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	<title>Comments on: Fat a Greater Threat than Drug Abuse, Smoking, or Alcohol</title>
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		<title>By: Stop Smoking Programs</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-32871</link>
		<dc:creator>Stop Smoking Programs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice post - thanx for sharing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice post &#8211; thanx for sharing</p>
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		<title>By: Don’t Drink, Don’t Smoke, What Do You Do? &#183; New York Articles</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-3355</link>
		<dc:creator>Don’t Drink, Don’t Smoke, What Do You Do? &#183; New York Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can&#8217;t stop thinking about this entry of Kate&#8217;s. A large percentage of 18-24 year olds believe that being fat is more unhealthy than drug abuse, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can&#8217;t stop thinking about this entry of Kate&#8217;s. A large percentage of 18-24 year olds believe that being fat is more unhealthy than drug abuse, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don’t Drink, Don’t Smoke, What Do You Do? &#183; Articles</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2823</link>
		<dc:creator>Don’t Drink, Don’t Smoke, What Do You Do? &#183; Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can&#8217;t stop thinking about this entry of Kate&#8217;s. A large percentage of 18-24 year olds believe that being fat is more unhealthy than drug abuse, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can&#8217;t stop thinking about this entry of Kate&#8217;s. A large percentage of 18-24 year olds believe that being fat is more unhealthy than drug abuse, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Big Fat Deal &#187; Don&#8217;t Drink, Don&#8217;t Smoke, What Do You Do?</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2822</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Fat Deal &#187; Don&#8217;t Drink, Don&#8217;t Smoke, What Do You Do?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 11:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can&#8217;t stop thinking about this entry of Kate&#8217;s. A large percentage of 18-24 year olds believe that being fat is more unhealthy than drug abuse, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can&#8217;t stop thinking about this entry of Kate&#8217;s. A large percentage of 18-24 year olds believe that being fat is more unhealthy than drug abuse, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rio Iriri</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2820</link>
		<dc:creator>Rio Iriri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Food as a crutch&quot;?!  How about &quot;as a necessary part of being alive&quot;?  Some people seem to think that eating at ALL is a bad thing to do, I swear.

Guess what?  I had dinner today.  AND I ENJOYED IT.  SO THERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Food as a crutch&#8221;?!  How about &#8220;as a necessary part of being alive&#8221;?  Some people seem to think that eating at ALL is a bad thing to do, I swear.</p>
<p>Guess what?  I had dinner today.  AND I ENJOYED IT.  SO THERE.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Thornton</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2798</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rotund @14 - you look like me.

No, seriously.  I&#039;m 5&#039;2&quot;, I have no idea what I weigh (the last time I weighed myself was over seven years ago, and I think I was about 100kg then, so about 220lb-ish) and I wear clothes which are Australian size 22 - 24 (generally 24).  But the general body shape is similar, and the shot of you in your underwear looks a lot like I do in mine.  I have a partner (of 10 years now) who tells me that my body type is &quot;boofuls&quot; (suits me!).

When I tell people I&#039;m size 24, I&#039;ve had them say I must be wrong (which generally earns them a Look - I have this Thing about being told I&#039;m wrong when I know I&#039;m Right).  I&#039;m told I carry my weight well, which presumably means I look thinner than I wind up weighing.  I just figure it&#039;s the result of generations of peasant ancestors - I store fat well, I lose it reluctantly, and I spent ten years dieting, which educated my metabolism that I&#039;m in an area with permanent famines (and knocked my thyroid out of whack to boot).  I&#039;m solid, I&#039;m strong for my size and lack of fitness, and I&#039;m gifted with a fair amount of endurance.  I figure I have the genes to carry the weight... and even if I don&#039;t, I&#039;ve had three grandparents survive past ninety.  I think I&#039;m likely to get a pretty good innings, provided I&#039;m careful doing things like crossing the street, and steering clear of weight loss centres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rotund @14 &#8211; you look like me.</p>
<p>No, seriously.  I&#8217;m 5&#8242;2&#8243;, I have no idea what I weigh (the last time I weighed myself was over seven years ago, and I think I was about 100kg then, so about 220lb-ish) and I wear clothes which are Australian size 22 &#8211; 24 (generally 24).  But the general body shape is similar, and the shot of you in your underwear looks a lot like I do in mine.  I have a partner (of 10 years now) who tells me that my body type is &#8220;boofuls&#8221; (suits me!).</p>
<p>When I tell people I&#8217;m size 24, I&#8217;ve had them say I must be wrong (which generally earns them a Look &#8211; I have this Thing about being told I&#8217;m wrong when I know I&#8217;m Right).  I&#8217;m told I carry my weight well, which presumably means I look thinner than I wind up weighing.  I just figure it&#8217;s the result of generations of peasant ancestors &#8211; I store fat well, I lose it reluctantly, and I spent ten years dieting, which educated my metabolism that I&#8217;m in an area with permanent famines (and knocked my thyroid out of whack to boot).  I&#8217;m solid, I&#8217;m strong for my size and lack of fitness, and I&#8217;m gifted with a fair amount of endurance.  I figure I have the genes to carry the weight&#8230; and even if I don&#8217;t, I&#8217;ve had three grandparents survive past ninety.  I think I&#8217;m likely to get a pretty good innings, provided I&#8217;m careful doing things like crossing the street, and steering clear of weight loss centres.</p>
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		<title>By: kateharding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2764</link>
		<dc:creator>kateharding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;By “movement” I was referring to size acceptance — interesting that you don’t see yourself as part of that&lt;/em&gt;
Oh, &lt;em&gt;zing&lt;/em&gt;, Rene!
Please.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>By “movement” I was referring to size acceptance — interesting that you don’t see yourself as part of that</em><br />
Oh, <em>zing</em>, Rene!<br />
Please.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2757</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;movement&quot; I was referring to size acceptance -- interesting that you don&#039;t see yourself as part of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;movement&#8221; I was referring to size acceptance &#8212; interesting that you don&#8217;t see yourself as part of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2756</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False analogy to say that &quot;tobacco companies profit...&quot; 

Big pharma profits off convincing people fat is dangerous.

Big pharma profits off convincing people second hand smoke is dangerous.

Follow the money and the money behind tobacco cessation interests -- they&#039;re the same ones selling weight loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>False analogy to say that &#8220;tobacco companies profit&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Big pharma profits off convincing people fat is dangerous.</p>
<p>Big pharma profits off convincing people second hand smoke is dangerous.</p>
<p>Follow the money and the money behind tobacco cessation interests &#8212; they&#8217;re the same ones selling weight loss.</p>
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		<title>By: kateharding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/27/fat-a-greater-threat-than-drug-abuse-smoking-or-alcohol/#comment-2742</link>
		<dc:creator>kateharding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rene, since I&#039;m not a part of your movement, I&#039;m not that concerned about embarrassing it. 

I do not find smokers repugnant; I am one. I find tobacco companies repugnant, and smoking kind of gross in theory, except for the part where I do it about 20 times a day.

As I said in response to you at Shakes, if even half of what we&#039;re told about smoking is true, the negative health effects are still orders of magnitude greater than the negative effects of fat. That was the point of this post. 

I&#039;m also aware that &quot;second-hand smoke is deadly&quot; is almost certainly overstating the matter -- hence my choice of &quot;not complete bullshit&quot; vs. &quot;not bullshit&quot; -- but when we&#039;re talking about hurting people I love, ANY risk is not really okay with me. Nor is triggering other people&#039;s asthma and allergies, making colds worse, etc., for that matter.

And really, for as much of a skeptic as I am, I have trouble buying that there&#039;s a parallel here in terms of reporting about the health risks. It&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;cui bono?&lt;/em&gt; thing. Tobacco companies profit if you convince people that smoking&#039;s not dangerous. Weight loss companies and big pharma profit if you convince people that fat IS dangerous. See the difference there?

I completely agree that the war on smoking is exactly where the war on fat is going, and I&#039;ve written about that before. It disturbs the hell out of me. From a civil liberties standpoint, things like cities banning smoking in cars scares me.

But it all comes down to this: I don&#039;t smoke because I feel like it. It is the OPPOSITE of a personal freedom issue. I smoke because I am an addict. I smoke because I feel like I &lt;em&gt;cannot stop. &lt;/em&gt; I smoke because when I try to quit, I end up crying in a heap on the floor, unable to function in my daily life. I smoke because I am, for all intents and purposes, &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; free to choose; when I try to quit, merely keeping my head above water becomes a full-time job. 

And there are big corporations profiting from my lack of personal freedom and bodily autonomy. That pisses me right off, and THAT is why I have no interest in your movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rene, since I&#8217;m not a part of your movement, I&#8217;m not that concerned about embarrassing it. </p>
<p>I do not find smokers repugnant; I am one. I find tobacco companies repugnant, and smoking kind of gross in theory, except for the part where I do it about 20 times a day.</p>
<p>As I said in response to you at Shakes, if even half of what we&#8217;re told about smoking is true, the negative health effects are still orders of magnitude greater than the negative effects of fat. That was the point of this post. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also aware that &#8220;second-hand smoke is deadly&#8221; is almost certainly overstating the matter &#8212; hence my choice of &#8220;not complete bullshit&#8221; vs. &#8220;not bullshit&#8221; &#8212; but when we&#8217;re talking about hurting people I love, ANY risk is not really okay with me. Nor is triggering other people&#8217;s asthma and allergies, making colds worse, etc., for that matter.</p>
<p>And really, for as much of a skeptic as I am, I have trouble buying that there&#8217;s a parallel here in terms of reporting about the health risks. It&#8217;s a <em>cui bono?</em> thing. Tobacco companies profit if you convince people that smoking&#8217;s not dangerous. Weight loss companies and big pharma profit if you convince people that fat IS dangerous. See the difference there?</p>
<p>I completely agree that the war on smoking is exactly where the war on fat is going, and I&#8217;ve written about that before. It disturbs the hell out of me. From a civil liberties standpoint, things like cities banning smoking in cars scares me.</p>
<p>But it all comes down to this: I don&#8217;t smoke because I feel like it. It is the OPPOSITE of a personal freedom issue. I smoke because I am an addict. I smoke because I feel like I <em>cannot stop. </em> I smoke because when I try to quit, I end up crying in a heap on the floor, unable to function in my daily life. I smoke because I am, for all intents and purposes, <em>not</em> free to choose; when I try to quit, merely keeping my head above water becomes a full-time job. </p>
<p>And there are big corporations profiting from my lack of personal freedom and bodily autonomy. That pisses me right off, and THAT is why I have no interest in your movement.</p>
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