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		<title>By: kateharding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/05/the-gospel-of-food/#comment-1927</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for bowing out respectfully, Tim.

And &lt;i&gt;Rethinking Thin&lt;/i&gt; has a lot to say about research coming out of the Harvard School of Public Health. It&#039;s interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bowing out respectfully, Tim.</p>
<p>And <i>Rethinking Thin</i> has a lot to say about research coming out of the Harvard School of Public Health. It&#8217;s interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/05/the-gospel-of-food/#comment-1925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hmm, no I was wondering what it was about. fair enough then...

Interesting article, but it&#039;s odd that they control for cardiorespiratory fitness, which I&#039;m not sure is a confounding variable as it&#039;s part of the causal pathway. It&#039;s also dealing with a specific population, those with heart failure. I haven&#039;t had time to review the paper properly yet though.

Here&#039;s an article rebutting some of the previous work on an obesity paradox: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/now/jun24/cdc.html

They also point out that the health risks are more than just mortality.

But with that I won&#039;t disturb you further. Cheers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm, no I was wondering what it was about. fair enough then&#8230;</p>
<p>Interesting article, but it&#8217;s odd that they control for cardiorespiratory fitness, which I&#8217;m not sure is a confounding variable as it&#8217;s part of the causal pathway. It&#8217;s also dealing with a specific population, those with heart failure. I haven&#8217;t had time to review the paper properly yet though.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an article rebutting some of the previous work on an obesity paradox: <a href="http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/now/jun24/cdc.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/now/jun24/cdc.html</a></p>
<p>They also point out that the health risks are more than just mortality.</p>
<p>But with that I won&#8217;t disturb you further. Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: kateharding</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/05/the-gospel-of-food/#comment-1921</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim, you do realize this is a fat acceptance blog, right?

As for cardiovascular disease and overweight, you might want to check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ahjonline.com/article/PIIS0002870306008271/abstract?browse_volume=153&amp;issue_key=TOC%40%40JOURNALSNOSUPP%40YMHJ%400153%400001&amp;issue_preview=no&amp;select1=no&amp;select1=no&amp;vol=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this article from the American Heart Journal&lt;/a&gt;, or &lt;a href=&quot;http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/01/obesity-paradox-3.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one that references it from Junkfood Science&lt;/a&gt;, or Paul Campos&#039;s &lt;i&gt;The Obesity Myth&lt;/i&gt;, which I recommend here about once a day, or Gina Kolata&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Rethinking Thin&lt;/i&gt;, which is brand new and says many of the same things. 

The &quot;obesity paradox&quot; is a pretty well known phenomenon, and there is a growing body of evidence that the people at risk because of their weight are the &lt;i&gt;extremely&lt;/i&gt; overweight and the underweight. The health risks for everyone in the middle of the bell curve are highly, highly debatable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you do realize this is a fat acceptance blog, right?</p>
<p>As for cardiovascular disease and overweight, you might want to check out <a href="http://www.ahjonline.com/article/PIIS0002870306008271/abstract?browse_volume=153&amp;issue_key=TOC%40%40JOURNALSNOSUPP%40YMHJ%400153%400001&amp;issue_preview=no&amp;select1=no&amp;select1=no&amp;vol=" rel="nofollow">this article from the American Heart Journal</a>, or <a href="http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/01/obesity-paradox-3.html" rel="nofollow">this one that references it from Junkfood Science</a>, or Paul Campos&#8217;s <i>The Obesity Myth</i>, which I recommend here about once a day, or Gina Kolata&#8217;s <i>Rethinking Thin</i>, which is brand new and says many of the same things. </p>
<p>The &#8220;obesity paradox&#8221; is a pretty well known phenomenon, and there is a growing body of evidence that the people at risk because of their weight are the <i>extremely</i> overweight and the underweight. The health risks for everyone in the middle of the bell curve are highly, highly debatable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/05/the-gospel-of-food/#comment-1920</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 01:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely right, he shouldn&#039;t argue that obesity isn&#039;t a health risk. The evidence is clearly there - though I guess this approach will sell him a few books. 

Cardiovascular disease (and others) is strongly associated with overweight, including when controlled for socio-economic status - lower SEC groups get a double whammy of tending to be less healthy and also having less cash to do anything about it. It&#039;s crap. This does not get the rest of us off the hook.

I&#039;m afraid I&#039;ve only read reviews of his book, but it&#039;s a mixture of sensible advice - only be afraid of stuff that&#039;s actually a threat - and than some really barking stuff, like the obesity/mortality/SEC thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely right, he shouldn&#8217;t argue that obesity isn&#8217;t a health risk. The evidence is clearly there &#8211; though I guess this approach will sell him a few books. </p>
<p>Cardiovascular disease (and others) is strongly associated with overweight, including when controlled for socio-economic status &#8211; lower SEC groups get a double whammy of tending to be less healthy and also having less cash to do anything about it. It&#8217;s crap. This does not get the rest of us off the hook.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;ve only read reviews of his book, but it&#8217;s a mixture of sensible advice &#8211; only be afraid of stuff that&#8217;s actually a threat &#8211; and than some really barking stuff, like the obesity/mortality/SEC thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Meowzer</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/06/05/the-gospel-of-food/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meowzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed this book very much.  I was a bit disappointed when I read an interview with Glassner in the LA Times following the book&#039;s publication in which he said, &quot;I&#039;m not among those who argue that obesity is not a health danger.&quot; Link:  http://www.greatertalent.com/GTNnews.php?articleId=194

He has, however, thoroughly poo-poohed dieting as any kind of &quot;solution,&quot; and has stated that multiple attempts at weight loss tend to make people fatter.  Link:  http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-oe-glassner2jan02,1,7743860.story?coll=la-headlines-health&amp;ctrack=1&amp;cset=true

I suppose that when it comes to the MSM we have to take what we can get...le sigh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this book very much.  I was a bit disappointed when I read an interview with Glassner in the LA Times following the book&#8217;s publication in which he said, &#8220;I&#8217;m not among those who argue that obesity is not a health danger.&#8221; Link:  <a href="http://www.greatertalent.com/GTNnews.php?articleId=194" rel="nofollow">http://www.greatertalent.com/GTNnews.php?articleId=194</a></p>
<p>He has, however, thoroughly poo-poohed dieting as any kind of &#8220;solution,&#8221; and has stated that multiple attempts at weight loss tend to make people fatter.  Link:  <a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-oe-glassner2jan02,1,7743860.story?coll=la-headlines-health&#038;ctrack=1&#038;cset=true" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-oe-glassner2jan02,1,7743860.story?coll=la-headlines-health&#038;ctrack=1&#038;cset=true</a></p>
<p>I suppose that when it comes to the MSM we have to take what we can get&#8230;le sigh.</p>
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