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	<title>Comments on: Why I Haven&#8217;t Addressed the Collarbone Thing</title>
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		<title>By: &#8220;I&#8217;m going to steal your haircut, and then YOUR MAN. Fear meeee.&#8221; &#171; Numbered Confessions</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/05/24/why-i-havent-addressed-the-collarbone-thing/#comment-110626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#8220;I&#8217;m going to steal your haircut, and then YOUR MAN. Fear meeee.&#8221; &#171; Numbered Confessions]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] make me any more &#8220;real&#8221; than you. ENOUGH already with all this real woman garbage. We’re all real women, for &#8212;-’s sake — the thin ones, the pale ones, the dark ones, the hairy ones, the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] make me any more &#8220;real&#8221; than you. ENOUGH already with all this real woman garbage. We’re all real women, for &#8212;-’s sake — the thin ones, the pale ones, the dark ones, the hairy ones, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/05/24/why-i-havent-addressed-the-collarbone-thing/#comment-1782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RoseCampion - I know, it&#039;s awful when people feel really badly about their bodies. You just want to give them a self-esteem pill or a self-acceptance tonic or something. However, I don&#039;t really think talking about it in this way - even skinny people are self-conscious, your body is all the rage, I can only feel okay because I know every other woman hates the way she looks, etc. - really helps out much. The point is to end the tyranny of fitting your body into a fad, or into any proportion prescribed by what magazines say we&#039;re supposed to look like. I guess you just don&#039;t have that conversation, you know? You accept the compliment, if she even gave you one. That sounds suspiciously like someone fishing for a compliment for herself.

By the way - it&#039;s not a given that skinny people have jutting collarbones any more than it is a given that fat people&#039;s clavicles are subsumed by fat. Depends an awful lot on the bones themselves, not just on your padding. This stuff is just a new way of forcing yet another worry on us. Let&#039;s throw this one onto the pile along with labioplasty and feminine deodorant spray.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoseCampion &#8211; I know, it&#8217;s awful when people feel really badly about their bodies. You just want to give them a self-esteem pill or a self-acceptance tonic or something. However, I don&#8217;t really think talking about it in this way &#8211; even skinny people are self-conscious, your body is all the rage, I can only feel okay because I know every other woman hates the way she looks, etc. &#8211; really helps out much. The point is to end the tyranny of fitting your body into a fad, or into any proportion prescribed by what magazines say we&#8217;re supposed to look like. I guess you just don&#8217;t have that conversation, you know? You accept the compliment, if she even gave you one. That sounds suspiciously like someone fishing for a compliment for herself.</p>
<p>By the way &#8211; it&#8217;s not a given that skinny people have jutting collarbones any more than it is a given that fat people&#8217;s clavicles are subsumed by fat. Depends an awful lot on the bones themselves, not just on your padding. This stuff is just a new way of forcing yet another worry on us. Let&#8217;s throw this one onto the pile along with labioplasty and feminine deodorant spray.</p>
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		<title>By: blooky</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/05/24/why-i-havent-addressed-the-collarbone-thing/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blooky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 16:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like the look, either.  But don&#039;t blame us heterosexual guys -- after all, the fashion industry is run by women and gay men, for whom the pubescent boy is the ultimate sex symbol.

Most straight guys aren&#039;t into the whole fat thing, but nor are they particularly attracted by concentration camp chic.  And they&#039;re not looking at your clavicles, ladies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the look, either.  But don&#8217;t blame us heterosexual guys &#8212; after all, the fashion industry is run by women and gay men, for whom the pubescent boy is the ultimate sex symbol.</p>
<p>Most straight guys aren&#8217;t into the whole fat thing, but nor are they particularly attracted by concentration camp chic.  And they&#8217;re not looking at your clavicles, ladies.</p>
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		<title>By: Earthencircle</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/05/24/why-i-havent-addressed-the-collarbone-thing/#comment-1712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Earthencircle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 01:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday about the whole collarbone thing.  Both of us being in the Social Work arena agreed that it doesn&#039;t matter what body size one is, obviously most are not happy or there would be no such thing as the word &#039;eating disorder&#039;.  At least not as we know it.  We mused on the thought of what would we do with our time and money (as a society) if we didn&#039;t have the body image focus?  I know that is nothing new for anyone to do, but it is the never ending circle once you &#039;step on&#039; and start the discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday about the whole collarbone thing.  Both of us being in the Social Work arena agreed that it doesn&#8217;t matter what body size one is, obviously most are not happy or there would be no such thing as the word &#8216;eating disorder&#8217;.  At least not as we know it.  We mused on the thought of what would we do with our time and money (as a society) if we didn&#8217;t have the body image focus?  I know that is nothing new for anyone to do, but it is the never ending circle once you &#8216;step on&#8217; and start the discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: RoseCampion</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/05/24/why-i-havent-addressed-the-collarbone-thing/#comment-1710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RoseCampion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 20:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think its one of the things that has helped me make peace with my body, the knowledge that almost no woman out there is happy with her body, no matter how thin.

I was wearing this strapless dress from Torrid to work the other day (with a cardigan so I wasn&#039;t totally bare and inappropriate for work).  My naturally thin co-worker told me that she really liked my dress but she&#039;d never even consider wearing a strapless because her upper chest and collarbone area were too thin and bony. I was like, but that&#039;s all the rage these days. She said that she knew it was but that she still didn&#039;t like that part of herself. It just struck me as weird that I, a woman who easily weighs 120 pounds more than my coworker, likes my body more than the woman who was so close to society&#039;s ideal. 

I felt kind of sad for her a little and wished there was something I could have told her that would make her feel that she could wear a cute strapless dress if that&#039;s what she wanted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its one of the things that has helped me make peace with my body, the knowledge that almost no woman out there is happy with her body, no matter how thin.</p>
<p>I was wearing this strapless dress from Torrid to work the other day (with a cardigan so I wasn&#8217;t totally bare and inappropriate for work).  My naturally thin co-worker told me that she really liked my dress but she&#8217;d never even consider wearing a strapless because her upper chest and collarbone area were too thin and bony. I was like, but that&#8217;s all the rage these days. She said that she knew it was but that she still didn&#8217;t like that part of herself. It just struck me as weird that I, a woman who easily weighs 120 pounds more than my coworker, likes my body more than the woman who was so close to society&#8217;s ideal. </p>
<p>I felt kind of sad for her a little and wished there was something I could have told her that would make her feel that she could wear a cute strapless dress if that&#8217;s what she wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: kateharding</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kateharding]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 19:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s working now. Just wasn&#039;t when I posted. Sorry to panic you!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s working now. Just wasn&#8217;t when I posted. Sorry to panic you!</p>
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		<title>By: The Rotund</title>
		<link>http://kateharding.net/2007/05/24/why-i-havent-addressed-the-collarbone-thing/#comment-1705</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Rotund]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 18:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh noes, my site isn&#039;t working for you? It seems to be up for me, but now I am worried. Let me know if it still doesn&#039;t work for you, please?

The collarbone thing.... Yeah. It&#039;s very much a response to fashion. Current fashions make people look bigger and, you know, heaven forbid we not look as small as possible!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh noes, my site isn&#8217;t working for you? It seems to be up for me, but now I am worried. Let me know if it still doesn&#8217;t work for you, please?</p>
<p>The collarbone thing&#8230;. Yeah. It&#8217;s very much a response to fashion. Current fashions make people look bigger and, you know, heaven forbid we not look as small as possible!</p>
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