be released&#8230; the pattern goes on and on and on&#8230;. </p>
<p>and, it has been proven, that in other societies, where being fat is considered wonderful, those who are overweight do not have the health issues of those who are overweight in the western society&#8230; hmm&#8230; maybe because they aren&#8217;t being pressured to be thin and being made to think they&#8217;re ugly if they aren&#8217;t&#8230; so, it can all be linked to one thing&#8230; STRESS.</p>
<p>It needs to stop&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-85105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, Amber de Katt, your story just makes me writhe with anger and confusion. I&#039;ve heard some pretty bad stories about families being that way to the &quot;fat&quot; kid amongst them, but, you story really tops them all off. I&#039;m a big girl too and I thought I had been teased a lot (I went to a private school with  barbies and beauty queens...) but, wow. I am so sorry your family was that way. My grandma had a similar issue with my grandpa and took speed and even wore tight girdles during pregnancy because my grandpa detested her if she gained a pound. 

I hope that someday you&#039;ll be able to find peace with yourself and, quite possibly, your family :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Amber de Katt, your story just makes me writhe with anger and confusion. I&#8217;ve heard some pretty bad stories about families being that way to the &#8220;fat&#8221; kid amongst them, but, you story really tops them all off. I&#8217;m a big girl too and I thought I had been teased a lot (I went to a private school with  barbies and beauty queens&#8230;) but, wow. I am so sorry your family was that way. My grandma had a similar issue with my grandpa and took speed and even wore tight girdles during pregnancy because my grandpa detested her if she gained a pound. </p>
<p>I hope that someday you&#8217;ll be able to find peace with yourself and, quite possibly, your family :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/10/02/special-delivery-from-the-duh-truck/#comment-83465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These are heartbreaking stories to read.  I am proud to say I have never once given my kids (6 and 4) anything but love for their bodies - and I have never once put my own body down in front of them - ever.

I was not so fortunate growing up.  Mostly it is my mom&#039;s own behavior that makes me sad; always dieting, always putting off things she wants until she loses weight.  I know so many women like this - they don&#039;t &quot;deserve&quot; a short haircut until they lose fifty pounds (yeah - often some rather large amount of weight!) or they could &quot;never wear this or that&quot; because it&#039;s not flattering (remember, the job of clothes is to create the OPTICAL ILLUSION you are different than you really are!), blach blah.  I hate hearing that kind of talk but I am unsure of what to say.

With regards to my kids I have found myself hoping my children - especially my girl - stays thin so that life is easier on her.  WTF?  I am all done thinking that, as of reading many things on this great site.

Thank you to everyone who&#039;s shared!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are heartbreaking stories to read.  I am proud to say I have never once given my kids (6 and 4) anything but love for their bodies &#8211; and I have never once put my own body down in front of them &#8211; ever.</p>
<p>I was not so fortunate growing up.  Mostly it is my mom&#8217;s own behavior that makes me sad; always dieting, always putting off things she wants until she loses weight.  I know so many women like this &#8211; they don&#8217;t &#8220;deserve&#8221; a short haircut until they lose fifty pounds (yeah &#8211; often some rather large amount of weight!) or they could &#8220;never wear this or that&#8221; because it&#8217;s not flattering (remember, the job of clothes is to create the OPTICAL ILLUSION you are different than you really are!), blach blah.  I hate hearing that kind of talk but I am unsure of what to say.</p>
<p>With regards to my kids I have found myself hoping my children &#8211; especially my girl &#8211; stays thin so that life is easier on her.  WTF?  I am all done thinking that, as of reading many things on this great site.</p>
<p>Thank you to everyone who&#8217;s shared!</p>
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