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		<title>By: Rebekka</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3279</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebekka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, I think we can all agree that the article in question was clearly stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I think we can all agree that the article in question was clearly stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh, the cognitive disconnect (pregnancy, this time) &#171; Fat-o-matic</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oh, the cognitive disconnect (pregnancy, this time) &#171; Fat-o-matic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] There&#8217;s an as-ever fantabulous post over at Shapely Prose on some of the more recent WTF? moments from the media on fat and diets.  The willingness of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s an as-ever fantabulous post over at Shapely Prose on some of the more recent WTF? moments from the media on fat and diets.  The willingness of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kateharding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kateharding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rebekka, my point in quoting that article was to point out the contradiction in terms: &quot;Breastfeeding doesn&#039;t prevent obesity, but we recommend it as a strategy for preventing obesity.&quot; 

I&#039;m a fan of breastfeeding. I&#039;ve said so on this thread. You don&#039;t have to prove it prevents obesity to prove it&#039;s worth doing. And I don&#039;t really give a rat&#039;s ass if it prevents obesity, since I don&#039;t believe obesity is a terrible thing. What I care about is when people say flat out, &quot;We have no evidence, but we&#039;re going to keep saying it&#039;s true.&quot; That happens WAY too much with obesity research.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebekka, my point in quoting that article was to point out the contradiction in terms: &#8220;Breastfeeding doesn&#8217;t prevent obesity, but we recommend it as a strategy for preventing obesity.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fan of breastfeeding. I&#8217;ve said so on this thread. You don&#8217;t have to prove it prevents obesity to prove it&#8217;s worth doing. And I don&#8217;t really give a rat&#8217;s ass if it prevents obesity, since I don&#8217;t believe obesity is a terrible thing. What I care about is when people say flat out, &#8220;We have no evidence, but we&#8217;re going to keep saying it&#8217;s true.&#8221; That happens WAY too much with obesity research.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekka</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebekka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is *plenty* of evidence that breastfeeding has a preventative effect against obesity in later life -
see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=15867049&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=15314625&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=11065058&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and oh, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=10406746&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here as well&lt;/a&gt;. 

You take one article - which contradicts the majority of studies - and come to the conclusion that breastfeeding doesn’t protect against obesity? Seems to me you’re cherry-picking “evidence”.

Oh, and this &quot;Okay, so first of all, babies don’t even eat with their mouths in utero. Taste buds, my ass.&quot;

Actually, much as the researcher was clearly talking through their arse with the cheetos and white bread thing, foetuses do swallow amniotic fluid in utero, so they do &quot;eat with their mouths&quot; (or more accurately they &quot;drink with their mouths&quot;, what pregnant women eat *does* affect the taste of the amniotic fluid, and it does actually affect what babies like to eat later. See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for details. Ditto breastmilk - flavours change (and babies apparently like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=8108198&amp;ordinalpos=19&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;garlic&lt;/a&gt;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is *plenty* of evidence that breastfeeding has a preventative effect against obesity in later life -<br />
see <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=15867049&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=15314625&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=11065058&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus" rel="nofollow">here</a> and oh, <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=10406746&amp;ordinalpos=1&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus" rel="nofollow">here as well</a>. </p>
<p>You take one article &#8211; which contradicts the majority of studies &#8211; and come to the conclusion that breastfeeding doesn’t protect against obesity? Seems to me you’re cherry-picking “evidence”.</p>
<p>Oh, and this &#8220;Okay, so first of all, babies don’t even eat with their mouths in utero. Taste buds, my ass.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, much as the researcher was clearly talking through their arse with the cheetos and white bread thing, foetuses do swallow amniotic fluid in utero, so they do &#8220;eat with their mouths&#8221; (or more accurately they &#8220;drink with their mouths&#8221;, what pregnant women eat *does* affect the taste of the amniotic fluid, and it does actually affect what babies like to eat later. See <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez" rel="nofollow">here</a> for details. Ditto breastmilk &#8211; flavours change (and babies apparently like <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&amp;Cmd=ShowDetailView&amp;TermToSearch=8108198&amp;ordinalpos=19&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">garlic</a>).</p>
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		<title>By: Zombie Fat and Tastebud Transmission: WTP? at Shakesville</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zombie Fat and Tastebud Transmission: WTP? at Shakesville]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] for all my finger-pointing, I&#8217;m not above making my own dumb-assed mistakes. Yesterday at Shapely Prose, I linked to an article discussing why school obesity interventions are uniformly failing. I was in [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for all my finger-pointing, I&#8217;m not above making my own dumb-assed mistakes. Yesterday at Shapely Prose, I linked to an article discussing why school obesity interventions are uniformly failing. I was in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Varina</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3080</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Varina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;However, as breastfeeding has demonstrated benefits other than obesity prevention, breastfeeding promotion has been recommended as part of the strategy to prevent obesity, despite the lack of experimental evidence.”

So, this quote says breastfeeding will do good things for your children regardless of obesity, so keep breastfeeding children and it might prevent obesity.  Isn&#039;t it enough that breastfeeding dramatically strengthenes a child&#039;s immune system, brain development, and early growth?  Why do they feel the need to claim it prevents obesity. Incidentally, I was breastfed until I was 28 months and the only time I missed shool in elementary was when I got chicken pox which I got over in three days ; oh yeah, and I&#039;m fat.  My sister was breastfed for only six weeks and while thin, got every infection that came down the elementary school pipeline.  Now, she&#039;s not thin because she wasn&#039;t breastfed, but I do have a stronger immune system because I was.  How can any mother not think that&#039;s a good enough reason to breastfeed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, as breastfeeding has demonstrated benefits other than obesity prevention, breastfeeding promotion has been recommended as part of the strategy to prevent obesity, despite the lack of experimental evidence.”</p>
<p>So, this quote says breastfeeding will do good things for your children regardless of obesity, so keep breastfeeding children and it might prevent obesity.  Isn&#8217;t it enough that breastfeeding dramatically strengthenes a child&#8217;s immune system, brain development, and early growth?  Why do they feel the need to claim it prevents obesity. Incidentally, I was breastfed until I was 28 months and the only time I missed shool in elementary was when I got chicken pox which I got over in three days ; oh yeah, and I&#8217;m fat.  My sister was breastfed for only six weeks and while thin, got every infection that came down the elementary school pipeline.  Now, she&#8217;s not thin because she wasn&#8217;t breastfed, but I do have a stronger immune system because I was.  How can any mother not think that&#8217;s a good enough reason to breastfeed?</p>
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		<title>By: Elusis</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elusis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 04:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Does this moron also believe that if a pregnant woman sees someone who’s limping, her baby will be born with one leg shorter than the other?&lt;/i&gt;

Well, Oprah&#039;s favorite book at the moment tells its readers that looking at fat people will make them fat.  So it&#039;s only logical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does this moron also believe that if a pregnant woman sees someone who’s limping, her baby will be born with one leg shorter than the other?</i></p>
<p>Well, Oprah&#8217;s favorite book at the moment tells its readers that looking at fat people will make them fat.  So it&#8217;s only logical.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ_in_VA</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3066</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CJ_in_VA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 02:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried. Really. I ate all kinds of spicy foods when my kid was in utero and she won&#039;t touch something if it even smells like it has spice in it.  

I have always had eating issues and am still dealing with disordered eating. But I have to say I am thrilled to see my kid eat when she&#039;s hungry, stop when she&#039;s not, and eat what she wants to eat without guilt. Yeah, sometimes she wants broccoli and popcorn for dinner, but most of the time she&#039;s eating more balanced than I am. I breastfed her - not in hopes that she would be skinny but because it was something I believed in and enjoyed doing. 

And Sporty not menstruating? So not surprised.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried. Really. I ate all kinds of spicy foods when my kid was in utero and she won&#8217;t touch something if it even smells like it has spice in it.  </p>
<p>I have always had eating issues and am still dealing with disordered eating. But I have to say I am thrilled to see my kid eat when she&#8217;s hungry, stop when she&#8217;s not, and eat what she wants to eat without guilt. Yeah, sometimes she wants broccoli and popcorn for dinner, but most of the time she&#8217;s eating more balanced than I am. I breastfed her &#8211; not in hopes that she would be skinny but because it was something I believed in and enjoyed doing. </p>
<p>And Sporty not menstruating? So not surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Bitty</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bitty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the &quot;dieting makes you fatter&quot; article that seems quite intelligent otherwise comes this confusing sentence:

&quot;Perhaps we need to devise new kinds of calorie-limiting diets that don&#039;t make people feel deprived, because the hard fact is that they should never stop dieting.&quot; 

Dieting makes us fatter, but we should never stop dieting.

My head hurts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the &#8220;dieting makes you fatter&#8221; article that seems quite intelligent otherwise comes this confusing sentence:</p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps we need to devise new kinds of calorie-limiting diets that don&#8217;t make people feel deprived, because the hard fact is that they should never stop dieting.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dieting makes us fatter, but we should never stop dieting.</p>
<p>My head hurts.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadai</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/07/06/stunning-news/#comment-3064</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nadai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jess, yours was funnier.  :)  Cloven hooves - I can just picture the obstetrician.  &quot;Uh, Mrs. Johnson, did you visit any farms lately?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jess, yours was funnier.  :)  Cloven hooves &#8211; I can just picture the obstetrician.  &#8220;Uh, Mrs. Johnson, did you visit any farms lately?&#8221;</p>
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